Obviously. Higher LOD can do a lot but not that much. Just saying higher specs can achieve more than just a better framerate and resolution.
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Final Fantasy XV: Signs of downgrades from the Platinum Demo
- Thread starter texhnolyze
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Obviously. Higher LOD can do a lot but not that much. Just saying higher specs can achieve more than just a better framerate and resolution.
Perfect Cha0s
Member
downgrade from Visual Works target render
oh no
oh no
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
both shots look fine to me really.
how about starting to compare apples to apples and oranges with oranges and not the other way around? I mean, you cant compare target-render from a high end pc to PS4 footage from a demo....
I'm willingly to bet that it probably doesn't look at bad as you're making it seem. This is also only a demo.
sixteen-bit
Member
I wonder if that'll skip NX. It's getting DQ11, right?
I don't get downgrade outrage. They plan the game to look one way, realize that it can't some ways through development due to it causing unstable framerate or something, then dial the graphics back to get the game in a working order. Doesn't that happening in game development all the time?
That's what Horii said before they made him walk it back, iirc.
The fact that it's a demo isn't going to change much, we are not years from the release but only 6 months away from it and even less from when the game goes gold and away from heavy development production. They are not going to have big asset changes in the last 5-6 months of development.
Game will look more or less like this only less rough on the edges, still nowhere near what the CG trailer showed.
//DEVIL//
Member
part of me wants to wait for this game to hit the pc so I can enjoy it maximum glory with 60 fps.
another part makes me wtf I cant wait to play this. so I am thinking of double dipping.
the frame rates in both demos I played were not stabe 30 fps. or maybe I twas but it wasn't smooth anyway and I don't like that.
another part makes me wtf I cant wait to play this. so I am thinking of double dipping.
the frame rates in both demos I played were not stabe 30 fps. or maybe I twas but it wasn't smooth anyway and I don't like that.
Newtype-001
Member
Trickster
Member
How often do you see big changes in the visuals in the last 6 months of a game's dev time?
"it's a demo" "game's not out yet" "they still have months to make the game look better" etc etc
mcdomination
Member
For those of you saying "it's a demo" or "it's still 6 months away"...
Name one time in the history of video games where the final product performed and looked (by leaps and bounds) better than an alpha, beta, demo, etc...
Name one time in the history of video games where the final product performed and looked (by leaps and bounds) better than an alpha, beta, demo, etc...
Every time that I've played or tested a game that was in actual alpha or beta? I mean, come on, this isn't even a hard thing to name. Considering that graphical polish is usually a beta milestone, and they are certainly in polish phase, I'm sure it will be better by launch, but there will definitely be some hiccups.
texhnolyze
Banned
The game still has 6 months of development time until release.
Or
The game only has 6 months of development time left until release.
Supermanisdead
Member
Who cares about graphics, fix the janky combat!
There's a difference between "graphical polish" and "graphical overhaul", one is going to happen when the other is not.
UmbraeCruxis
Banned
It looks great to me, and we're people really expecting a super alive city in noctis' dream. I liked it. The combat as kid body is was boring but the environments are good and the combat once you play around with it is actually a lot of fun. I'm personally hyped for September.
Less than 6 months is very short for polish on that level. :S
They will just make sure that the game doesn't run too bad... even Duscae looked better, no?
The PS4 sure, for the NX SE were thinking about it. Nintendo will have to prove that NX won't just another Wii U (great games, very limited user base).
Trickster
Member
It's almost as if GAF isn't a single person
I'm glad things like this don't bother me and I'll enjoy the game day one.
Platinumstorm
Member
We're missing threads like, :How will Luna affect Blazblue Central Fiction's sales if they confuse her with Platinum the Trinity?" or "Will the new moon on September 30th affect sales of Final Fantasy XV on XBox1, and will this change the landscape of gaming without proper lunar alignment?"
Strangelove77
Member
Get used to it.
StereoVsn
Member
Amazing. Just need to add PC somewhere in there.
Newtype-001
Member
Nah im fine
Strangelove77
Member
Yeah looks like it.
Newtype-001
Member
Thanks for understanding.
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The Baron Count
Member
Almost every single game in existence looks leaps and bounds better when it's released than Alpha. On the other hand almost no game looks leaps and bounds better when released than when in Beta. However performance almost always improves dramatically in the last 6 months or so because that is exactly when a dev starts to optimize. There is no use in optimizing code for a system when a how the game uses it is still in flux.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
The lack of ground shadows on distance objects is worrying.
They also don't seem to line up with the buildings in the lower right.
They also don't seem to line up with the buildings in the lower right.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Game goes gold about 2 months before so 4 months.
GAF gonna GAF. It's gonna reach a point where no game developer can show off anything prior to a certain point in development, but maybe games with 10-year dev cycles are a special case.
Anyway, one small detail: Noctis seems to be much higher up in the second pic, meaning the stuff on the grown is farther away from him. LOD might not have kicked in for some of those details.
Anyway, one small detail: Noctis seems to be much higher up in the second pic, meaning the stuff on the grown is farther away from him. LOD might not have kicked in for some of those details.
The Baron Count
Member
The common element is the fact that virtually every one of these games that were "downgraded" were shown running on hardware other than their target or I suppose in the case of FF, in a pre-rendered state.
I think that's what everybody should try to remember. In general when you see a game running on real hardware, it's only going to look better when it's released. Can't think of many times where that wasn't the case.