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Guerrilla Games announces Decima Engine (Death Stranding, Horizon, Killzone)
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Movalpolos
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Nice. Hopefully it's PS4 exclusive first so they can put all the time and resources into that. Should help speed up development.
My only hope comes from the man himself saying there would be a PC version. I have a PS4 but I'd rather buy any multiplat games on PC. If he goes back on his word then that's fine.
PS4 and PC are like identical so I don't think developing both would necessarily slow development.
Movalpolos
Banned
Also of note - Guerrilla's Engine code base was made originally to target both PS3 and PC, and was adapted towards PS4, which apparently wasn't all that hard:
It is - that was what the SIE EU Coms manager said - PC is later. There is no way they don't give a sizeable window between the releases imo, might be several years gap.
IcyRhythms
Member
People on GAF still need to learn the definition of begging. As if those that game on PC are marching up to the doors of Kojima Productions on their hands and knees. It's not "begging" when the game was already confirmed for PC. Until they confirm that it's no longer coming to PC, those trying to claim otherwise can STFU.
While I personally don't think it'll come to PC- and the game would be worse off for it, I don't know if people asking for confirmation on a statement saying that it was coming to PC last year really qualifies as begging. At least not when a PC version hasn't been explicitly discounted.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Until they talk about PC release directly and not in a deleted Q&A, please calm TF down.
IcyRhythms
Member
A deleted Q&A holds no relevance of any kind with no explanation as to why it was deleted. They already "directly" spoke of the PC release. Some are just trying to convince themselves it didn't happen.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Fair enough. I hope PC release happens. I know it will happen. I bet it'll look glorious, but for now it's being showcased and made for PS4. I'd love to see what Decima can do for PC, but for now its at PSX for PS4 from SIE and will be the case till 2018.
Atom Heart Mother
Banned
apologies
Movalpolos
Banned
Well this thread went to shit. Later.
robertsan21
Member
Did they mention what type of game this is?
That's all I need to know
That's all I need to know
johnnydrama
Banned
Why doesn't everyone just wait for an official update on the PC version instead of derailing the thread?
But this is a first party game no? Sony is publishing it. Will probably come to PC though, much later.
I don't know, it was brought up almost immediately and not by people asking if it would be on PC. More that people were asking (or making a case) for it being PS4 exclusive.
But like I said, if it's only on PS4 that's fine. He can go back on his original word as it's his game to do what he pleases. I have a PS4 so I'll play it regardless.
Sony courting Kojima would be a genius move. Then again SFV released on PC, so this could be a "console exclusive" deal. Would seem a little odd though considering how much first party support does seem to be involved
potatohead
Member
Please if/when they make a new Killzone with this engine go back to the gritty WW2 space war drama that the original game started with.
Would be the best. Please GG!
Would be the best. Please GG!
Jawbreaker
Member
wew lad. Kojima and PSX really ruffled some feathers.
Never doubt Shinobi, eh?
Never doubt Shinobi, eh?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Sure, but with SIE not only funding but GG and Cerny deeply involved with development, I will be surprised if it still does. If it does come PC, I would be as bold to say that its due to Kojima's wish.
AyraSutoraifu
Member
Nice...Kjima prod. is now a Dutch based studio
That'd be great as I assume the original plan to release on PC was his and not Sony's. Though they may have offered enough to kill the PC version. Shame if so.
Yeah, it's really one of those "match made in Heaven" type of deals.
I think it makes a lot of sense for Sony to have an internal middleware solution they can offer to various partners and internal studios.
You now have Guerrilla (Cambridge and Amsterdam), Kojima Productions, and Supermassive (are they still partnered with Sony?) being served by the same tech base, and I imagine they will not be the last studios to use this.
You now have Guerrilla (Cambridge and Amsterdam), Kojima Productions, and Supermassive (are they still partnered with Sony?) being served by the same tech base, and I imagine they will not be the last studios to use this.
DangerMouse
Member
They don't really need to since it's their IP, especially with their and their fan base's long history with Kojima and most of his fans for obvious reasons are console gamers. Even if Sony does still go ahead and publish it on PC it was always going to be a wait as it is Sony's game.
Maybe they're not sure if it'll take until PS5 lol
Yeah. Part of the deal since the beginning made it Sony's IP so since the beginning it was always going to be primarily positioned as a PS4/5 system seller and the game is pretty much first party and seemingly became even more so than probably originally planned given the escalation of resources Sony is providing. They'll probably work on one version at a time though they probably will do it for Kojima if that was part of the deal.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
The bit about Kojima's studio and GG collaborating on an internally developed, proprietary games engine that's Sony's intellectual property is the most surprising bit. Either Sony is going third party with that engine (very unlikely), or Kojima's new studio is geared up to join Sony and become an official first party.
Yeah right.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Decima becoming Sony's middleware for all of their internal studios would be a no brainer. But I don't see why Sony would want to share all of that proprietary software with others. Sony isn't in the middleware business, they're not going to be selling/licensing Decima to everybody with enough funds. Decima is like Frostbyte, EA's middleware engine. Only internal EA studios work with Frostbyte, but no outsiders because creating a state of the art 3D engine with the entire toolset chain is an enormously costly endeavor that's only worthwhile when it can outclass the competition. And that's why such an engine isn't shared with the outside world.
TrojanBlade
Member
KZ2 remaster with this engine GG pls!!!!!
forknknife
Banned
I also knew it but didn't want to betray my source.
I'm expecting it to be somewhat more limited than that as I don't imagine Santa Monica, Polyphony, or Naughty Dog dropping their tech stack.
I do think it's a topic that will come up whenever someone is making a new IP or a game that needs a wide variety of technology that doesn't exist in their current engine though.
I'm not sure there's a real benefit to Knack 3 being on The Knack Engine™ when Decima gets translated into Japanese for example.
GloriousBagel
Banned
It's not coming to PC.
LiquidSolid
Member
London?
But yeah, it does make a lot of sense for Sony to have something a bit more extensive than just PhyreEngine. Though I don't think Supermassive are working with Sony at the moment.
They confirmed the cancellation of the PC version mentioned last year?
That should say Amsterdam, sorry.
CrAzY FiNgErS
Member
Agree 99% without all the aggression of STFU, lol.
I am excited for this game in the context that it was earlier reported to be coming to PC. If it doesn't come like it was originally reported then, yes it will be disappointing, but I won't be getting a PS4 just for this.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
That's from nearly a year ago. A lot changes in a year. Did he even have an engine picked out at the time?
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Not saying that PS4 should get the game first, but regardless of how similar PS4 and PC are in their architecture, developing on a separate platform and making sure it has all the bells and whistles expected of a PC release absolutely would slow down development, as would any additional platforms.
Games coming late to PC a lot of the time isn't due to devs treating PC gamers like second class citizens, as much as many of them would like to think that.
Edit: Since when was Death Stranding a Sony-owned IP? I must have missed this.