Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Man, it's just one big downer fest in here.
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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
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Luckily, I don't have as many problems with the multiplayer as Overdoziz does. My main problem is with the CTF return times (30 seconds? You can run across Abandoned in 5). I've never been serious about Halo MP though, and it's just dumb fun as far as I'm concerned.
Still have the same complaints I had about the campaign though.
Still have the same complaints I had about the campaign though.
Devolution
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Yeah JIP should really have some algorithms going to prevent joining a game where the outcome is already decided by a wide margin.
ViewtifulJC
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ElRenoRaven
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Haven't looked into forge online or even went into it in-game yet, but I'm guessing that's a colossal disappointment as well?
Meh, didn't expect anything good from Certain Affinity anyway.
Zeouterlimits
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I've seen plenty of positive and negative posts, I don't see the problem.
i nerini del buio
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They are not from COD, but they follow the same principles. Random stuff to give less experienced players a chance to survive longer than 15 seconds and keep them engaged.
I mean, what's the purpose of flinching from a game design perspective other than to even the playing field? I know it, you know it, Frankie knows it. You don't need to PM him to let him know flinching is crap. They already knew and decided to put it in the game anyway.
Or just a simple option that has you not join games in progress.
Yep. It's really disconcerting. And as for MP, there's cause for alarm when every gametype feels like a Fiesta or Heavies game type.
scar tissue
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ElRenoRaven
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Yup. Even something as simple as that would solve most of the problems with that.
It just gets incredibly tiring when each Halo game released is loaded with frustrating game mechanics. They fix things from one game but then add in some other completely uneccessary crap or change something else for no reason. Can't we just have a solid Halo game with predictable core mechanics, balanced weapons and fast-paced gameplay?
Yeah it is; Halo 3 is terrible.
Yeah it is; Halo 3 is terrible.
We survived Reach. We can survive this until Halo 5!
StalkerUKCG
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The P of Poland
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Actually, the only problem I ever had with H3 was the netcode and its attendant flaws. Reach was terrible.
4 trends more toward Reach than 3, and that's a problem.
As for "a small group of people", it's not a small amount of people on here, and it's not just on here at all. Go check the Waypoint forums (if you can even find them after 343 fucked the site up even more), I'd be willing to bet money that there's a tsunami building there as well.
So far Spartan Ops is not a worthy replacement for Firefight. And if the following episodes and missions follow the same pattern then I hope they don't bother with a second season. Use that manpower on fixing Halo 4 and/or on making Halo 5 feature rich like Halo 3 and Reach were.
Hell, I wish I could swap the gameplay of Halo 4 right into Reach's wrapper (UI, campaign theater, proper sound effects, proper weapon spawns, etc). That would be an awesome game. That's what I was hoping Halo 4 was going to be.
Hell, I wish I could swap the gameplay of Halo 4 right into Reach's wrapper (UI, campaign theater, proper sound effects, proper weapon spawns, etc). That would be an awesome game. That's what I was hoping Halo 4 was going to be.
Exactly, it's in this instance, where we can balance the good and the bad opposite each other that we get a clearer overall impression of the game. Some people are just getting shirty at criticism, which shouldn't surprise anyone. I personally think criticism's healthy for the maintainance and development of both this game and the franchise.
Perhaps if those who shrugged off criticism pre-release and ignorantly suggested people 'play the game first', when the arguments made were strong enough to not have to rely on such a determiner (UI, for example), we'd have a better game now, or perhaps that's idealistic.
ElRenoRaven
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I don't think it will die. As some of us move on others will come in. Most of us will remain just because this is a community we love. We'll just lurk more or focus on the stuff we still like.
Hydranockz
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The wraith can fire waaaaay to close in front of itself.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
That's what worries me the most. I have zero confidence in the future of the Halo video game franchise as of today.
scar tissue
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The fuck is this? Halo 3 was the peak, both in campaign (scarab fights, the ark, the covenant,...) and MP. Although Halo 2 was probably better in MP in some aspects.
The P of Poland
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BigShow thinks the strafe was too slow, thus hampering the individual players effectiveness. This trumps all.
Sorry BigShow.
BeekleMatter
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I don't agree with these two things.
I HATED scoping out when getting hit. What kind of super soldier scopes out and stands up when they take a bullet? And I would always accidently rescope in the get scoped out and get all frazzled. I died thousands of times because of scoping out. I'm so glad that it is gone and flinch is here.
I also like the UI. I got so tired of the vertical list, it's nice to see something new and fresh. I got a little confused by clicking the LS to do some things because it isn't very clearly labeled, but I love looking at all the player models in lobbies and what not. Definitely something cool and new.
Otherwise, you pretty much got it right. 343 just has a few things to clean up and this game will shine.
The peak of shittiness, sure.
The strafe WAS too slow. Plus the BR's spread gave it an effective range of 20 yards and within that range it was still random. Weapon variety was terrible too.
HigherLevel
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I'm hoping Destiny is as epic as Halo used to be because the more I play 4 the less hope I have for the future of the series.
Also, two questions I'd like everyone to answer.
1. Which of the 360 Halo games was the least like Call of Duty?
2. Which of the 360 Halo games sold the most?
hint: both questions have the same answer
Halo 3 has its fair share of problems, but I went back to it yesterday and it was a like a breath of a fresh air after just having played Halo 4. It's so much more simplistic than the uncontrollable chaos that ensues during Halo 4 matches and I loved it.
too much eslim
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So it looks like 343 has lost some members of HaloGaf. it sucks that Bungie made Reach. We would probably have a different game if that didn't happen. If Halo 5 is not greatly better than Halo 4 I fear the future of Halo.
343 went after the COD crowd instead of the Halo crowd. I know people who prefer COD enjoy this game a lot more so they succeeded, but they are losing the Halo crowd. Not good 343.
343 went after the COD crowd instead of the Halo crowd. I know people who prefer COD enjoy this game a lot more so they succeeded, but they are losing the Halo crowd. Not good 343.
My main issue with Halo 3 were lame weapons like the Assault Rifle and dual-wields and the maps. A lot of them were pretty bad. Otherwise, great game! I wish Halo 4 was more similar to it.
Pop
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Yea and No
Some of these "complaints" have no merit and sounds more like straight attack towards H4 and 343i for that matter. Over really named off everything in H4, come on now.
Don't plan on it.
This place is seriously depressing right now. My thought is I think you guys overly complaining are seriously nuts. I'm having literally no problems besides JIP with H4 and I'm loving this game. My mind is full of wtf right now from this forum. I'm literally speechless from what is going on in here.
Edit: Hell, I like simple gameplay. I'm sure all of us do here. I much rather have H2/H3 style gameplay with H4 core mechanics. But H4 only has minor tweaks that could make this something great. It's only been a week. For the past year all I have been reading about on here was how terrible Reach was you still continued to play that garbage. There's no way that Reach comes close to H4.
Under the exact design trajectory I feel the same.
The team needs clarity, it needs to double down on what Halo actually is. The people they hired can't actually be that passionate about 'Halo', because this goes against Halo's core principles so vociferously. There's a number of core changes in the game that, if actual passionate Halo fans were on the team, just wouldn't all have survived. I'd be really eager to see the minutes of some of the early design meetings, and the justification for some of this stuff.
Ordnance, player and weapon spawning, and the unlock system specifically.
too much eslim
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But Bungie made Reach. They started this mess.
Who will all leave in two days?
Guys, at the core we have a great game, it is just we have a very rotten apple. Hopefully 343 can sort out the orchard for Halo 5.
scar tissue
Banned
To give 343 some credit, they did solve the nade spam problem. Making grenade pickup a perk was a great idea.
And the maps flow pretty well, I like them so far.
And the griefing/trolling potential is endless. Teammate in a firefight? Throw oddball at him, he picks it up and dies.
Enemy coming at you? Thrwow oddball at him and kill him.
And the maps flow pretty well, I like them so far.
And the griefing/trolling potential is endless. Teammate in a firefight? Throw oddball at him, he picks it up and dies.
Enemy coming at you? Thrwow oddball at him and kill him.
Hydranockz
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Steitzer doesn't even announce headshots. Of all the examples you could have picked you somehow get it wrong :lol
Rickenslacker
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While people who have complaints have, y'know, points as to why they're complaining, it's better to just have a discussion based on those instead of just saying "you guys are complaining, you should never have dissenting opinion about anything". 'Cause it's a non-post that might as well be saying "lolol salt guise".
Devolution
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This is much too Chicken Little for my tastes. I rock this game, most of the time, even with all of the ordinances, PV what have you utilized by others and I don't have shit. If there were some playlists that catered to a stripped down gametype I'd be set. Maybe it's time people non-enthused with the game finally organize themselves into customs. The attendance is always strong in the beginning and then it inevitably drops off.
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