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Indie Game Dev: Wii U is not much more powerful than a PS Vita
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Only in single player though! Clearly, the Wii U increases in power when it unites with others over the internet!
AcademicSaucer
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Can I see numbers instead of lol Nicalis posts ?
If the Wii was two GCNs duct taped together I would guess the Vita is worth 3 GCNs duct tapped together.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Vita isn't anywhere near the PS3 in power, I mean it's closer than something like the Wii but its not even comparable, it doesn't run many ports just fine btw
I think this issue was corrected with a patch.
DrROBschiz
Member
The WiiU is clearly more powerful and capable of much more than the Vita
For the sheer fact its not run on a battery
For the sheer fact its not run on a battery
The bottom one is too mature.
...the Wii U can do fine.
...Outlook Not Good.
Wut?
TheAutomator
Banned
Xenoblade X looks great, but as a result of art style + hidden compromises + optimization tailored to one console. I don't think it's definite proof it's much better than the Vita. It's like saying PS3 is much better than the 360 because of The Last of Us.
TouchMyBox
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The wii u definitely has a much better gpu, but I imagine that its cpu isn't much better, which is what would actually affect indie devs because not many 2d games are going to benefit from more shader cores.
He actually meant that for 2D Games they ain't that much different...but he never said that because...
...people don't know that 2D is different than 3D, so he generalized it instead...
Sure, took the words out of my mouth. Same goes for MK8, 3D World, Zelda U, Bayonetta 2, etc.
Is this real life?
Gotdatmoney
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Aliasing is pretty bad on MK8. The speed of the game makes it less noticeable when you're playing. I actually think 3D World looks better overall.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Might wanna.....might wanna do some editing there
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I think Nicalis have handed this very badly. First of all you had all the "LOLNintendo!" stuff about Isaac not being released on Nintendo due to religious content, then when the game is finally released, you release it in a buggy fashion, say the DLC isn't coming, then compare the system unflatteringly to the Vita. It's almost like they've stolen a page from EA's playbook. Seriously, why would a Nintendo console owner support them after that?
To be honest, Tyrone never seemed like much of a fan of the Wii U in general.
http://mynintendonews.com/2014/03/04/nicalis-founder-hits-back-at-the-wii-u-gamepad/
http://mynintendonews.com/2014/03/04/nicalis-founder-hits-back-at-the-wii-u-gamepad/
TouchMyBox
Member
Is that not a universal opinion?
Vita doesnt run many PS3 ports 'just fine'
Borderlands 2, Revelations 2, SFxT, Ninja Gaiden Sigma ports, etc
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Ok, I have one tetris here which would choke both xbone and ps4. My tetris takes a desktop i7 to run at playable framerates. The difference?
I'm still considering twitting about current gen consoles' inability to handle a game of tetris, though. What says you, gaf?
It's MonteCarlo raytraced.
I'm still considering twitting about current gen consoles' inability to handle a game of tetris, though. What says you, gaf?
I'm not saying Tyrone's opinion on the Gamepad isn't right. I think most would agree with him.
All I'm saying is Tyrone has always been a little more vocal about Wii U's problems than other eShop developers.
??? Are you mad??? It runs fine but looks like shit
Not sure what the under-utility of the WiiU's GamePad has to do with its ability to run Isaac:Afterbirth.
Fourth Storm
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What kind of engine are they running? Are they fully exploiting the CPU's hefty L2 cache? Taking advantage of the low latency connection between CPU cores and the 32 MB eDRAM?
I can't imagine anything other than the CPU being a bottleneck here.
I can't imagine anything other than the CPU being a bottleneck here.
Lol, trying to hide the indie's name. Nicalis, the best of the best. They actually share 70% of the DNA with Konami, not Kojima.
My biggest kickstarter mistake was not to forfeit my pledge for The 90's Arcade Racer once it was announced that Nicalis took over the (non) publishing of the game.
Also, it is known that all European devices are much weaker than the NA thus the powerful Nicalis engine takes a lot more to optimize on the former.
edit: damn, I was late with the last part like an European localization from Nicalis.
My biggest kickstarter mistake was not to forfeit my pledge for The 90's Arcade Racer once it was announced that Nicalis took over the (non) publishing of the game.
Also, it is known that all European devices are much weaker than the NA thus the powerful Nicalis engine takes a lot more to optimize on the former.
edit: damn, I was late with the last part like an European localization from Nicalis.
Just to be sure, are we talking about the same platforms here?
The mobile one that can't even handle it's own 960x544 resolution a lot of the time and the one that runs Smash Bros in 1080p at 60fps with 8 players on screen?
Obviously there is not much difference in between Vita and Wii U. Obviously.
The mobile one that can't even handle it's own 960x544 resolution a lot of the time and the one that runs Smash Bros in 1080p at 60fps with 8 players on screen?
Obviously there is not much difference in between Vita and Wii U. Obviously.
He said Nintendo should have spent $100 on something more substantial than the GamePad.
If the man truly believes Wii U is not much more powerful than PS Vita, then he probably believes that Nintendo should have spent $100 on better hardware, rather than a gimmicky controller.
The Vita CPU is clocked at 333 to 444 Mhz, though.
Orniletter
Banned
It can in multiplayer.
You keep banging on about this. Let's...for the sake of argument.... assume the WiiU is on par with the PS3.
Uncharted: Golden Abyss, by far one of the highest budget games on the entire system, looks significantly worse than Uncharted 1 (a 2007 game). Even Killzone Mercenaries looks far worse than KZ 3 .
Just no.
protomouse
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I honestly don't know how the per-clock performance of Vita's Cortex-A9 compares to the Wii U's CPU. However, in terms of memory and GPU, the Wii U is far superior. The word "CPU" fits nicely within a tweet, so he could have used that to at least not look like a total fool.
I think other releases have proven that both machines are capable enough for impressive 2D games.
I think other releases have proven that both machines are capable enough for impressive 2D games.
The WiiU cpu would still crush the A9. The Vita's specs really aren't impressive. The iPhone 5 has a better mobile chipset than the vita.
Mass_Pincup
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SFxT is fine, as is Sly 4, PSABR, the Atelier games, the Neptunia games, the Blazblue games, DOA5, Deception IV, Fifa, Disgaea 3 and 4, Dragon's Crown and many others.
GhostTrick
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Vita is slower on both sides because of clockspeeds. 444mhz for the CPU and 222mhz for the GPU.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Even if he was talking CPU, vita's 4x A9 @444MHz is not exactly a match for 3x gekko's @1.24GHz, and that is before we consider the differences in RAM and caches.
?Orniletter
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