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Halo 4 |OT2| TURBO
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SHIFTYkiwi
Member
It was patched out, thats why if you want to swordfly in campaign atm you need the pre patch version.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I'm pretty sad tombstone didn't make it in. Loved that map for some reason.
Still it's not the end of the world.
Still it's not the end of the world.
Its funny since modders managed to port over those 2 maps to Halo 2 vista almost perfectly even though certain necessary tags could supposedly not be properly recreated with the gimped SDK.
IIRC, the modders hacked the xbox tags into the ported maps.
NobleGundam
Banned
So I'm guessing that 343 is done with adding Campaign Theater mode altogether? =(
Oh. Was it fixed in that one grand patch that tweaked weapons or later on?
Because the MP map disc didn't include but 1.2 or so (the thing that made the weapon tweaks), and i played a lot of with that patch. Can't recall if the sword flying worked with that.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Yeah, I totally can't wait to spawn with SMGs against a team of BR wielders in power positions again.
I had basically given up on ever even playing a Halo game again. If this turns out like they say it will and the latency is bearable, it's going to be amazing.
It's also pretty amusing to see a lot of older posters come out of the woodwork for this.
So this is probably going to end up bigger than I am anticipating, but w/e.
It's safe to assume that it is CEA included in the MCC, based on the art used. We also are being heavily led to believe that the CE portion will finally have the original MP. It didn't seem like the MP maps are getting a rehaul, and it would be pretty crappy if they didn't. Also, iirc, CE MP used lockstep, so are they redoing the CE MP engine to account for the changed netcode or are they using the crappy Gearbox 56k modem netcode?
So here's where the speculation that I hinted at earlier comes in. Unless I read and interpreted it wrong, there are 6 maps that are being redone for a Halo 4-esque engine that can get close to Halo 2 styled gameplay. My guess is that they are going to an incredibly tag heavy engine(cue Gabo's moistness). This will also be what the Halo 5 beta runs on. When the time rolls around for Guardians beta, you'll simply download new tags, new gametypes, and new maps. Within the gametypes, it controls potential player actions, therefore limiting what type of gameplay the player has access to(ex: a gametype has no sliding, but a double jump enabled). Think of it like a Megalo 2.0, but not as hackjob-like.
EDIT: Will Halo 2's skulls be in the same place or will they be relocated? Will Halo 2's skulls be fully incorporated into the game, like they were originally intended to be? Will they be the same skulls as Halo 2?
Will Halo 4's terminals be viewable in-game or will I have to go to Waypoint again?
It's safe to assume that it is CEA included in the MCC, based on the art used. We also are being heavily led to believe that the CE portion will finally have the original MP. It didn't seem like the MP maps are getting a rehaul, and it would be pretty crappy if they didn't. Also, iirc, CE MP used lockstep, so are they redoing the CE MP engine to account for the changed netcode or are they using the crappy Gearbox 56k modem netcode?
So here's where the speculation that I hinted at earlier comes in. Unless I read and interpreted it wrong, there are 6 maps that are being redone for a Halo 4-esque engine that can get close to Halo 2 styled gameplay. My guess is that they are going to an incredibly tag heavy engine(cue Gabo's moistness). This will also be what the Halo 5 beta runs on. When the time rolls around for Guardians beta, you'll simply download new tags, new gametypes, and new maps. Within the gametypes, it controls potential player actions, therefore limiting what type of gameplay the player has access to(ex: a gametype has no sliding, but a double jump enabled). Think of it like a Megalo 2.0, but not as hackjob-like.
EDIT: Will Halo 2's skulls be in the same place or will they be relocated? Will Halo 2's skulls be fully incorporated into the game, like they were originally intended to be? Will they be the same skulls as Halo 2?
Will Halo 4's terminals be viewable in-game or will I have to go to Waypoint again?
Prinz Eugn
Member
Could be more optimal but 93 maps names where you only get a thumbnail once you select it would be worse.
I mean, as just an Xbox player the PC only map names mean nothing to me.
Devolution
Member
So will the multiplayer actually be like Halo this time around or...
indubitably
Member
Will there be matchmaking for every game or just Halo 2?
I would be surprised if this is the first game they really nail the playlists.
I would be surprised if this is the first game they really nail the playlists.
l Zealot l
Member
Ok trying to catch up on all the info whilst at work is a nightmare.
From what I've heard fuck yes, it's everything most of us have wanted, awesome work 343 looks exceptional.
Few questions as I'm a bit out of the loop:
1. Will CE be standard or anniversary edition?
2. Will each online MP have it's own lobby or will we have to say decide between narrows H3 and Exile H4 etc?
Halo 5: I hope MC isn't been hunted down by ONI that will suck. also was that Spartan/Agent the one who interrogated Halsey?
Dat Arby speech <3
Also;
Above is classified as a Carbine (30 rounds) below is a assault rifle variant. They all have similar looks Until it's confirmed who knows what it is. Hopefully it's a assault rifle variant and not a BR (no ADS pls 343 you've come this far).
If it is a scopleless BR then hopefully it's just been integrated into the HUD which would make sense.
From what I've heard fuck yes, it's everything most of us have wanted, awesome work 343 looks exceptional.
Few questions as I'm a bit out of the loop:
1. Will CE be standard or anniversary edition?
2. Will each online MP have it's own lobby or will we have to say decide between narrows H3 and Exile H4 etc?
Halo 5: I hope MC isn't been hunted down by ONI that will suck. also was that Spartan/Agent the one who interrogated Halsey?
Dat Arby speech <3
Also;
It looks exactly like a BR
I know its two different spartans here, but both have no visiors on their BR
Above is classified as a Carbine (30 rounds) below is a assault rifle variant. They all have similar looks Until it's confirmed who knows what it is. Hopefully it's a assault rifle variant and not a BR (no ADS pls 343 you've come this far).
If it is a scopleless BR then hopefully it's just been integrated into the HUD which would make sense.
lol!!!
Y'all sneaking DotA 2 in there some where? Only way that'd happen.
So uh, is the Ascension gameplay all we're getting to see right now?
NobleGundam
Banned
*Drools at speculation*
Waypoint only for all terminals based on the waypoint site I just read, but idk about CEA.
Hopefully. It seems like it so far
nillapuddin
Member
pretty sure I saw an extras tab on the UI with a section for terminals in that IGN video
If you can't beat them, repackage and resell them.
I was willing to pay $60 just for Halo CE mp online.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
8v8 KotH Chiron TL-34.
There are those who said this day.. etc. etc.
There are those who said this day.. etc. etc.
User 73706
Banned
I hope we can make multiplayer playlists for HaloGAF custom game nights. It'll be great getting to finally force people to enjoy Chiron with me.
il Diavolo
Banned
Seriously. My only regret is the existence of the collection being leaked. While the breadth of content revealed was a surprise regardless, I would've probably shit myself had I not seen it coming at all.
Still, bravo 343. This is well beyond what I had expected.
HaloGAF custom game nights are going to be amazing.
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Also;
Above is classified as a Carbine (30 rounds) below is a assault rifle variant. They all have similar looks Until it's confirmed who knows what it is. Hopefully it's a assault rifle variant and not a BR (no ADS pls 343 you've come this far).
If it is a scopleless BR then hopefully it's just been integrated into the HUD which would make sense.
I guess that makes sense. Haven't read the comics so I had no idea.
The probably just based in on the PC version.
Which makes is really weird that the button glitches are in, I thought those were patched out in that version (unless I'm wrong and that was just superbounces). Why go through the effort of adding those back in?
User 73706
Banned
I don't know why, but I'm having a really hard time believing the Master Chief collection is going to work for some reason. Maybe I'm just being overly cynical after Halo 4's release and support (I loved CEA), but it just seems like there's still so much with it that could potentially go wrong.
Only superbouncing was fixed in PC. If superbouncing is somehow back in, then they explicitly added it back in (if H2A is based off the PC codebase)
Yep, would have been unreal had it not been leaked. But the fact that it surpass even my wildest expectations is enough to excite me greatly.
So are all of H2's maps remade in the new engine, or only the 6? So there will be some Halo 2 maps that look like 2004?
FatMarshall
Neo Member
For Halo: MCC, how will file sharing work? Ranks? Armor customization for every game mode? Will Halo 4's campaign finally have a theater mode?
So many questions, all unanswered.
So many questions, all unanswered.
l Zealot l
Member
1. Will CE be standard or anniversary edition?
2. Will each online MP have it's own lobby or will we have to say decide between narrows H3 and Exile H4 etc?
3. What's happening with ranks?
I imagine gravemind will look insane
2. Will each online MP have it's own lobby or will we have to say decide between narrows H3 and Exile H4 etc?
3. What's happening with ranks?
I imagine gravemind will look insane
Ah this is a good question, especially the thing about armor.
My mistake, that makes sense then. Yeah no way is superbouncing gonna be in. Stuff like BXB and doubleshotting you can kind of make an argument for, but there's no way in hell they'd willingly let people launch themselves up to the top of Lockout or whatever.
YourExWife
Member
Quickdraw CTF on Settler. Actually...fun? Holy balls, I never thought I'd see the day where that map would be enjoyable. Probably because the gametype removes all the stupid Halo 4 bullshit. Weirdddd......
FatMarshall
Neo Member
I feel like it's going to be a bit awkward seeing Halo 5 gameplay before Halo: Master Chief Collection launches. It's bound to happen of course since Halo: MCC launches only a month before the Halo 5 beta, but still.
I'd probably bet around later, like August-October.
I am going to make so many .GIFs come Halo 2 Anniversary....
With 1080p 60, all the clips can go slow mo kind of like those 120fps ones and Motion-Blur Interpolated/Blended ones I made a long time ago:
If theatre mode can interpolate the animations above the framelimit like COD's theatre mode can, then it'll be even better.
I imagine since Halo 1's animations were locked at 30, the new version will have uncapped the animation FPS, or at least moved it up to 60fps.
Halo 2 Vista doesn't have the animation problem, so if it gets theatre we may have infinitly interpolated time steps (fingers crossed)
Halo 3 and 4's animation cap is unknown above 30, but they both shipped @ 30fps and will now be playing 60fps, so I wonder how that will play out.
I wonder how the physics will compare across the new and old versions?
With 1080p 60, all the clips can go slow mo kind of like those 120fps ones and Motion-Blur Interpolated/Blended ones I made a long time ago:
If theatre mode can interpolate the animations above the framelimit like COD's theatre mode can, then it'll be even better.
I imagine since Halo 1's animations were locked at 30, the new version will have uncapped the animation FPS, or at least moved it up to 60fps.
Halo 2 Vista doesn't have the animation problem, so if it gets theatre we may have infinitly interpolated time steps (fingers crossed)
Halo 3 and 4's animation cap is unknown above 30, but they both shipped @ 30fps and will now be playing 60fps, so I wonder how that will play out.
I wonder how the physics will compare across the new and old versions?
I really hope they come to PC though. 1080p60 is great, I would love to play it in Nvidia surround on my 3x1080p screens in 120fps....
So is the updated Halo 2 stuff, just Halo 2 game play/maps recreated in Halo 4? I hate the fact that medals are the poor Halo 4 versions, or that stuff like first strike, avenger and other text clutters the screen.
Edit: Also, the monks were used quite a bit today, would hate if they're not in Halo 5 guardians. Ends up being some other new wailing. Either way, I actually feel like buying an Xbox one now, but I'm hoping for some kind of bundle.
Edit: Also, the monks were used quite a bit today, would hate if they're not in Halo 5 guardians. Ends up being some other new wailing. Either way, I actually feel like buying an Xbox one now, but I'm hoping for some kind of bundle.
I'm also in this boat. I'd like to see the on the fly swapping going on before I fall in love with the idea of it.
I'd be willing to take a bet it's exactly like running Halo PC @ 60FPS, with the 60fps "world" and the 30fps animations for everything else.
Don't plan on buying a Xbone just for CE MP sadly, unless I come upon enough money to get a PS4, another 1or 2 TB HDD, SSD and new monitor, then maybe after all that I can try getting a Xbone.
Definitely killer package, but it's still a $500 investment just to play Halo CE MP online, not rolling in money that hard to justify the purchase.
You think they'll port over the 56k netcode too?
I think its pretty possible the animation, physics systems could be upgraded.
All that stuff feeds into how your game gets replicated, no? So, if they upgrade the netcode, which I think is highly likely, the other systems seem like they'd have to get some attention too...
Hang 'em High rockets, my favorite lunch past time in school, 1v1. You down? Or 4v4, anyone else down?
Edit: that's rocks and shottys only
. Best 1v1s I ever played local. CE FTWI also hope to see much more of how it all works soon. I also hope they're making a lot of ViDoc's abiut this all. The development for this collection, for Halo 5 guardians. After today, I honestly don't even care about Destiny, all I'm thinking about is possibly playing Halo CE, 2, 3 and the Halo 5 beta by the end of the year.
gAg CruSh3r
Member
I feel the same. Destiny has no hype compare to Halo IMO.
It depends. I think it's feasible they just port Halo PC's netcode - after all, all the work was done already to provide dedicated server functionality. If they do, Halo Xbox only players are going to get introduced to the hit-sound mechanic and variable leading based off your latency.
On the other hand, they have to roll new code to provide Halo 3 and 4 dedicated servers (Halo 2 would inherit that work from H2PC), so it's possible they rolled new netcode for Halo 1.
@Fyre: Dude, the way your making it sound, (and it is a slightly nervous possibility) the game would be so inconsistent in terms of netcode and controller response (add to that the lockstep campaign and Spartan OPs networking) that I think there almost no way that their coding/porting would be so uninvolved.
Imagine how jarring a cross game playlist would be!?
They are directly touting their new framerate and networking in their ads and on the back of their box, I think a lot of the games will have mostly redone code for the relevant systems.
Did you watch the IGN interview? Frank addressed the issue of super-bouncing specifically with the show's hosts. He said it was an issue with the specific version of Havoc they had at the time. (It's been my understanding that for the PC version, Havok got updated to a newer version since the PC was better able to store more of the BSP over the chunked up stuff they had streaming in in Halo 2 for OG Xbox, and this was the reason bouncing no longer worked)
Its not clear if Frank was referring to the 6 new H2A maps or the upressed classic H2 maps, but he said that the bounces supposedly may not transfer 1 to 1 anyway. (if they're even still mostly there,)
IIRC, the PAL and NTSC versions of Halo 2 had different bounces because of the difference in framerate. This kinds stuff would probably change quite a bit again with them updating for 60fps (which, incidentally, should give them a lot of opportunities for improving the feeling of netcode and responsiveness through things like higher tick rates and update rates for the physics system)
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Speaking of cross game playlists, I hope I can Bumper Jump across all 4 games....
Imagine how jarring a cross game playlist would be!?
They are directly touting their new framerate and networking in their ads and on the back of their box, I think a lot of the games will have mostly redone code for the relevant systems.
Did you watch the IGN interview? Frank addressed the issue of super-bouncing specifically with the show's hosts. He said it was an issue with the specific version of Havoc they had at the time. (It's been my understanding that for the PC version, Havok got updated to a newer version since the PC was better able to store more of the BSP over the chunked up stuff they had streaming in in Halo 2 for OG Xbox, and this was the reason bouncing no longer worked)
Its not clear if Frank was referring to the 6 new H2A maps or the upressed classic H2 maps, but he said that the bounces supposedly may not transfer 1 to 1 anyway. (if they're even still mostly there,)
IIRC, the PAL and NTSC versions of Halo 2 had different bounces because of the difference in framerate. This kinds stuff would probably change quite a bit again with them updating for 60fps (which, incidentally, should give them a lot of opportunities for improving the feeling of netcode and responsiveness through things like higher tick rates and update rates for the physics system)
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Speaking of cross game playlists, I hope I can Bumper Jump across all 4 games....