Spyder_Monkey
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That's a good list. I mean some games are higher than they should but overall it's the top 10 is solid.
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Edge Magazine: The 100 Greatest Videogames 2017 Edition
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TheSkullPrince
Member
Not having Super Mario Bros. 3 or Super Mario Wold as #1 is an automatic fail.
GTA V in the top 3? LOL
GTA V in the top 3? LOL
Poimandres
Member
Actually, looking at the 2015 list, it's very obvious they just used that as a base chucked a couple of new things in and called it a day.
The core of the list is very much the same. Really lazy, honestly.
The explains bizarre additions like Far Cry 4 (because it was new back then)
Jawbreaker
Member
I guess it was restricted to numbered sequels, but it's unreasoned given that there are non-numbered games in various series' that have more in common than, say, Final Fantasy XII and Final Fantasy VI. If their goal was to avoid including similar titles in a series, the criteria used to derive these results utterly failed them.
SM3DW at 48
Yeahyuhhz
Anyway, this "100 best games" format just creates too much argument. It squishes everything into a numbered qualitative and then says that number 24, which may be a platformed, is objectively better than 29, which is a RTS.
I prefer the "if you can only play 100 games, these are the ones you should choose" kinda thing. Doesn't pit games against each other and highlights the diversity of the medium.
Yeahyuhhz
Anyway, this "100 best games" format just creates too much argument. It squishes everything into a numbered qualitative and then says that number 24, which may be a platformed, is objectively better than 29, which is a RTS.
I prefer the "if you can only play 100 games, these are the ones you should choose" kinda thing. Doesn't pit games against each other and highlights the diversity of the medium.
OrbitalBeard
Member
BotW, Dark Souls, and Bloodborne in the top 5. I approve.
Wet Bloodfart
Banned
These threads are so stupid. They make these lists specifically for traffic, even though theyre generally correct. Stop shitting your pants about placement of certain games.
So, is Justin or Taylor the #1 artist ever?
Nintendo's Witch
Member
Demon's Souls it's way too low.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I don't think I can be bothered to get outraged over this like I have with similar lists in the past. I'd say it leans a but too heavily on modern games and with some classics missing, but overall it's a solid list. Although Far Cry 4 being there at all is just odd.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
I can't wait for us to look back five years from now and wonder what the fuck were we thinking with all of this unwarranted BotW praise. What a joke.
Enzo88
Member
Good luck
Do you have your clock set yet?
Dark Cloud
Member
You'll have that dream in 5 years.
Theognosis
Member
Shit list.
There's no:
Pokemon
Starcraft: Brood War
Daytona USA
Rocket League
Virtua Fighter 2
Virtual On
NBA 2K series
Winning Eleven / Pro Evolution Soccer
Falcon 4.0
Flight Simulator X
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
The Ancient Art of War
Archon
Yar's Revenge
Sonic 2
Shinobi
Virtua Cop
Wii Sports
Dragonforce
Odin Sphere
Guitar Hero
Astroboy: Omega Factor
There's no:
Pokemon
Starcraft: Brood War
Daytona USA
Rocket League
Virtua Fighter 2
Virtual On
NBA 2K series
Winning Eleven / Pro Evolution Soccer
Falcon 4.0
Flight Simulator X
Command & Conquer: Red Alert
The Ancient Art of War
Archon
Yar's Revenge
Sonic 2
Shinobi
Virtua Cop
Wii Sports
Dragonforce
Odin Sphere
Guitar Hero
Astroboy: Omega Factor
Mr.Deadshot
Member
Terrible list. So many amazing games missing.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Awwww having a hard time accepting the universal praise for a game you don't love?
NinjaCoachZ
Member
It still blows my mind just how mad BOTW makes people.
Bingo. Saves so much undue anxiety if people started viewing these lists this way.
8-Bit Sunset
Banned
*sees Bloodbourne higher than Half Life 2*
ZBOTW no.1...!??
ZBOTW no.1...!??
I'll just speak for myself when I say, I ain't shitting my pants over it. I ain't even mad. It's more so a case of you see something really disgusting, like someone shits in a condom and leaves it on the bathroom floor at a fast food restaurant and your reaction is "EEEUGH, JESUS WHY WOULD YOU-". That sort of gross.
And let's be real, this shit ain't correct. Ain't even generally correct.
Bruv, you can take out the rankings all you want. But if I see Far Cry 4 or Super Hexagon there, imma (as our friend above put it) shit my pants regardless.
That's like me saying Bleed is a top 100 game. You ever heard of Bleed? Yeah, you haven't. And honestly? You don't want to. You know why? Because who cares about Bleed. Not even a bad game, it's just who cares about it (no one does if you really needed the question answered, by yours truly).
It was never in my top 5, but it has not lost value with age if that's what you're asking. Would be in my top 30 probably.
They got this right
MGSV has infinitely better gameplay than 2. 2 is a "neater" package but that doesn't make up for the enormous gameplay discrepancy.
Yes, many people consider it to be one of the greatest and it's always ranked very high (top 5 high) on such lists made by "professional" critics.
I would also put it in my top 5, even top 3.
Why? It's a game that resonated deeply with a lot of people. How could you fault anyone for revering a game that stimulates such a profound personal reaction?
I don't get the "Actually you only think you like this game, trust me I'm smarter than you and you really hate it" posts
What? No one in the world thinks Bieber is better than Mozart except for teen girls. New games are frequently better than old games, while that is not the case with music. It's a nonsensical comparison.
Besides, you just made the argument that WoW should be on the list simply because it's popular. In that case of course Bieber would be on the music list as well along with Nickleback and Adele.
Yes, it's completely unbelievable that a game dozens of critics rated as one of the best ever made should sit at the top of a list written by critics.*sees Bloodbourne higher than Half Life 2*
ZBOTW no.1...!??
On balance, I think the list is best looked at as 'if you were getting into the hobby right now, here's an accessible top 100 that's worth looking at'.
345triangle
Member
i personally dislike most of the top 10 but you could make a great case for every single game, which makes it a good list. definitely here for BotW at #1, too.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I can almost taste the tears in this thread.
Storm Brewer
Neo Member
Man I get the focus on games that are playable today, but there's an odd lack of pc classics in general.
None of:
Fallout (even the modern ones)
Deus Ex (ditto)
Planescape
Warcraft (even world of!)
Baldur's gate 2
System shock 2 (but we got bioshock?)
Any classic adventure game from LucasArts
Vampire the masquerade
Thief 1 or 2
I've played a good chunk of those in the last two years and they're still fantastic, even by today's standards (or in some cases especially by today's standards...)
Then if I look at the top 50, the RPGs we have are
Souls series
Skyrim
Fire emblem fates
Horizon
And debatably breath of the wild?
No mention of classics that are still perfectly playable today like chrono trigger or even paper mario, it's kinda blowing my mind.
Still a decent list overall, but definitely feels like there are genre/platform gaps.
Edit: ironically I forgot to mention half-life 2, which honestly having played somewhat recently didn't really grab me, and falls prey to the seinfield effect a lot, which kinda goes aganist the point of their list no?
None of:
Fallout (even the modern ones)
Deus Ex (ditto)
Planescape
Warcraft (even world of!)
Baldur's gate 2
System shock 2 (but we got bioshock?)
Any classic adventure game from LucasArts
Vampire the masquerade
Thief 1 or 2
I've played a good chunk of those in the last two years and they're still fantastic, even by today's standards (or in some cases especially by today's standards...)
Then if I look at the top 50, the RPGs we have are
Souls series
Skyrim
Fire emblem fates
Horizon
And debatably breath of the wild?
No mention of classics that are still perfectly playable today like chrono trigger or even paper mario, it's kinda blowing my mind.
Still a decent list overall, but definitely feels like there are genre/platform gaps.
Edit: ironically I forgot to mention half-life 2, which honestly having played somewhat recently didn't really grab me, and falls prey to the seinfield effect a lot, which kinda goes aganist the point of their list no?
I think it's a great list. I'd personally switch around #1 and #2, but I've been known to be pretty resistant to change, so who knows.
Also, if I were to make an all time list, it wouldn't include anything less than five years old, but I think that doing what they've done is pretty ballsy and admirable. Video games are, after all, a rapidly changing art form.
Also, if I were to make an all time list, it wouldn't include anything less than five years old, but I think that doing what they've done is pretty ballsy and admirable. Video games are, after all, a rapidly changing art form.
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Deleted member 57681
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Already? Did they at least write new articles for the games that were featured in the last one? In 2015 I was super disappointed because they just copy pasted some of the texts from vol.1 to vol.2...
As someone who has no love for open world games and is partway through BotW right now, I'm honestly shocked at how good it is. Like I can't even understand it.
A list of fantastic games.
I respect the method in regards to series entries.
But as a result of that, I feel like Edge needs someone on the team to point out things like Fire Emblem Awakening is markedly better than Fates.
And I don't know if there's an argument that the first Advance Wars is better than 2 or Dual Strike.
Won't find any arguments from me about BOTW being number 1.
I respect the method in regards to series entries.
But as a result of that, I feel like Edge needs someone on the team to point out things like Fire Emblem Awakening is markedly better than Fates.
And I don't know if there's an argument that the first Advance Wars is better than 2 or Dual Strike.
Won't find any arguments from me about BOTW being number 1.
Sounds about right. TW3 is better than New Vegas.
My only major qualm with it was its story, but other than that, yea, that was an excellent ass game.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
It's a deeply flawed game that will not stand the test of time as other open world games and Zelda sequels address the glaring issues with dungeons, story, rewards, progression/pacing, and difficulty. It's the same reason a game like the original Animal Crossing will never be remembered as subsequent sequels vastly improve on the formula with much more meaningful features and substance despite how novel it was at the time. The game will forever be pigeon holed as a less than stellar open world game that lags behinds it's successors but is so far removed from its predecessors that original fans won't care either.
