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In Japan, Knack 2 debuts at less than 1% of its predecessor
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Weskerlover
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Where does the term Rabbits Land come from? Is it reffering to the videogame by Ubi?
Either the original Knack is a horrendous game or nobody played it in Japan when they got it fo free with their Playstation.
Either the original Knack is a horrendous game or nobody played it in Japan when they got it fo free with their Playstation.
KillerMan91
Member
It was bundled with every launch PS4.
Glass Rebel
Member
It's definitely the former plus a bit of the latter.
Jacknapes
Member
Knack was near enough bundled with the PS4 in the UK as well, many copies were sold because Mum's and Dad's (and some others) forgot to pre-order a game with the PS4, so places like GAME sold copies of Knack. I think i counted every other PS4 was sold either Knack or Killzone Shadow Fall.
But damn, them figures are just so low for Knack 2.
But damn, them figures are just so low for Knack 2.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Without a huge marketing push i dont think its possible to overcome a sub 60 metacritic score from the original game, even if the sequel is alot better.
GeordieMark
Member
No it wasn't. It was available in a launch bundle, but not every bundle included it and you could buy the stand alone console without any games.
sems4arsenal
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Knack in Black
Filthy Casual
Member
The Japanese have sense it seems
It's one of the worst levels of the game, absurdly enough. The action/exploration ratio is generally in favour of the latter, and when it starts to shift in the last third both Knack's moveset and enemy variety are much better than in that level anyway.
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Salty Rice
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Its because they all jumped on that free download while they could like everybody else.
World is hungry for Knack.
World is hungry for Knack.
Maybe this will give a rest to the argument of "Knack (the first one) sold well so it means it's good!" whenever talking about this meme of a game. It is not my wish to bash the dev itself, all my best to them and to their credit, the second game is at least improved significantly. But whoever came up with the actual design of Knack, the character...eeh, better luck next time ?
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
Knack is shit. Knack II is shit. Knack will always be shit.
This news isnt surprising.
This news isnt surprising.
chromatic9
Member
Knack turned to Kack
I'm sure those 300k people who played the first one were disappointed enough to never try a Knack game again.
I did put some time into Knack 2 due to them mis-pricing it as free on the EU PSN stores. It's much improved over the original and is actually quite an enjoyable platformer, but I just don't think it was ever going to overcome the hurdle of the impressions of the first. The first game just wasn't very good, and Knack 2 doesn't really differentiate itself enough. Plus I don't remember much marketing anyway.
I did put some time into Knack 2 due to them mis-pricing it as free on the EU PSN stores. It's much improved over the original and is actually quite an enjoyable platformer, but I just don't think it was ever going to overcome the hurdle of the impressions of the first. The first game just wasn't very good, and Knack 2 doesn't really differentiate itself enough. Plus I don't remember much marketing anyway.
Mortimer Brewster
Member
Is Sony going to finally revoke those New Zealand digital copies now?
James Scott
Banned
Knack is a terrible character with every character design in the game being terrible.
First game sold due to memes and bundles but it was terrible.
The sequel is less terrible but all around mediocre and not with experiencing
Memes might help in the West, tho. People like that $40 price tag
First game sold due to memes and bundles but it was terrible.
The sequel is less terrible but all around mediocre and not with experiencing
Memes might help in the West, tho. People like that $40 price tag
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Now is the perfect time for a sequel to Ryse, right guys?
Brock Reiher
Banned
Yup. Now that we're hooked, just release Knack 3 and charge money for it.
KillerMan91
Member
In Japan yes it was. Launch week PS4 sold 322k units and Knack sold 322k units. Sony wanted somehow compensate for late Japanese launch and gave Knack as free game with every launch PS4.
It already flopped in Europe. NPD isn't out for September for a couple of weeks, but I wouldn't at all be shocked if it failed to make it to the top 10 PS4 games for the month, let alone the overall top 20.
Sony would have been better off donating the budget of the game to a children's charity; at least that would have been something kids wanted.
Tbh, Knack is kinda ugly. The artstyle is very very bland and doesn't seem inspired, and the character itself is ugly as hell. That's not the kind of mascot that's gonna pull good numbers. I'm guessing Sony will be done with letting Cerny do more of these games. If they'll let him do another game it will have to be something new and... not knacky.
JetSetRadio
Banned
That Crash remake must hurt.
Just build me a PS5 Cerny!
Just build me a PS5 Cerny!
GeordieMark
Member
EDIT: oh sorry misread.
Didn't need to make a new account, I waited midnight local time and could grab it on any EU store.
ODDI
Member
And this is how Knack 3 was made.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
I mean, its outselling it as we speak
Seganomics
Member
How did it do in the UK? I don't ever remember seeing it on the charts.
I honestly don't think a Ryse sequel would perform anywhere near as badly. Both games received plenty of criticism for their gameplay, but Ryse's presentation was at least near universally praised, whilst Knack;s was the opposite.
Ryse also earns more benefit of the doubt for not being entirely reliant on launch windows and mass bundling, because it both wasn't bundled to anywhere near the same extent, and has over a million owners on Steam from a port a year later.
Tevious
Member
Uh
I was gonna answer with something controversial like Megaman or Mario just to rustle people's jimmies, but then I thought again and realized that would be unfair. Knack truly is a monstrosity.
Taliban Stan
Member
It's the "Launch Fallacy" as I call it or "Brickwall Gaming"
When a system launches, there aren't many games to play. Let's take Lost Planet as an example. If you liked actions games, there weren't a ton of options when 360 launched. Lost Planet was one of the only options. Your options are low and depending on the type of games you like, your options may be stare at a brick wall or play Lost Planet.
Lost Planet is more fun than a brick wall.
At some point though, the library of the system grows. Fans of the genre have many many entires to pick from. Brick wall is no longer an options. It's just games. In a world where it's game vs game rather than game vs brick wall, Lost Planet couldn't find an audience.
I believe Knack is a brickwall game. When there's literally nothing to play in that genre but Knack and it's either play Knack or stare at a brick wall, wow Knack can do really well in the market. When there are games to play in the genre other than Knack, well people call a spade a spade and Knack 2 does 1% what it's predecessor did.
When a system launches, there aren't many games to play. Let's take Lost Planet as an example. If you liked actions games, there weren't a ton of options when 360 launched. Lost Planet was one of the only options. Your options are low and depending on the type of games you like, your options may be stare at a brick wall or play Lost Planet.
Lost Planet is more fun than a brick wall.
At some point though, the library of the system grows. Fans of the genre have many many entires to pick from. Brick wall is no longer an options. It's just games. In a world where it's game vs game rather than game vs brick wall, Lost Planet couldn't find an audience.
I believe Knack is a brickwall game. When there's literally nothing to play in that genre but Knack and it's either play Knack or stare at a brick wall, wow Knack can do really well in the market. When there are games to play in the genre other than Knack, well people call a spade a spade and Knack 2 does 1% what it's predecessor did.
Not surprised at all, the only reason Knack 1 did well was because it was released during the launch period of the PS4 or was part of a bundle.
From playing the demos of both games Knack is well very mediocre and the character design is just bland, uninspired and just a poor man clone of Crash which is why Knack 2 bombed because the market was never interested in the series, thus making Knack a bigger joke than Sonic.
To be fair unlike Redsteel 1 the second game required the motion plus add-on.
From playing the demos of both games Knack is well very mediocre and the character design is just bland, uninspired and just a poor man clone of Crash which is why Knack 2 bombed because the market was never interested in the series, thus making Knack a bigger joke than Sonic.
To be fair unlike Redsteel 1 the second game required the motion plus add-on.
Okami Haundo
Member
Hot damn! Being a PS4 launch title certainly helped the first game a ton. I'm envisioning a world in which Knack continues to see declining sales, but keeps getting sequels anyway because Mark Cerny wants them. Knack 5 on PS5 will finally be the game that's just an outright masterpiece thanks to continued refinement.