GamingIsDead
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That's what i'm thinking. Ps3 already has a software emulator built in for ps2 classics. If you have a modded ps3 you cant convert any ps2 game to play on it and the compatibility is actually pretty decent.
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Eurogamer: PS1/PS2 games heading to PlayStation 4
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That's what i'm thinking. Ps3 already has a software emulator built in for ps2 classics. If you have a modded ps3 you cant convert any ps2 game to play on it and the compatibility is actually pretty decent.
Brainiac 8
Member
I hope that's the case. I have a nice PS1 collection on my PS3.
I never did buy anything really for PS2 on it...except Rygar because I never played it when it came out on the PS2. It was a bad purchase.
If this is true, this is basically what I expected to happen, at least for PS1 games. I expected PS1 emulation and hoped for PS2 emulation, but never believed Sony would go for PCX2-style resolution improvements. Even if true, the resolution upgrades probably won't happen for every game.
Sony will probably just make the current list of PSOne and PS2 classics available on PSN on PS4. If you've already bought some you'll probably be able to re-download them at no charge (which is what Sony did on the Vita). The real remaining question is if Sony plans to use this emulation to let you play old physical discs. That's how they let you use PS1 discs on PS3, and I think hackers found out unlocked PS3 firmware could run PS2 discs through emulation.
For Okami I'd rather they just take the PS3 port and bring it over to PS4. The PS3 version of Okami already renders in 4K (and then downsamples to 1080p). I imagine a PS4 port would just display at 4K.
Sony will probably just make the current list of PSOne and PS2 classics available on PSN on PS4. If you've already bought some you'll probably be able to re-download them at no charge (which is what Sony did on the Vita). The real remaining question is if Sony plans to use this emulation to let you play old physical discs. That's how they let you use PS1 discs on PS3, and I think hackers found out unlocked PS3 firmware could run PS2 discs through emulation.
Okami on PS4...
It would be beyond amazing.
For Okami I'd rather they just take the PS3 port and bring it over to PS4. The PS3 version of Okami already renders in 4K (and then downsamples to 1080p). I imagine a PS4 port would just display at 4K.
The DMC games do look pretty great in PCSX2, so it would be nice.
DrROBschiz
Member
I hope that's the case. I have a nice PS1 collection on my PS3.
I never did buy anything really for PS2 on it...except Rygar because I never played it when it came out on the PS2. It was a bad purchase.
It would be a very bad and inconsistent move for them to recharge for games on Ps4
Pretty sure they will maintain the same unified account structure for emulated games that we saw this generation
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
People have already talked about this. It will probably be the same as it always has been. You buy a PS1 game, it works on everything that supports it. There is no "wii u" price.
Brainiac 8
Member
#1 - Don't tell me what I can or can't do.
#2 - I was just stating facts to his incorrect info. All VC/Wiiware games can be transferred to the WiiU free of charge. There is no convolution with that, it's pretty cut and dry.
brandonh83
Banned
Finally, Silent Hill in HD.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Soul Reaver 1/2 and Fear Effect 1/2 in 1080p would be glorious.
Remind me never to come round to yours to play games.
DrROBschiz
Member
How Nintendo does it
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/sy...p?menu=how_to&submenu=wup-transfer-ht-content
How Sony does it
Connect to Psn and download purchased game.
But yes that guy was incorrect. It can be done if you follow all the steps.
seriously! i'm feeling the same.
i really really really hope that we will be able to use our discs, since some of my favourites haven't ever been released on psn (ssx, timesplitters, amplitude, tony hawk's pro skater 2).
sechsterangriff
Member
If this ends up being true it can only be better if it actually supports disc based games :lol
DrROBschiz
Member
It would be a nice gesture but there is no precedent for it.. I wouldn't expect it.
Remember Vita/PSP Umd fiasco?
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
I fear this will make some of my much desired HD remasters less likely.
Dark Cloud 2 and Rogue Galaxy. Sigh.
Dark Cloud 2 and Rogue Galaxy. Sigh.
MikeE21286
Member
PLEASE let me finally download PSP games onto PS3 or PS4
Ah, okay, sorry, the use of "you" in your post just made it seem like you were answering to me.
Well then you won't care. Why let you use what you have when they can sell it to you again? I'd love it if Sony spread more good will like that but I doubt it will happen.
didn't sony file a patent that talked about retroactively putting trophies in old games? if this emulator can really make games run at native resolution, it could essentially be the same as a rerelease.
sechsterangriff
Member
Well the PS3 still supports disc based PS1 games, so there's that. But since they removed PS2 support for physical games in favor of digital downloads I'm not expecting it either. But yeah, it would be a very nice little extra for those who kept their collections all these years. :>
I've always thought publishers would have issues with HD emulation enhancements, but since this would only be for digital titles we'll have to buy again, it would be easy to manage.
For example, many full screen games are not meant to be viewed in widescreen. The extra screen space shows visual blemishes and geometry that were meant to be hidden.
Similarly, certain low res assets and GUIs can look atrocious, not to mention most HUDs being designed for full screen also.
So, a lot of developers might want to tweak their games before they are presented. This is by and large why I never expected this to happen for disc emulation on 360/PS3, and I also knew it would never come to Wii U for Wii games (BUT DOLPHIN HURRR-no. It isn't Nintendo's decision to present other people's games in a format other than they were originally designed for.)
Anyways, this would work fine for rereleases and will essentially make it easy for more developers to release HD updates with minimal work.
For example, many full screen games are not meant to be viewed in widescreen. The extra screen space shows visual blemishes and geometry that were meant to be hidden.
Similarly, certain low res assets and GUIs can look atrocious, not to mention most HUDs being designed for full screen also.
So, a lot of developers might want to tweak their games before they are presented. This is by and large why I never expected this to happen for disc emulation on 360/PS3, and I also knew it would never come to Wii U for Wii games (BUT DOLPHIN HURRR-no. It isn't Nintendo's decision to present other people's games in a format other than they were originally designed for.)
Anyways, this would work fine for rereleases and will essentially make it easy for more developers to release HD updates with minimal work.
MikeE21286
Member
As far as disc versus digital....
There's absolutely no way this is going to be for discs. No incentive for Sony to allow that to happen.
There's absolutely no way this is going to be for discs. No incentive for Sony to allow that to happen.
Hades Hotgun
Banned
If this is not true, then I will cry.
If this IS true, then I will cry.
If this IS true, then I will cry.
Yeah porting Okami HD to PS4 is even better but that would be up to Capcom. It's unlikely but there's RE4 Ultimate HD on steam after all these years so anything is possible with Capcom. I hope it happens someday.
ThatStupidLion
Member
sony just keeps on giving!
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Can this fucking Valhalla of gaming actually exist?
flatearthpandas
Member
I don't expect it to run discs, but I would be so psyched if it could run discs. My PS4 would magically change from my expensive Resogun player to one of my most-played consoles. I still have quite a few PS2 games on my shelf I still have to get around to and would love to play them on PS4.
But ultimately, I don't mind hooking up the PS2 and will absolutely not rebuy anything I have that still works.
But ultimately, I don't mind hooking up the PS2 and will absolutely not rebuy anything I have that still works.
Yes they did, an I'm pretty sure something came out about a similar process from them years ago too. If they can stick trophies into old games, well, that would be pretty darn fanastic. Playing through the old Spyro, Crash, or FF games and having trophies to collect, would make me replay all my old games.
