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[tuxfool]

And everyone jumped to conclusion knowing they were jpg. Who's the silly one now?

pngs don't magically add shadows or AO. If people were solely judging IQ then you'd have a point.

 

[DOWN]

Last ones. See you guys in the wasteland.

Why the random birds have better texture layering than the flat-fur dog?

 

[Alienous]

And everyone jumped to conclusion knowing they were jpg. Who's the silly one now?

Did they? Who jumped to the conclusion that the .jpg's were representative of Fallout 4's image quality? LegacyZero, for like 5 seconds?

The problems people have were with things like shadows. The fidelity of the objects. Things that show up in .jpg's and .png's.

Now we have images that contrast the ones that started the thread, screenshots framed to showcase the graphics, and what they do is show that Fallout 4 doesn't look bad all of the time. The opinions based on the original images still stand (at least most of them do).

 

[Obliterator]

The updated shots from Shinobi look waaaaay better.

Hyped

 

[Aceshighhhh]

What a disaster. And 30 fps to boot

 

[JumPeRJumPzZ]

this png screens still look meh...

 

[Jobbs]

What are you talking about?

People changing their opinions in light of new information is a good thing.

Some of the (not all, but some) negative posts earlier in the thread were so negative, so hyperbolic, so celebratory in their bashing of the game and of Bethesda..

FYI I haven't changed my tune at all, game's gonna look great, as I said this morning and this afternoon and just now.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

Last ones. See you guys in the wasteland.

A PS360 game indeed. 🙄

Thanks shinobi

 

[Denton]

Then your obviously not who I'm referring to and I fail to see how they are hiding anything. Just more pics. People are really paranoid here.

Texture quality, shadow draw distance, LoD do not change with higher quality pictures.
These were the things that were criticised, and these are the things that will be criticised.
However perhaps not on PC where this stuff is adjustable.

 

[Oogedei]

Looks way better. Of course those shots are still not perfect in any way but Fallout 4 surely isn't looking like shit.

Spoiler

I like how most of the hate crowd went dead silent for the last 2-3 pages

 

[Mahonay]

The updated shots from Shinobi look waaaaay better.

Hyped

The game on PS4 definitely seems to look a lot better in up close and medium distance situations.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Bless you Shinoni. You have brought order out of chaos.

 

[ymgve]

Didn't really expect anything else, but slightly disappointed that it seems like a large number of buildings are barricaded and not enterable at all.

 

[k4n3]

Time for people to line up right? Go on.

saying people need to eat crow for saying the original screen shots were ugly is about as fanboy as you can get, sorry they still look like crap just these new ones are better

 

[Jobbs]

A PS360 game indeed. ��

Thanks shinobi

I bet you'll still have at least some people saying that. A lot of people have really warped memories of what last gen looked like.

 

[Quote]

That HUD is going to destroy my older Plasma TV.

 

[VanCityGamer]

That HUD is going to destroy my older Plasma TV.

Anyone know if we can turn it right off??

 

[Betty]

Pictures like this get me more excited compared to anything else they've shown. I just wanna scour every inch of that house corner to corner.

 

[McBryBry]

Game look great. However, am I the only one bugged by the font? Something about it just looks odd to me. Looking forward to UI mods just for that. I don't know why it's bothering me so much, but it must say something if its the only thing bothering me.

Edit: I think its the UI in general. It all looks weird, "too clean" is what comes to mind.

 

[KiraXD]

Low resolution alpha effects. I assume for performance reasons.

ehh it looks more like low res bloom/lighting effects rather than just alpha effects... it looks to be some type of god ray effect...

 

[Obliterator]

The game on PS4 definitely seems to look a lot better in up close and medium distance situations.

Yeah the impression I'm getting is that the game will look solid at close and medium but suffer quite a bit at larger scale

 

[RoboPlato]

The shots Shinobi posted look better than anything else I've seen of the game.

 

[F0rneus]

Oh shit these new screens. Hnnnnng. It's out so soon....The wasteland beckons...

 

[Drazgul]

Didn't really expect anything else, but slightly disappointed that it seems like a large number of buildings are barricaded and not enterable at all.

The DCInteriors and NVInteriors Project mods were fantastic for fixing this issue in FO3 and NV, and something similar I could very well see getting released for the consoles as well, since they are relatively simple mods in the end.

 

[Alienous]

I bet you'll still have at least some people saying that. A lot of people have really warped memories of what last gen looked like.

To me, for a 30fps game the above image looks far more like a last-gen game than a current-gen game, except for the resolution.

 

[DOWN]

Did they? Who jumped to the conclusion that the .jpg's were representative of Fallout 4's image quality? LegacyZero, for like 5 seconds?

There's a bunch of bans for a reason man. Lots of people bashed the game over poor image quality (which is heavily affected by PNG vs JPEG) and condemned the whole appearance of the game by citing only how the distance looks (the clarity of which is affected by screenshot quality and also suffers from lost shadows and foliage on console open worlds across the board). The original shots were obviously a narrow, if not misleading representation of the game's visuals and people still used them like commandments.

 

[Jigorath]

Shinobi has saved this thread.

I have no problem playing a game that looks like this

Or this

So I think I'm ok with Fallout 4.

I like you.

 

[tuxfool]

ehh it looks more like low res bloom/lighting effects rather than just alpha effects... it looks to be some type of god ray effect...

You're probably correct. But my reason probably is correct.

 

[Jobbs]

For a 30fps game that looks far more like a last-gen game than a current-gen game, outside of the resolution of the image.

You could take many screenshots in isolation from many PS4 games and say the same thing.

When viewed as a whole, when played, I don't expect to have a single complaint about the look of the game.

 

[DAREALGUMMY]

saying people need to eat crow for saying the original screen shots were ugly is about as fanboy as you can get, sorry they still look like crap just these new ones are better

The crow is for people who believed that the game looked completely like those pictures.

 

[soulluos]

The game does look a little better in png. What an ugly hud.

 

[Balmung421]

Holy crap those originals vs the pngs are like 2 different games. Looks great

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

As long as it is solid frame rate and clean visuals when runing, i could not give a fuck the game is going to be amazing
Would i like a new engine, of course lol

 

[Obliterator]

The shots Shinobi posted look better than anything else I've seen of the game.

I also agree with this which is kind of strange. Its the best the game has ever looked to me. Maybe some good last minute optimization has been done?

 

[Styles]

Now lets get a PNG image of this shot:

Spoiler

The draw distance looks almost exactly the same as Oblivion on the PS360.

But I'll be playing it on the PC, so these images are kinda pointless.

 

[MegaMelon]

Nicer pictures for sure. Wish we had some we could actually compare to the jpgs like bobblehead, overlook and shaaaaauuuuuuunnnn for instance.

 

[Jacobi]

The PNGs look much better. They also just captured cooler moments.

 

[Hoje0308]

Wonder if this is Bethesda intentionally "leaking" some better images as damage control

They all 'cleverly' avoid showing shadows at more than 10 feet away... so yeah, I'd say that's a strong possibility.

And the two of you just 'cleverly' accused another member of astroturfing.

 

[Tainted]

Pictures like this get me more excited compared to anything else they've shown. I just wanna scour every inch of that house corner to corner.

Yep...the wandering around scavenging for stuff in F3/NV never grew old for me...spent countless hours doing it. I'm sure it will be just as fantastic in F4, the game world looks to be amazing, the color palette makes a world of difference. Those comparing this to vanilla F3 need their eyes checked.

I've cleared out my backlog of games and TV shows in prep for this release, I anticipate spending alot of time in post apocalyptic Boston

 

[MohitParty]

Last ones. See you guys in the wasteland.

The green always threw me off so I'm glad there's an option to change the colour of the HUD.

 

[soulluos]

Less blurry and washed out in png format, but the texture and shadow is still poor, lol.

 

[Alienous]

There's a bunch of bans for a reason man. Lots of people bashed the game over poor image quality (which is heavily affected by PNG vs JPEG) and condemned the whole appearance of the game by citing only how the distance looks (the clarity of which is affected by screenshot quality and also suffers from lost shadows and foliage on console open worlds across the board). The original shots were obviously a narrow, if not misleading representation of the game's visuals and people still used them like commandments.

That implies that Shinobi's images aren't "a narrow, if not misleading representation of the game's visuals" too. They appear to be far more framed, whereas the screenshots that started the thread seemed less so. It seems to be that Shinobi's images do more to present the game as looking good than the first set of images done to present the game as looking bad.

Both sets of images are valid, is all I'm saying.

 

[Betty]

Yep...the wandering around scavenging for stuff in F3/NV never grew old for me...spent countless hours doing it. I'm sure it will be just as fantastic in F4, the game world looks to be amazing, the color palette makes a world of difference. Those comparing this to vanilla F3 need their eyes checked.

I've cleared out my backlog of games and TV shows in prep for this release, I anticipate spending alot of time in post apocalyptic Boston

Yup, feels good having no other games vying for attention.

 

[Haunted]

Doesn't look great, but people don't play Bethesda games for great graphics out of the box.

Here's hoping the modding community can pick up some of their slack again.

 

[User 479360]

I like the look of it. /shrugs

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Ok, those png shots are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

 

[bodeiseifer]

Exactly why I pushed for skepticism earlier. Looks like a different game.

Really?
What exactly are you judging the games visual merits on?

 

[jimbobsmells]

Blue hud beats green hud every time

 

[Nameless]

The green always threw me off so I'm glad there's an option to change the colour of the HUD.

Red UI for the blood I'm going to paint the wastes with.

 

[Shadax the wizard]

So what AA do you guys reckon this game is using? The vegetation in the PNG's looks way clean.