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Fighting Games Weekly | Dec 29 - Jan 4 | 2015: An Esports Odyssey
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whoa. that's pretty cool.
Xanadu Monthly today from Baltimore, stream at http://www.twitch.tv/airjuggle
Sweet Prologue (Smash tournament) today and tomorrow from Michigan, stream at http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp
http://www.twitch.tv/clashtournaments
Clash Tournaments is also streaming Collision XI focusing on Smash 4.
MiniBossBattle
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My two year old got some Marvel plushies; Thor, Captain America, Spiderman, Iron Man and the Hulk. I started thinking about team compositions & assists. I feel so Dahbomb,
JeTmAn81
Member
My 4 month old got a Batman onesie for Christmas. Does this mean she will be stuck with NRS fighters forever?
"God's Beard!"
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The official Capcom poll was much more indicative of who people like.
hitsugi
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Not to mention SF3 still had a few characters trickle in (Ken, Ryu, Akuma, Chun) from the old series. Originally, I believe the game plan was to scrap everyone entirely, Ken and Ryu included, hence the "New Generation" title.
People just want to play as Freddy Murcury.
Good character design gets good praise.
Shit character design gets rightfully shitted on.
The whole lucky chloe situation was actually free publicity for Tekken 7. lol.
Literally every gaming site had an article on it with a good chunk of people now set on buying Tekken just to support this character, hahahaha.
Not too surprised by this but still pretty cool. Love that they used a pic of Harada wearing a Ghotra, lul.
Text itself it pretty funny. They say that he's the main character of the game.
SF3 did poorly in the arcades as well from my experience with the veteran crew. It was a combo of lack of favorite characters, projectile game being made totally crap (people hated parry), and NG was truly kusoge (people developed Ibuki triple OS tech into infinites here)
Godlike Saturday from Indianapolis is live with some marvel casuals http://www.twitch.tv/netbattles
Reminds me of the situation with DmC where people were set to support the Dante re-design due to the backlash and media coverage of white/black hair. Yeah that turned out real good for that game...
At least Tekken has a bunch of other characters to enjoy, one bad design isn't going to ruin the experience for many.
I don't think that's comparable but okay. They fixed Dante's DmC design. I don't think they're gonna be changing Lucky Chloe in any significant way.
Edit: If you read Harada's twitter now, it's filled with support messages for chloe. The hate got drowned out.
I think it's also a terrible design but the backlash made me want to troll with her online. SEEEEEEE YOU NEXT TIIIIME!!! BAIIIIIII
That ending taunt is like salt on wounds. lol.
chocolate disco
Neo Member
It's a pretty good ability to see only one bad design in the Tekken's roster.
Chloe design is bad but it's not any worse than some of the other stuff we've had.
I can see chloe appeals to a certain audience, though. And considering Namco wants Tekken to be a global brand catering to everyone, I can't blame them for catering to that audience.
Everyone tries to dream of the days Tekken was only dark and serious but I don't think those days ever existed. We've always had goofy characters in Tekken and funny, non-serious endings right alongside with all the serious Mishima fist fights.
which is a pretty bold move on Capcom's part. They probably wanted to go this route and create new characters every number version. Sad that people hate new things...
Was that infinite in 3rd Strike or only the original? Capcom has always been pretty bad at grabbing fans of previous iterations. That's why you will only see people who only play SF2 or SF3... Kinda sucks..
Which other design is outright awful?
If you answer Alisa, fine. But at least she has chainsaw arms and an exploding head, which makes up for those ugly pink hair. Other characters range from okay to awesome, though.
There have been bad designs in Tekken before, I have already went ham on Alisa and Lars before. Chloe however manages to be in her own tier of awfulness and is only in Tekken to woo the otakus.
I don't think her design is bad, personally. They were clearly going for the modern AKB48 styled idol + Hatsune Miku-esque vocaloid look and on that end they executed it well. Almost too well which presents the issue; It's not a design Tekken fans and enthusiasts around these parts will not resonate with her considering that we do not yet have a culturally affinity towards Japanese idols and vocaloids which is evidently Chloe's sources of inspiration . So unsurprisingly many of you are adverse to it. The thing some of you need to realize is that that's honestly ok. You're not going to like every character design in a fighting game. Every thing doesn't have to appeal to you at once. I personally don't see it for Q at all but many of you guys are hardcore Q fans. I don't go out of my way to let you all know how much I find Q to be corny, I simply let y'all cook.
CountBlack
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Anyone trynna play USF4 on Xbox rn
And that's the fucking problem.
That's your problem. That shit appeals to people. You have to let it go man. just let them cook
ViewtifulJC
Banned
welp
What if he is like Alex is in 3s lol
Valkerionseven
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Japan as a whole has been catering/throwing those elements in since 2007 though so... its not worth getting upset with at this point imo. One of those things you either noticed and got over by now or not I guess.
if it's a problem for you doesn't mean that there isn't a group of people who it does not appeal too. It doesn't appeal to me btw...
I tthink karin has supporters. She fits the rival western blond girl trope that is in so many anime, I feel as though there is a fanbase for that character
But like birdie, no. Put like what rufus was gonna be as a character, you just haven't seen birdie in a while.
There's a tournament in TN going on right now. Ultra is now, and the winner gets a spot in SCORE1K, a pre-KiT invitational full of top players on Thursday the 8th.
There's also an Xrd tournament at 5pm CST at the same location. I'll be there if I make it in time.
www.twitch.tv/day1combos
Explain why is it bad but a fucking kangaroo is okay
I mean Tekken isn't a sacred bastion of character design but at the same time I can't really put m y finger on the bad designs outside of like Lars and Alisa. It's not as bad as in BlazBlue where everyone looks creatively sterile.
There are like a dozen other waifu fighters and idolmasters for these people to consume. They can cook that stuff in those games.
And besides Alisa is already supposed to be that character which appeals to them. Then on top of that there are a ton of customizations to make your character to look like a catgirl or an idol or whatever you fancy.
A good design is something where you look at the character and you instantly recognize what they are going for. When I look at Chloe I clearly see that they are going for a demographic, not going for a good character design. It's not original and it's not inspired.
It honestly looks like one of the many custom creations that people make which are a god damn eye sore. Hell I have seen people make custom creations that look better than that.
And besides Alisa is already supposed to be that character which appeals to them. Then on top of that there are a ton of customizations to make your character to look like a catgirl or an idol or whatever you fancy.
I already explained why Chloe is bad. It's overdesigned and garish with no unifying theme. Is it a ballerina, a DJ, a pop idol? At least the kangaroo looks like a damn kangaroo.
A good design is something where you look at the character and you instantly recognize what they are going for. When I look at Chloe I clearly see that they are going for a demographic, not going for a good character design. It's not original and it's not inspired.
It honestly looks like one of the many custom creations that people make which are a god damn eye sore. Hell I have seen people make custom creations that look better than that.
Ok, well they made another one. There are other characters you can play.
I'm bout to play as my by sasheem or whatever his name is, arabic dude in video game with a respectful design. Oh hell yes.
Naw. I made this point before.
I can't get mad at cloe when devil jin is the human version of the first two Lincoln park albums
ViewtifulJC
Banned
animu weirdos need tekken characters too Dahbomb 
not like any of ya'll niggas actually play Tekken(or fighting games(or video games)) anyway ayy lmao
not like any of ya'll niggas actually play Tekken(or fighting games(or video games)) anyway ayy lmao
animu weirdos need tekken characters too Dahbomb
not like any of ya'll niggas actually play Tekken(or fighting games(or video games)) anyway ayy lmao
I've been too anime lately. Xrd is a whole new world for me and my tourist ass is too slow and getting robbed on the regular. :lol
cuz a kangaroo could kick someone's shit in more than a tutu wearing idol wannabe. this is a fighting game, god dammit, not idolmaster!
In reality, I'm indifferent to the design of Lucky Chloe. I'm desensitized to anything deemed "too anime" at this point. Hell, she isn't even as anime as she probably could be. The rabbit hole of anime goes deep.
I also don't get this whole argument of "Tekken has bad designs already, what is one more bad design going to do?" Just because there are other bad designs in Tekken doesn't excuse them to add even more bad ones.
I don't want another Lars or another type of bear in Tekken either.
I don't want another Lars or another type of bear in Tekken either.
I really don't think Chloe is appealing to any demographic because of the inconsistencies with her design. I'll agree that she's a very loud and incoherent character but this is a game that has a LOT of loud and incoherent characters. I think she fits in fine.
I used to think C. Viper was an incredibly non SF like character and I still do today because her direction is something you see from KOF.
CountBlack
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EMP_Put_DJ_In_Tekken
Daigo thinks SFV looks too slow(and some other weird things): http://beastnote.blogspot.com/2015/01/umehara-talk-20141231.html
Kind of reminds me of his initial impressions of SFIV though, so it might not matter to even him in the end. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj_T6c-_L6A)
Kind of reminds me of his initial impressions of SFIV though, so it might not matter to even him in the end. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj_T6c-_L6A)
notworksafe
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Still moaning about Chloe? I guess when you don't actually play fighting games you gotta do something to occupy your time til the next fgc drama event to cluck about.
And I would agree with that.
Cue the Viper KOF image....
Actually I have better version
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Down to the color pallet and name
Black Widow
Crimson Viper
And she works for the CIA