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Mozzarella
Member
I have a feeling this game will score very well, but will not sell well.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
What?
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
As a graphics whore, this character model is all I need to get hyped.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
They're treating this like it's Halo back when it was actually popular. But it makes sense when you literally have nothing else of note.
bender
What time is it?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
GymWolf
Gold Member
You don't stick your dick into crazy titties.
GymWolf
Gold Member
How the fuck did they forget fable? Arguably the most important exclusive of the bunch.Quick Google search so maybe there's a more up to date or better answer but here's this:
Senua’s Saga: Hellblade II
Here's the full list of all the upcoming Xbox exclusives
With Microsoft gearing up for its 2024 Xbox Games Showcase, we've refreshed and updated our list of all the upcoming Xbox exclusives for 2024 and beyond!www.trueachievements.com
Dungeons of Hinterberg
Stalker 2: Heart of Chornobyl
Avowed
Ara: History Untold
Towerborne
33 Immortals
Replaced
Sopa
Dead Static Drive
Ark 2
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
Age of Mythology Retold
So Stalker 2 (if it comes), Avowed, and Indiana Jones.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Does it have a release date? I wouldn't be the least surprised if it were reported to go through development hell, etc.
GymWolf
Gold Member
The protagonist is a mentally ill woman, there is no way this thing doesn't resonate well with the modern media.
At the very minimum they are all gonna praise the story, atmosphere and production values.
I can see gameplay centric youtubers demolishing this thing into oblivion tho.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Yeah but still, the game has a certain name value and the guys behind forza are probably the most talented first party that M has between fucking 343 and coalition (not counting the acquired first parties like id etc.)
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panda-zebra
Banned
BbMajor7th
Gold Member
Microsoft reading the mock reviews for this back in March:
balls of snow
Member
Its for 2024 releases.
Hellblade 2 will probably score low to mid 80. Problem is ms are oblivious to walking sims so internal reviews would be...why would anyone play this.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
You lost me here my friend.
I mean, I like Halo 4 for what they did with the game visually on X360 - god tier job for such an outdated hardware, but they didn't make a single game of their own to be worthy of such praise. Shit, it's been 17 years since they were founded and all they did for all these years was Halo stuff and nothing else, for 17 years, and none of the new games they made were breakout hits or memorable in any way. I am not saying they should be closed or somethin', god forbid, but the way I see it, they're not the best M has when it comes to 1st parties. I'd say there's only The Coalition and no one else at this point.
The saddest part about it all is that MS will never let 343 make what they really want to make, just like Activision did with a lot of their studios. I don't believe for a second that they didn't want to make something other than HALO for at least the last 10 years or so.
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
"While Sony's last exclusive offers you a shallow and denigrating experience representing women as a can-collecting slut, NT beautifully depicts what it feels like being a brave woman tormented by the maddening echoes of Patriarchy"
Killjoy-NL
Member
Meh, Heavenly Sword and Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice were though.
Two of my all-time favorites.
GymWolf
Gold Member
I think you got it wrong, i think 343 are mid af, like coalition.
Forza guys are the best devs that M has, and i don't even give a fuck about racing games.
StereoVsn
Member
Forza Horizon - yes. Forza Motorsport - hell no, judging by their latest which took like 7-8 years to release.
nemiroff
Gold Member
I'm just commenting on a superficial notion from SOME people here that all games supposedly should stick to tropes and caricatures. I for one prefer the three-dimensional "modern" take on mental health over the past 2D trope of everyone sticking out in society was a "crazy person" thus worthless. "Let's throw this person into the mental asylum, surgically remove half their brain and see how long they can survive as a vegetable" used to work well in the past for all the wrong reasons. Point is, Hellblade just told a relatively realistic depiction of how this particular person with this particular mental health issue dealt with this particular story. It's a pretty interesting and fresh no-BS angle for many of us, and it was one of Hellblade's definite strong sides (puzzles and combat, not so much IMO..).
But anyway, yeah: Microsoft is not good at PR, who would've thunk.. Among a lot of competence, there are also a surprising amount of incompetence.
But it's not like they are completely lost. F.ex., Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 (one of the best pieces of entertainment/sim software out there IMO) was marketed very efficiently, including even successfully expanding the demographic at a time when all hope in MSFS was non-existent. They've also serviced the sim community extremely well.
So, yeah..
But anyway, yeah: Microsoft is not good at PR, who would've thunk.. Among a lot of competence, there are also a surprising amount of incompetence.
But it's not like they are completely lost. F.ex., Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 (one of the best pieces of entertainment/sim software out there IMO) was marketed very efficiently, including even successfully expanding the demographic at a time when all hope in MSFS was non-existent. They've also serviced the sim community extremely well.
So, yeah..
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
Here's a take on all this:
Really fucking hard to promote a game about a central female protagonist with mental health issues, when you're a company that's stoked culture war bullshit for so long, and encouraged toxicity on social media.
Not the best environment to avoid controversy with your scaled up AA game, you fuck knuckles.
Really fucking hard to promote a game about a central female protagonist with mental health issues, when you're a company that's stoked culture war bullshit for so long, and encouraged toxicity on social media.
Not the best environment to avoid controversy with your scaled up AA game, you fuck knuckles.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Well, now I see that
I don't agree with you when it comes to The Coalition, but let me explain where I am coming from.
I've played Gears 4 first before Gears 5 was released.... and it's just as boring and blad design and combat wise as the first Gears game. It felt like it was their first game ever and that they're stuck somewhere in the late 2000s. I forced myself to beat this game, cuz I don't like the design and combat encounters at all and that's why I won't ever play it again. But then came Gears 5 with much better gunplay, more focus on aggressive combat with more options in what you can do and much better, more open and organic level-design overall. It was such a drastic contrast to the first game they've made that I couldn't believe it was the same team. I mean, it's not perfect and I've some small issues with it, but it's so much better than Gears 4 that they don't even matter. I love this game to death, which I never thought I'd say about a Gears game, ever. The story about Kait and how they showed Marcus and stuff is also a highlight of Gears 5 for me, not to mention that they offered a choice at some point in the story which I never thought I'd see in a Gears game.
Can't wait to play Gears 6, it's my most anticipated MS game after Hellblade II.
I love the 4th Forza Horizon, but I think they can do a lot better and they didn't with the 5th one, which is basically the same as the last one minus better visuals. Idk what to think about Fable, only time will tell, but I hope that they'll capture the magic of both 1st and the 2nd game (the best in the series for me), that is MS will even let them finish it, it'll see the light of the day and won't get cancelled. I hope FH6 will be much different from 4 and 5, I don't want to play basically the same game again, it needs to be different in a lot more ways than one but at the same time retain all the best parts of the series.
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vaibhavpisal
Member
I am in the opposite camp.
Gimme Hellblade combat, double the amount and complexity of puzzles, I would gladly play that.
Mental illness, I would rather read about it than experience first hand in a video game.
Dazraell
Member
Plot twist: Voices Senua hears are her shoved in versions from other games lol
Sorcerer
Member
I hear in the next game she will be haunted/scarred from playing Redfall.
Dazraell
Member
I originally wanted to make a joke that she hears Xbox marketing team, but this would mean she wouldn't hear anything
GymWolf
Gold Member
Good for you dude, i thought gears 4 was kinda terrible but somehow i managed to finish it but i didn't lasted more than 2 acts in gears 5 even if it is probably a better game than 4, the samey-ness got in pretty quickly.Well, now I see that
I don't agree with you when it comes to The Coalition, but let me explain where I am coming from.
I've played Gears 4 first before Gears 5 was released.... and it's just as boring and blad design and combat wise as the first Gears game. It felt like it was their first game ever and that they're stuck somewhere in the late 2000s. I forced myself to beat this game, cuz I don't like the design and combat encounters at all and that's why I won't ever play it again. But then came Gears 5 with much better gunplay, more focus on aggressive combat with more options in what you can do and much better, more open and organic level-design overall. It was such a drastic contrast to the first game they've made that I couldn't believe it was the same team. I mean, it's not perfect and I've some small issues with it, but it's so much better than Gears 4 that they don't even matter. I love this game to death, which I never thought I'd say about a Gears game, ever. The story about Kait and how they showed Marcus and stuff is also a highlight of Gears 5 for me, not to mention that they offered a choice at some point in the story which I never thought I'd see in a Gears game.
Can't wait to play Gears 6, it's my most anticipated MS game after Hellblade II.
I love the 4th Forza Horizon, but I think they can do a lot better and they didn't with the 5th one, which is basically the same as the last one minus better visuals. Idk what to think about Fable, only time will tell, but I hope that they'll capture the magic of both 1st and the 2nd game (the best in the series for me), that is MS will even let them finish it, it'll see the light of the day and won't get cancelled. I hope FH6 will be much different from 4 and 5, I don't want to play basically the same game again, it needs to be different in a lot more ways than one but at the same time retain all the best parts of the series.
The new cast is dogshit and i don't care about the general plot at all, the gunplay hasn't improved enough and i never really liked the gunplay of the gears games that much (not the mechanics like aim, cover etc. But the part when bullets actually hit enemies etc.), i really dislike their gore system and the open world section in 5 was terrible, and i'm a dude that would buy a dry horse shit if it's wrapped in an open world.
Also, and i can't stress this enough, i think the locusts and all their cast of enemies with very few exception like the brumak or the explosive archer that are kinda iconic are some of the lamest enemies in gaming history and i particularly care about charismatic\quality enemies in a game.
They were fine in the first gears that i still consider the best game in the franchise by far, but not good enough for 6 fucking games.
I have zero hype for g6 unless they do a gow2018 overhaul, but i have no faith in coalition to do any of this and to double down with fucking kat
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King Dazzar
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Banjo64
Funny as fuck mate. Just as I was entering the thread. I thought it would be hilarious if all it was, was the 6 second vid they tweeted the other day. Literally just 6 seconds. It's almost as though they don't want to show anyone the game...
Now why would that be.
When you think of marketing, what comes to your mind?
Like, what are they not doing that you think they should.
They're already doing hands-on previews, ads on youtube, TV services etc. Are you looking for giant adverts on the sides of busses?
Legit question.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Lets say MS spends $10M on marketing.
So the ratio is about $5M per hour of actual gameplay?
So the ratio is about $5M per hour of actual gameplay?
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
What, no one here liked Heavenly Sword? It used SIXAXIS tech brehs.
StereoVsn
Member
I think folks are surprised it’s coming in so late.
On the other hand, this isn’t really a game that can carry Xbox software division. At the end it’s going to be a fairly niche title.
I also think there is going to be a lot of unrealistic pressure for the game to be a blockbuster on MS side.
saintjules
Member
Not only that, it was the first game revealed alongside the Series X at TGA 2019. I'd hope to be a big deal to some extent.
saintjules
Member
Hugare
Member
You notice how big of a mess MS is when Greenberg still has a job there after years of incompetence
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I don't agree with a lot of your points but yes, I also think that after Gears 6 the next game must be completely different story-wise as well as in terms of gameplay. We'll see if MS will even let that happen, but somehow I highly doubt it.Good for you dude, i thought gears 4 was kinda terrible but somehow i managed to finish it but i didn't lasted more than 2 acts in gears 5 even if it is probably a better game than 4, the samey-ness got in pretty quickly.
The new cast is dogshit and i don't care about the general plot at all, the gunplay hasn't improved enough and i never really liked the gunplay of the gears games that much (not the mechanics like aim, cover etc. But the part when bullets actually hit enemies etc.), i really dislike their gore system and the open world section in 5 was terrible, and i 'm dude that would buy a dry horse shit if it's wrapped in an open world.
Also, and i can't stress this enough, i think the locusts and all their cast of enemies with very few exception like the brumak or the explosive archer that are kinda iconic are some of the lamest enemies in gaming history and i particularly care about charismatic\quality enemies in a game.
They were fine in the first gears that i still consider the best game in the franchise by far, but not good enough for 6 fucking games.
I have zero hype for g6 unless they do a gow2018 overhaul, but i have no faith in coalition to do any of this and to double down with fucking kat
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King Dazzar
Member
A month ago I saw some short preview footage. Since then I haven't seen anything new. And then we had a tweet saying they'd be going all in, with just a 6 second trailer. Maybe I just dont sub to the right channels anymore.... they could've released a demo, that'd get some interest for sure. And gameplay feedback would have definitely got onto my radar...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, the one thing I'll agree with is that the marketing is pretty late but looks like they're doing about the game thing most games would in terms of adverts etc.
They're going all the usual stuff most games would, tv/social media ads, and we did have hands on previews a few days ago too.
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Mephisto40
Member
Try not to break the bank too much Microsoft, jesus
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
Maybe instead of buying ABK, they should better fund their games and not send them to die with poor marketing and quite frankly lower standards of quality.
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