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Hellblades permadeath is a bluff - PCGamesN
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ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
I wonder how much testing and thought they went into the permadeath stuff?
Sounds like what happens on NeoGAF.
Sounds like what happens on NeoGAF.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Wait, wait. How is now knowing that the save file deleting is a bluff not a bad thing?
I haven't looked at Totalbiscuit's particular position. As you describe it, it sounds dumb. But even if his opinion was dumb, it seems weird to "blame" him for someone else investigating an interesting and controversial mechanic and thus "ruining" it.
If someone's pissed about the spoiler, people should blame the people posting unmarked spoilers.
dugdug
Banned
I gotta be honest, this was a major selling point for me. I was on the fence and waiting for reviews, and, while the reviews were promising enough, this extra mechanic finally sold me on it, so I just bought it.
And now I read this.
Like, I'm sure it won't affect the game that much, but, jesus christ, is it too much to ask critics to try stuff like this before posting about it?
And now I read this.
Like, I'm sure it won't affect the game that much, but, jesus christ, is it too much to ask critics to try stuff like this before posting about it?
TheSpoiler
Member
You definitely feel some sort of way about this huh
SomedayTheFire
Member
Heh kinda what I was going for. Could imagine some ridiculous backlash if it was released on steam, though.
The internet has seriously fucked up today.
stanislavskov
Banned
There is nothing wrong with permadeath, and there is nothing wrong with the way Hellblade handles game over states.
People gotta stop confusing things they dont like with things that are broken.
People gotta stop confusing things they dont like with things that are broken.
Jawbreaker
Member
Well, there goes some of the tension I was anticipating. : /
I Wish I still thought it was legitimate.
I Wish I still thought it was legitimate.
There are dozens. As in 50% of every indie game for the last couple years.
Are you using the word "Broken" because of the Jim Sterling thing? That was for another topic (which was actually a game-breaking bug).
These are two different topics.
Chronospherics
Member
Isn't this quite a big spoiler? I'm disappointed. I wanted to at least play it thinking it had more dire consequences...
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
It's in the game.
So now we have people that think this feature was changed because of TB and Jim.S? Oh my...
Still getting a lot of drive by posts that believe this isn't a real feature now. Watch the video, or at least listen to it. After that read through the thread a bit please. It's still in the game... Just not like everyone expects it would work.
Still getting a lot of drive by posts that believe this isn't a real feature now. Watch the video, or at least listen to it. After that read through the thread a bit please. It's still in the game... Just not like everyone expects it would work.
This. The whole point of it being a bluff (or at least very hard to actually 'permadie') is that you don't know about it.
gunstarhero
Member
That sort of sucks the wind out of buying this game for me. Would have been really awesome for the devs to really delete your file after too many deaths... the game is short enough where it wouldn't really bother me, and it adds a bit of charm to the game.
Yeah - the internet really sucks sometimes.
Yeah - the internet really sucks sometimes.
I have zero interest in buying it soon now. Thanks game industry people who played the game early and decided to blabber about it RELEASE day.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Very very nice. I like the game even more.
NO GAME has to do this ever (in the proper meaning). No current game. 8 bit and 16 bit days are a long time over.
NO GAME has to do this ever (in the proper meaning). No current game. 8 bit and 16 bit days are a long time over.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
It was never going to remain a secret.
What a bummer. Shame clickbaiters had to go out of their way to ruin it for everyone
Following that logic i might as well put a bunch of Game of Thrones spoilers in this post.
lol no.
Roguelikes and arcadestyle games like shmups etc basically are entirely designed around this, It's just a different style of game.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Games like Super Meat Boy and The Binding Of Isaac are meant to be 'hardcorely unplayable'. So a permadeath in them isn't something unexpected.
Some twitch streamer would have figured it out day 1.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Not even comparable.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Because all of us go on streams to watch a game that we were going to play sooner or later.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Why would people even give Totalbiscuit the time of day anymore?
Dude's a moron that was whining about a feature in a game he didn't even play. 
Lee Chaolan
Member
Boo the the spoilery topic.
but, some people are saying it's still a thing? you just have to die like...a LOT?
but, some people are saying it's still a thing? you just have to die like...a LOT?
Static Veins
Member
Wow so it was all a ruse in order to enhance paranoia? That's a really incredible approach to portraying the character's psychosis.
And now I'm actually feeling pretty pissed off that people pissing and moaning over permadeath means it's been spoiled. That would have been a great reveal.
And now I'm actually feeling pretty pissed off that people pissing and moaning over permadeath means it's been spoiled. That would have been a great reveal.
TheSpoiler
Member
It was figured out yesterday lol.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
If there was actual permadeath, it would be widely publicized and brought up in every discussion of the game.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Nice to be spoiled right before sitting down to start the game. Thanks.
But...Super Meat Boy has near-instant respawn, and the The Binding of Isaac is really pretty easy.
There's nothing wrong with the mechanic in principle anyway.
That said I get that people don't expect permadeath in a more story based game, which is why I already assumed it was going to be very forgiving anyway, but it would be nice if people had the courtesy to not spoil this for others, because the game clearly intends to use for atmospheric reasons to make you feel in more danger that you actually are.
BossDarkseid
Member
Even if reviewers blasted through all the Automata endings i feel there reviews would be "What the fuck just happened!?"
If it was a ruse to enhance paranoia and work with some themes of the game...it's a shame some felt inclined to ruin the surprise : / Like if it would have played a part in enhancing the themes around which the game was so designed, it'd suck for the people for whom the game would be cathartic in some fashion.
Brat-Sampson
Member
This has been the biggest damn clusterfuck I've seen in ages, and none of it has been the dev's fault.
Fucking internet...
SMH
Fucking internet...
SMH
What a fucking cunt.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Why would people even give Totalbiscuit the time of day anymore?
Entitled gamergater.
KZXcellent
Member
What year is it?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Didn't know he changed his stance, did he?