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Edge #309 - Super Mario Odyssey
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ComradeZero
Member
Man. SEGA really fucked up. Glad I didn't pick it up.
WhatWeLeftBehind
Member
Amazing to see how one little comment of someone loving some Switch games gets taken so personal by people here.
Guys, you don't have to take someone else's love for something as an insult. It's ok, he likes different things then you. /condescension.
Guys, you don't have to take someone else's love for something as an insult. It's ok, he likes different things then you. /condescension.
Don't know, I'm not that fond of the magazine personally.
Ah yes, how could I forget critical darling, global phenomenon and game of the year candidate...
...Arms.
Bye Persona 5. Bye Red Dead Redemption 2. Hello...
...Arms.
Persona 5 is superb, red dead isn't even coming out this year, and arms is great. No need to be rude they aren't even in the same categories.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Valkyria... SMH.
Every game competes in the same category when it comes to GOTY. Forgot that RDR2 was delayed, but there are still at least 20 games coming this year more likely to win than Arms.
That said I'm coming from the perspective of where critical consensus and GAF voting will land, in which case Arms will not be close to a contender, but it if it's your personal fav that's cool of course.
Interested in what e3 previews they wrote about, hopefully there's some cool smaller stuff I might have missed.
If you want to make a thread for a different magazine no one is stopping you
If you want to make a thread for a different magazine no one is stopping you
Hellshadow
Member
How many gaming magazines are even left?
ARMS has done really well among the respected outlets. Would also bet cash money on it landing on EDGE's GotY list over Persona 5.
EDGE, gamesTM, Official PlayStation, Official Xbox, Games Master, PC Gamer, Retro Gamer and seemingly about 5 different magazines dedicated to Minecraft.
It's done respectably, but I don't know that "look at the reviews" is the best way to stand up for the game being the best game of the year, given that reviews are fairly middle of the road. No idea about the personal preferences of writer's for Edge magazine, but I don't doubt there are people whose opinions differ from the norm.
Anyways this is all off topic so I'll leave it at that
I wouldn't exactly say that. Only game I have on Switch so far is mk8d. I'm waiting for more games.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Haha, no way!!
Spoken like a true dom.
I hope this is not Switch firing on all cylinders. Would be a bit disappointing to only get 3 games per year on it... though it would save me some money I guess, lol.
3 GOTYs per year is fine.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Man...
I remember when there used to be at least 6 or 7 seperate playstation mags available let alone all the others.
Mass Appeal
Member
3 games ?
BOTW, Marko Kart, Arms, Splatoon 2, Mario Oddessey, Mario + Rabbids, Xenoblade 2, Pokken Tournament, Rocket League, and Nba2k18. I am sure I missed some too but that's way more then 3 games...
In what world are arms and Splatoon 2 goty lol
Especially considering this has been the best year for games in what feels like forever.
Splatoon 2 in Japan probably. Sorry DQXI.
Mass Appeal
Member
If all 3 games are legit goty level classics I will certainly be okay with it, but that's unlikely to be the case, just because of how difficult it is to produce masterpiece level games consistently.
At least the Official PlayStation mag is now top quality (god, it used to be dreadful some years), no dedicated Nintendo magazine is the saddest absence.
Edge's brilliant articles imo keep in relevant in an online age where other publications feel pointless. Couple that with their well written reviews and scores that are usually lower than elsewhere and you have a magazine with a unique level of prestige.
Zelda clearly is, Mario likely will be. Only question is up the 3rd (Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2).
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Yeah, I have the last official nintendo mag and the unofficial one too.
Thing is, as we know, they are so out of date with the advent of the internet, its not a no shit sherlock comment either.
I mean Edge are doing their E3 review in this issue for example, everyone knows what was at E3 by now.
Thing is, as we know, they are so out of date with the advent of the internet, its not a no shit sherlock comment either.
I mean Edge are doing their E3 review in this issue for example, everyone knows what was at E3 by now.
Acquiescence
Member
Yeah, when it comes to GOTY talk, I don't think ARMS is going to get much of a look in. With Edge it will since they gave it a 9, but in general? Nah. Especially not in a year like 2017.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
True, haven't even considered an Arms purchase.
Splatoon got only 2 GOTYs in 2015
More of the same experience won't get way more than that imo.
ARMS will be be the weakest candidate in few Nintendo enthusiast sites and maybe at #5 from EDGE.
Skittzo0413
Member
Interesting, reading that at first made it sound like it would be a point of criticism but it seems they like that decision. This is going to be another game about discovery it seems, so hopefully they don't show too much before it releases.
CharminUltra
Member
I've never read EDGE, but I enjoy the covers. They're often very lovely.
Messofanego
Banned
You guys treat GOTYs with as much bureaucratic overanalysis as a general election, jeez.
Yeah, this year is looking good. The question is if they will repeat year after year. At some point the big games in a year will be Pikmin 4, Animal Crossing and Donkey Kong. Now those are all games that I'm actually quite interested in playing, but others would look at it and be very disappointed and find it to be a dead year.
This is the problem that Nintendo tends to have. If you want to play every game they make, you'll be okay. But many people don't want to just play every game they make, they would like some options to choose from. I don't care about multiplayer games, so Switch is basically stored away for me until Mario.
It's video game enthusiast forum.
Why would it indicate a point of criticsm? That's like saying power-ups are a criticsm towards the Galaxy and 3D games. They just never appeared as organically as they did in Odyssey.
Mind that Splatoon 2 being "more of the same" is going to be balanced out by it not being as content anemic as the first one, which is where the first game lost points from a lot of outlets.
Well next year has Metroid, Pokemon and Fire Emblem among it's potentials already. We'll have to see year to year but Nintendo pretty consistently puts out a ton of software annually, in nearly every genre, and now that's being consolidated on a single platform with Switch.
3rd parties are relatively light this year but I'd also expect that to change in the future the way Switch is selling. I'm not too worried about future software selection on the system.
Messofanego
Banned
So that's why it has to be boring? Why do you only care about the general consensus of GOTY winners? Whenever anyone is talking GOTY contenders, they usually mean their personal picks. Not this tactical voting thing like an election where all the lists will look the same.
HueyFreeman
Banned
That nex machina score is dead on. Bravo to Housemarque.
Also Why has this thread become a GOTY discussion?
Also Why has this thread become a GOTY discussion?
I hope so, but I've owned every Nintendo console other than NES and that has basically never been the case. I know Switch is supposed to be different, but I'm still going to have to see it to believe it. The idea of significant 3rd party support basically feels like a wild fantasy rather than a looming reality.
I actually care much more about individual choices rather than the consensus. However in some conversational contexts, such as when talking about a system's place in the industry, the consensus does matter.
Because Switch.
Yeah, Nex Machina is great. Awesome to see it recognized.
And I guess just because it's an open thread more or less, there's not really a specific topic to it.
Council Pop
Member
Because it's the only magazine of its kinda really, a properly grown up games magazine which has a lot of focus on games design and industry issues. People focus on the reviews because its a trusted magazine, but we all know that it's the big six page spreads about some interesting independent developer that we'll be enjoying the most when we pick up the magazine.
Also- Edge is British, and focuses on UK devs and industry a lot, which gets lost in the US dominated online world.
But Edge is just generally the best IMO. It's like for music you read The Wire, for film you read Sight and Sound, for games you read Edge.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Well it's about the recent edge, with no mention of GOTY.
Meanwhile the sadness of Sega guiding such a promising series as Valkyria Chronicles into oblivion is being largely overlooked 😔
You can have significant 3rd party support without it being dominant 3rd party support. Sega consoles and Nintendo handhelds are pretty good historical examples of that. Even some Nintendo consoles after they hit their rut (post-SNES, not really NES as you said) varied to some degree with Gamecube and Wii still getting pretty decent 3rd party support in spite of the circumstances against them.
Of course at this point I've lost sight of the goalposts. Mario Odyssey GOTY potential -> Switch firing on all cylinders this year -> Switch firing on all cylinders every year -> Switch getting significant 3rd party support. Where would you like to go next?
Skittzo0413
Member
I just mean the way it's written makes it seem like they were going to criticize the reliance on the capture mechanic, but they seem to recognize that it allows for much more creative level design. Which is a good thing.
Steve McQueen
Member
Congratz, but foreign delivery sucks though
I've contacted EDGE myself why myfavoritemagazines.co.uk makes such a mess of this. It is a widespread and ongoing problem according to EDGE.They're not joking. I haven't received the subscribers editions of EDGE 304/305/306/307/308 and probably won't get 309 either. I did get the replacements copies after contacting them, but for a long time subsciber and magazines collector ( almost 14 years EDGE sub ) this is a fucking nightmare.
I love reading EDGE, but this is getting on my nerves.
DS is probably the one console where I was quite happy with 3rd party support. In general I buy Nintendo consoles fully aware I'll only get a couple games a year and it's more of a supplement to PlayStation. But it still kind of nags at you, like... ack, what if Nintendo could do a better job at sustaining these.
Conversation isn't a competition, I'm not trying to score goals here.
Even without 1st party support I'd say most Nintendo platforms were worth owning. The only ones that weren't were probably N64 and Wii U. And Pokemon Mini if that counts. I guess we can get into the weeds on what "significant" actually means but it's not mutually exclusive with "supplemental" either.DS is probably the one console where I was quite happy with 3rd party support. In general I buy Nintendo consoles fully aware I'll only get a couple games a year and it's more of a supplement to PlayStation. But it still kind of nags at you, like... ack, what if Nintendo could do a better job at sustaining these.
Conversation isn't a competition, I'm not trying to score goals here.