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Fifa Switch will be reportedly based off the PS3/360 versions
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funkystudent
Member
Is Nintendo being cheap too because 90% of their software lineup is basically nothing but ports of Wii U games?
I think starting from the 360 verison makes sense here and the list of customization for the Switch seem obvious.
Stripped down port of the Frostbite version would probably be a bad idea. Odds are it would have a 30fps cap like all last gen frostbite games and got knows what else would be cut.
At least with the 360 base they have a solid 60fps, feature rich version of the game that can be built upon instead of stripped down until it ran OK.
Kresnik258
Member
Weren't the Vita FIFA games based on FIFA 11 from the PS360?
If so, lol. I wonder if EA will drag out reskinned games every year for 4 years like they did on that console.
If so, lol. I wonder if EA will drag out reskinned games every year for 4 years like they did on that console.
MaximumSpider
Banned
MisterXDTV
Member
My semi-educated guess: Not enough dev time to port all the new FIFA 17-specific Frostbite features this year while also doing FIFA 18 so they opted to port non-Frostbite FIFA which had an engine that could run on similar specs with the features FIFA needed. In service of having a FIFA title on the system this year in time for the summer season.
FIFA Frostbite was in development specifically for "Gen 4" for several years before FIFA 17 materialized.
That is, if FIFA Switch is based on 360-era FIFA.
FIFA Frostbite was in development specifically for "Gen 4" for several years before FIFA 17 materialized.
That is, if FIFA Switch is based on 360-era FIFA.
illmatic22
Banned
LMAO
Fucking awful.
Fucking awful.
Serenitynow
Member
Anywhere north of like 25m units and Nintendo isn't going to consider that a failure
Not disagreeing with you but the prices for the switch show how out of touch Nintendo is with reality. They probably think they can get away with it
This is a troubling sign for the Switch. I know that most people on this site don't care for EA sports but you have to wonder if other third parties will follow a similar path in reference to porting games over moving forward.
I don't know if the Switch is that underpowered in comparison to PS4 and Xbox one, but this makes me wonder if after the first year will most 3rd parties even bother porting over there games if they have to downgrade them significantly to run on the Switch.
I don't know if the Switch is that underpowered in comparison to PS4 and Xbox one, but this makes me wonder if after the first year will most 3rd parties even bother porting over there games if they have to downgrade them significantly to run on the Switch.
MisterXDTV
Member
Maybe a great looking/smooth running X360 port, it's better than a severely downgraded Xbox One port....
Could this be the case?
Could this be the case?
Really? that would be terrible. Not even their worst case scenario projection will be that low
I legitimately cracked up at this during the conference.
Wishmaster92
Member
what about EA's ignite engine? It can't even look as good as an xbone launch sports game? Why ps3/360? That's so archaic.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I don't care about FIFA but this is absurd. Completely fucking absurd.
To think that someone from EA flew to Japan to attend that shitty conference in order to announce such a joke is mind boggling.
As a Nintendo fan who wants their platforms to do well I should be upset I guess but at this point I don't have the energy and I just find this shit funny. They are sailing right into the iceberg with a proud smile on their face.
To think that someone from EA flew to Japan to attend that shitty conference in order to announce such a joke is mind boggling.
As a Nintendo fan who wants their platforms to do well I should be upset I guess but at this point I don't have the energy and I just find this shit funny. They are sailing right into the iceberg with a proud smile on their face.
That's the worry I have. I don't see third party devs bothering to make port versions if they have to make severe downgrades.
Diddy Kong
Banned
Wii U's were "sold out" as well.
so many L's
And if the biggest third party publisher isn't on board then why on Earth would anyone else. This thing is designed to sell to the same market the WiiU did, so lifetime 10 million sales and massively underpowered hardware makes a poor proposition to anyone thinking of porting their games across. And the self fulfilling prophecy kicks into gear on day one and we have a Nintendo exclusives console only.
It's sad Nintendo keeps making the same mistakes. Maybe they only want to sell 10/20 million consoles max and crawl further and further up their own ass, but it doesn't seem like particularly wise move as far as basic business strategy goes.
Those saying Nintendo consoles shouldn't be expecting third parties really must hate Nintendo, whether they realise it or not. I like the idea of playing FIFA in bed. The latest FIFA. Or Battlefront... a console that could run those games well AND of course play the latest Zelda/Mario would be a no brainier for many. Instead of sales in the 10/20 million preaching to the choir bracket they could seriously be looking at a console selling PS4 kind of numbers. All that means more exposure for Nintendo, more money to fund more, better, bigger Nintendo games and basically would be positive all round.
As it stands Nintendo STILL think they don't need third parties and don't need to make a console with a wide appeal but are convinced that their own shit is so good that people will just abandon logic and reason and flock to their overpriced underpowered compromised console. Nope.
FIFA on PS2 outlasted FIFA on WiiU.
CanUKlehead
Member
Who the hell will buy this?? It's almost the end of the season by the time this launches, anyone who wants FIFA 17 already has them on PS or Xbox (including 3 and 360) and it's based on the 360 ports.
I don't know why EA bothered and Nintendo approved.
Might as well wait until FIFA 18 and have EA port Mass Effect Andromeda instead (if it can handle it).
I don't know why EA bothered and Nintendo approved.
Might as well wait until FIFA 18 and have EA port Mass Effect Andromeda instead (if it can handle it).
TannerDemoz
Member
Reasonable console ffs
captmcblack
Member
This just needs to not be allowed.
Is there no way of harassing someone or starting some campaign on the Internet to stop shit like this?
There's no way the Switch couldn't run a modern engine based on modern architectures; why let this happen again?
Third parties are going to release crappy gimped versions of games and put out "test games" that are super side stories and spinoffs with minimal effort and features.
Those versions are going to come out late, be released at full price and sell poorly.
Then, third parties will not release anything and they'll say "see, we tried but Nintendo just doesn't have the right audience for this type of game"
And the cycle will perpetuate itself. No Legacy editions, no PS3/360/mobile ports. Fuck that shit.
Is there no way of harassing someone or starting some campaign on the Internet to stop shit like this?
There's no way the Switch couldn't run a modern engine based on modern architectures; why let this happen again?
Third parties are going to release crappy gimped versions of games and put out "test games" that are super side stories and spinoffs with minimal effort and features.
Those versions are going to come out late, be released at full price and sell poorly.
Then, third parties will not release anything and they'll say "see, we tried but Nintendo just doesn't have the right audience for this type of game"
And the cycle will perpetuate itself. No Legacy editions, no PS3/360/mobile ports. Fuck that shit.
MisterXDTV
Member
No problem: they will release Fifa 18 as legacy edition with a roster update in September... LOL
I remember rumors about disagreements between EA and Nintendo over the Wii U's online service, but I don't remember the specific.
EA and Nintendo potentially having a feud doesn't explain why most third party games don't come out on Nintendo's consoles, though.
The reality is that these companies are looking at the potential audience for their products on a Nintendo console and they don't see return on investment.
You think it's ridiculous for EA to base the Switch version on last-gen? Sure, that may be the case, but logic tells me it has more to do with the fact that the newer versions of FIFA are using the Frostbite engine, and EA as a company doesn't see a reason to make that engine work on the Switch at the moment because they have no other games planned for it as of right now.
infinityBCRT
Member
EA Sports games use most of the available CPU for gameplay (AI, collision physics). Even if the graphics were scaled back, switch wouldn't be able to run the PS4 game logic without heavy optimization.
Case in point: the first version of madden for PS4/xb1 LOOKED identical to the 360/PS3 versions but played way better because the defensive AI could do more computation on what the right moves to make were. Dig up some old press row podcast episodes from that time period to hear the discussion on that.
Case in point: the first version of madden for PS4/xb1 LOOKED identical to the 360/PS3 versions but played way better because the defensive AI could do more computation on what the right moves to make were. Dig up some old press row podcast episodes from that time period to hear the discussion on that.
No you are wrong. He flew over to announce the name of his child.
Danis Saur
Member
Wow.
serenewarfare
Banned
To me this is most likely not a "Switch can't handle Frostbite" situation. It's way more likely that EA just doesn't want to put in the investment to make Frostbite work on Switch.
friskykillface
Banned
No L's were taken since you can easily return items bought during the holidays with a receipt, shame too because I wish she got stuck with those wii U's
on topic, not a surprise, EA don't give a fuck about Nintendo
MisterXDTV
Member
I just realized they didn't name it Fifa 17 or Fifa 18....
They named Fifa for Nintendo Switch (coming in 2017)
That alone tells you everything you need to know:
PS3/X360 port coming...
They named Fifa for Nintendo Switch (coming in 2017)
That alone tells you everything you need to know:
PS3/X360 port coming...
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Surprised they didn´t revive the ps2 engine and used that.
Low effort -> no sales -> guess you don´t want games -> no more games.
Low effort -> no sales -> guess you don´t want games -> no more games.
And if it could all of that it would cost $500. No thanks.
Art Vandilay
Member
Wii U's were "sold out" as well.
Hahaha this is great. Fucking scalpers...
redmetal86
Member
Well, if they won't port Frostbite for FIFA, what will they port it for?