Takamura-San
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I make my case on the other thread.
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Gametrailers interview: Kojima answers EVERY question on Metal Gear Solid V
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I make my case on the other thread.
I don't know, I've always found Campell's robotic style of voice rather haunting, especially in MGS2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul8j9I90ueM
Because it could be better? Games change, characters change too. If it's a positive change, that's great, if it's a negative one, that's a shame.
ginger ninja
Banned
People still arguing about VO ? some of you should watch the behind the scenes videos from MGS4 special edition, one can totally see how Hayter's voice becomes too forced and dreamy...
PapaJustify
Member
So guys, from now on I will headbutt everyone who dares to shittalk Geoff Keighley.
This guy is spot on, asking all the right questions.
This guy is spot on, asking all the right questions.
deddonpachi
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the japanese snake voice is still the same
Probably because he is a better actor.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
If only there were some kind of voice director that could direct him to do things with his voice. Shame they don't employ people like that in game development.
Omnistalgic
Member
Snake might be david...but man, tbh, he hasn't done a better job with the voice acting since MGS1 IMO...
It happens sometimes in anime, in TV shows, sometimes actors just have to move on. If Snake is an improvement, I'm all for it....
Not too keen on two games at full price though, so hopefully one is for current gen and one for next.
It happens sometimes in anime, in TV shows, sometimes actors just have to move on. If Snake is an improvement, I'm all for it....
Not too keen on two games at full price though, so hopefully one is for current gen and one for next.
Can anyone confirm that Akio Ōtsuka is out as the Japanese voice of Solid / Naked Snake as well? I never played with Japanese VO so I don't have an ear for it. If Kojima is still sticking to the original Japanese voice for Snake, shouldn't that confirm that there went down some kind of beef between Hayter and Kojima during or after MGS4?
I agree that Hayter overacted in recent MGS titles, but people seem to overlook that MGS's story and characters went equally insane after the first PSX game. I'm wondering how much of Snake's corny voice is actually Hayter's vision or just bad voice direction.
I agree that Hayter overacted in recent MGS titles, but people seem to overlook that MGS's story and characters went equally insane after the first PSX game. I'm wondering how much of Snake's corny voice is actually Hayter's vision or just bad voice direction.
I am pretty sure Otsuka Akio did snake's voice for every MGS games, except for BB in MGS4
And he is doing VA for MGSV as well
We know that Otsuka is the voice of Snake in Ground Zeroes, because the trailer/demo was in Japanese. We know that Hayter is not the voice of the character in The Phantom Pain, because the trailer/demo was in English. Beyond this aside from general comments by Kojima and Hayter, we don't actually know anything for sure.
Man I really hope this isn't about a petty ego thing!
infinityBCRT
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Kojima confirmed Phantom Pain takes place in 1984. That means Solid Snake could be a 12 year old boy during this time. Not sure if Hayter would voice Solid Snake if he shows up (I imagine he must since Miller takes Solid Snake under his wing at some point). But if not in this game, the next game (which would probably be a remake of MG1/2-- theres not much runway left for anything else involving Big Boss) would have Hayter voicing Solid Snake and whoever this is (Keifer Sutherland?) voicing Big Boss.
Japanese Snake sounds pretty good and holy shis guy is Fate/Zero's Rider! /we are not worthy.
GTP_Daverytimes
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I NEED SCISSORS
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I suppose it's a testament to how great of a game developer KojPro are that i'm still very excited for MGSV despite all the changes. Open world, no more voice of Snake - it would be a disaster for any other game (Splinter Cell, Hitman partially), yet I have full confidence that they can pull this off while still retaining the MGS spirit.
The fact that we aren't getting the Solid Snake sword in Rising either makes me think that they are dropping Hayter from the franchise completely. Maybe something happened between Kojima Productions and David Hayter since the release of Peace Walker that we don't know about.
I never had an issue with Hayter's voice work like some people seem to have had, but even so, dropping the voice actor after 15 years seems kind of strange.
Changes like this always bother me a bit. A few people mentioned already about not bringing back Cam Clarke in MGS4 which was also kind of disappointing considering they had already established in MGS2 that Ocelot had Liquid's voice anytime Liquid's arm took over. It made a lot of his scenes kind of weird since we were supposed to believe that Liquid had taken over Ocelot completely, but it just felt like Ocelot was doing a bad Liquid impersonation for the whole game.
Graphics Horse
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Hit the nail in the head, i guess the success of GT5did not go unnoticed.
No 3 year gap plz.
Night_Trekker
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I've been tired of MGS since Kojima decided to continue Big Boss's story after MGS3 (what hacky bullshit), but this thing with Hayter really pisses me off. What possible reason could they have for getting rid of him?
Just forget Big Boss/Snake and start afresh with a new character if you're going to get rid of the series's most iconic voice actor. (I'm looking at you too, Splinter Cell.)
Just forget Big Boss/Snake and start afresh with a new character if you're going to get rid of the series's most iconic voice actor. (I'm looking at you too, Splinter Cell.)
This is false. MGS2's voice work blows away most game's voice work.
And Western games relying heavily on cinematics? The average quality of the voice work there is below pretty much any of the MGS games.
Whiteshirt
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Because things can improve, assuming they want to push the series in a different direction. Judging by the trailer material, it has a lot of Metal Gear's idiosyncrasies but the tone looks more similar to MGS1. The overall story looks to be very serious and grounded but there's still enough of that spiritual and technological mumbo jumbo for it to be a "Metal Gear" game.
A lot of the voice actors in the series aren't particularly good if you revisit them without nostalgia goggles. Particularly any time Otacon needs to cry, the voice actor literally cannot display grief. Yes, the writing is a bit shoddy a lot of the time but if they're going to reboot the series, better voice actors is probably a good idea.
That's pretty much what the voice director is for; to tell the VA "hey, that's not going to work. Try it differently and do it this way," not to just be like "sounds awful, but eh, whatever, next line." Good voice direction can make even less experienced voice work sound pretty good, bad voice direction can sink even a cast with renowned actors.
Doesn't matter, it's not a real MGS game without Hayter. Might as well be a shitty gameloft ripoff without him.
BibiMaghoo
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Hayter is gone for good
Snake! Snake! Sssnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VA, has changed
Rolfmao.
Team Filler
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Says the guy that champions the gameloft version of Diablo.
No Hayter is a bummer, no doubt, but there are many great voice actors out there, and I have faith that whomever with KojiPro and Konami is doing VO direction is taking their role very seriously.
Having a mancrush on Kiefer Sutherland helps.
I'm not too keen on the voice change either...
Actually after watching that trailer the excitement really wasn't all there like it was for MGS3/4/Peacewalker for me.
I don't know... I guess it didn't have the same feel... coupled with the fact that it's current gen with no confirmed PC version isn't helping to inflate my hype much. I need to see more after some of the stuff Kojima pulled in MGS4 I suppose. Fire whales and burning unicorns(?) Okay then...
Actually after watching that trailer the excitement really wasn't all there like it was for MGS3/4/Peacewalker for me.
I don't know... I guess it didn't have the same feel... coupled with the fact that it's current gen with no confirmed PC version isn't helping to inflate my hype much. I need to see more after some of the stuff Kojima pulled in MGS4 I suppose. Fire whales and burning unicorns(?) Okay then...
Sounds true to the game though. Snake was a parody of Snake in MGS4, just like MGS4 was a parody of MGS. I'm sure it was all part of Kojima's masterplan.
R_thanatos
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i'm very satisfied by this interview ..because it touches nearly the right questions ..
i'm also happy that they will release ground zeroes early so that i can see by myself if they gameplay is still good.
I'm also happy that kojima considers peacewalker good eough to be mentionned again with the "peace" theme.
i'm also happy that they will release ground zeroes early so that i can see by myself if they gameplay is still good.
I'm also happy that kojima considers peacewalker good eough to be mentionned again with the "peace" theme.
Team Filler
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I'm still skeptical on whether Kojima is telling the truth or not with regards to Hayter. It's probably wishful thinking, but then again he is a masterful troll...
I'm also curious what he might plan to do next if his stab at "episodic gaming" actually works. A setting like ZoE could be perfect for regularly scheduled episodes...
I'm also curious what he might plan to do next if his stab at "episodic gaming" actually works. A setting like ZoE could be perfect for regularly scheduled episodes...
Dick Justice
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He obviously has some kind of grudge against Hayter. Why else would he act like an utter cunt towards him?
Pai Pai Master
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Keifer Sutherland's acting voice is really not far off from that of what we're used to. It just lacks the...silliness of Hayter's made up character voice which went off the deep end a few games back. Solid Snake is no longer featured in these games and it's clear they want Big Boss to be taken more seriously at this point in his story. He can't be taken seriously with Hayter's cartoon voice.
Otsuka is still voicing Snake because he voices the character like a real human being. I dunno if it was Konami USA or Kojima who seemed okay with the direction Hayter was taking the voice acting over the years but it created a real gulf between how the character is portrayed in the two language versions.
Team Filler
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Heh, what does that make for the craziness with Johnny Sasaki, though? Is he like an anti-parody element, or is he even more of a parody in MGS4?
Team Filler
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I haven't played Lords of Shadows, but I admit that'd be one way for Konami to get me to pick up a 3D Castlevania.
I'm not sure they'd do that, though, with Kojima sounding like he really wants to push forward on episodic releases, and I imagine Konami is also very interested in testing out the idea of "smaller" game episodes being sold seperately.
Holy Order Sol
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Some people just disagree?
longdi
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I remembered Hayter criticized MGS4 ending. That episode must have been brewing and Mr Kojima is so ego-butt hurt that he finally decided to dump David? The part about moving the series a new direction sounds like a hidden swipe at David. If you didnt like where i went with MGS4, then will you are not tagging along with MGSV. I guess these things happen often in the media/art industry.
I thought David played Snake with lots of passion every time. I dont get the hate against his gravel voice, why is that phoning it in? It will be sweet revenge for Hayter if the new "professional" A-list voice actor taking over BB/Snake phoned MGSV in.
Hayters gonna hayt.
I thought David played Snake with lots of passion every time. I dont get the hate against his gravel voice, why is that phoning it in? It will be sweet revenge for Hayter if the new "professional" A-list voice actor taking over BB/Snake phoned MGSV in.
Hayters gonna hayt.
day 0
PC version p;lz
IHaveCandy
Banned
What happened to TeamCG saying Joakim was Fox Engine CG?
When you hear David Hayter/Solid Snake in the re-imagining of Metal Gear 1/2, we'll talk then. Well, we probably won't since I'll have moved on by then but yeah.
Vyse The Legend
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Hayter was always one of the weaker voice actors in the games. Yes, he was Snake, but Richard Doyle did an amazing job playing old Big Boss.
Graphics Horse
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Terrible things happened.