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They're going to bury the Wii name so far underground it'll make E.T. jealous.
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Kimishima: Internal sales representative projected Wii U to sell 100 million Units
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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Still not the worst expectation. It's actually realistic within the realms of the console business. The console just wasn't a hit unfortunately.
Now MS expecting the sales from this gen to tally up to more than a billion, with the Xbox One being responsible for the vast majority of those sales. That was ridiculous.
Now MS expecting the sales from this gen to tally up to more than a billion, with the Xbox One being responsible for the vast majority of those sales. That was ridiculous.
Dynamite Shikoku
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Why did they think the customers who enjoyed the waggle stick would also enjoy holding a huge screen in their hands that took away all the kinetic enjoyment of the Wii
Aaronrules380
Member
There is no they. It was one guy
mrmickfran
Member
lol
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Definitely. Both systems had a gimmick that developers couldn't figure out what to do with. At least the 3DS was salvageable, though. That thing was close to dead out of the gate.
Try just over half that.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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This going to be another one of those threads where people fail to understand that the thread title is highly flawed, isn't it???
It didn't help that they were pretty vague during the Wii U announcement and didn't even show the console or talk about its specs, they only talked about the controller.
For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eToRfMrjbzM
No need. They didn't actually expect to sell 100 million, OP just can't read.
crazepharmacist
Member
I think Wii Two would have been a cute name. "We too can play" or something could have been the slogan. I just don't get the Wii U name.
I dunno :]
vpance
Member
Well he brought it up for a reason. I think it's safe to say the general sentiment there was that it would've sold a lot more.
The12thGripper
Member
that someone was really over optimistic lmao
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Doesn't excuse the bad thread title.
Aaronrules380
Member
He brought up that line of thinking to explain why it was flawed and that it isn't that easy to have a super successful console. Given that this is an investor's meeting, where many people are likely unfamiliar with the game market, it seems like a reasonable thing to explain to people as to why their expectations weren't completely fair
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
On name alone?
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
I remember when I "pessimistically" capped Wii U sales at 50m, with my expectations in the 30s.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Even with the incorrect thread title I'm sure they had high expectations for it by it keeping that Wii name while at the same time targeting the tablet market in a way I wouldn't be surprised if the plan was for it to be a Wii like success. But since op got the title wrong any discussion will be hand waved away.
I wonder what the plan and the market demographic for the nx will be
I wonder what the plan and the market demographic for the nx will be
themagicalkitsune
Member
Shocking: local nostradamus at nintendo is wrong
Hero of Legend
Member
Hell that person might not even be there anymore. I highly doubt any of the higher ups agreed with this one person.
bobbychalkers
Member
Dahell?!?
I bought the thing day 1 and even I knew that it wouldn't set the world on fire. The year up until launch was just a bunch of bad marketing decisions after the next.
I bought the thing day 1 and even I knew that it wouldn't set the world on fire. The year up until launch was just a bunch of bad marketing decisions after the next.
this, so much. Wii was revolution in how we interact with games. Wii U was reactionary seeing how tablets were becoming more and more popular. They did the same thing with the 3DS when 3D was supposed to be the next big thing. They just had the library to strong arm it to success.
Fallout-NL
Member
Yup, still don't seem to understand it was a fluke.
If only!
Maybe the real problem wasn't crazy sales projections, but no one could properly articulate why this thing would sell at all.
MisterHero
Super Member
They did with the Wii
Cheap hardware and cheap software. They sold a shit ton of both. Unfortunately all the mindshare is on premium experiences now. Wii U wasn't cutting edge but the right library might've sold it. Outside of Nintendo's output, they didn't even have that.
They dropped the ball on value. The flash storage was a joke, NintendoLand was an extra purchase, and games increased to $60 when their most popular titles did fine at $50. 3DS's price nearly killed it out of the gate.
I really hope NX debuts with a solid, competitive library and a fair price. They don't have to compete with Sony and MS, but sharing the 3rd-parties would be a good start.
CanUKlehead
Member
I think 'Super Wii' would've been better. Not sure if it would've sold more, but harkens back to the NES --> Super NES transition.
I mean, if they wanted to keep the Wii name anyway.
I mean, if they wanted to keep the Wii name anyway.
Jubenhimer
Member
This kond of confirms my suspicions that the Wii U really was just a cynical cash grab slapped together hoping brand recognition was enough. I really hope Nintendo has learned the right lessons with the NX. Don't bank on brand recognition and rehashes, your consumers don't want that. They want something fresh, novel and most importantly, simple and easy to use.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Price was a problem, but not the problem. The biggest issue was they continued target a market that no longer exists. A mistake they seem to be making with the NX, based off some of their comments.
Ninja Scooter
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mrmickfran
Member
Whether if it was that one person or Nintendo as a whole, that's fucking bonkers.
The Wii barely hit 100 itself, how would anyone expect an HD console with a fucking tablet controller to get anywhere near that?
The Wii barely hit 100 itself, how would anyone expect an HD console with a fucking tablet controller to get anywhere near that?
Caffeine
Member
lots of people still think the 3ds is just another ds too.
anyway who ever projected this is insane. the day after it was announced I projected under 30m. even I was way off the mark with it only barely passing 10m the casual crowd ship sailed.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
They reached 15% of their goal. How many of us could honestly say they reached 15% of their hopes and dreams? Hardly any of us.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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This reminds me of Kotaku thinking Kamiya represented all of Japan(developers).
i thought it'd clock in around 50 million. even though it seemed like a dud i figured, hey, it's nintendo, they know what the fuck they're doing. but yeah, it's sorta been like watching a car wreck the last four years
in retrospect nintendo should've just released a stopgap system. a "wii 2" or "wii HD"... sure, it wouldn't have sold a zillion like the original wii but it would've lured some core gamers back into the fold, and maybe some soccer moms and grandmas might feel the need to upgrade for whatever reason.
in nintendo's defense there wasn't a whole lot in the cards for a second act following the wii either way
in retrospect nintendo should've just released a stopgap system. a "wii 2" or "wii HD"... sure, it wouldn't have sold a zillion like the original wii but it would've lured some core gamers back into the fold, and maybe some soccer moms and grandmas might feel the need to upgrade for whatever reason.
in nintendo's defense there wasn't a whole lot in the cards for a second act following the wii either way
Haha. Wont even be close. Kimishima said 58 million right now iirc. With sales slowing I doubt it ever gets to 70 mil.
They're all as bad as each other. Sony were boneheaded with early PS3. Microsoft completely dropped the ball with XB1.
I don't understand how they think "Oh, we've got a/the userbase locked up, we can do whatever we want and it'll sell!"
It's worrying coming from such big companies with talent and successful business people.
I doubt even 65 going by sales lately. From 260m~ to 80m ...