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Kotaku: "Only 90% of Xbox One GPU usable for games"- PS4 GPU up to 66% more powerful?
- Thread starter Gemüsepizza
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You only get that 100ish GB of bandwidth when you are accessing something that is in the very small SRAM, everything else is limited to the speed of the DDR3 main RAM (the vast amount of the RAM).
You clearly have no clue and you have no right to abuse people because you can not get your head around simple concepts!
Cool, I guess that also confirms that the PS3 did not use it.
XANDER CAGE
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How many firehoses is the Wii U?
Tripolygon
Banned
Yes it does, it can run in the background while you play games.
weekend_warrior
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This week has been a real disaster for juniors, I've never seen so many get perma'd in such a short span.
Pristine_Condition
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I'm sad he fell out of the tree before he got more of a chance to drop that deep knowledge on us, yo.
A 7770 doesn't have an eSRAM cache to be fair.
Xbox 360 had GPU reserved, and so will PS4. MS should just keep their mouths shut like Sony, who no doubt have a similar if not identical OS footprint/reserve with PS4. And DRM.
Xbox 360 had GPU reserved, and so will PS4. MS should just keep their mouths shut like Sony, who no doubt have a similar if not identical OS footprint/reserve with PS4. And DRM.
That's not how it works for graphics processing, "everything else" doesn't need much bandwidth. The GPU gets effectively 170GB/s.
RyanReedyMusic
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As long as their are good games who cares if the system is less powerful than WII U. Gaf is so disappointing sometimes. Its like really who gives a @$#@ if the system is not powerful. Does that mean you wont get good games? NO
Pretty big gap.
I imagine that he PS4 will have 5% or so of its GPU dedicated to its OS. Though I disagree with you regarding the OS reserve.
RyanReedyMusic
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Oh no. XB1 is not as powerful as PS4. All hope of any games being good is lost. All hope is gone. All of gamer life on the console is forever doomed. There will be no games. No core titles. Nothing. Burn the console. Burn the controller. Burn it all.
equippedwithtowel
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MS is the one company that needs superior multiplats to round out a library.
Meccanical
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yeah, that is exactly what he was saying.
Kind of unfair comparison.
There are few pros and cons as opposed to the 7770:
Pros:
- 2 more CUs (which are being customized further)
- ESRAM
- 256-bit memory interface
- Runs 200MHz below 7770's core clock
- Operates upon DDR3
So while it almost feels like the negatives and positive negate each other on paper, it's hard to tell if that'll be the case in practice, especially when devs keep on working at it for years to come.
But it has clowd.
What does this have to do with my post?
FLOPS wise they are similar (1.23TFLOPS for the XBone vs 1.28TFLOPS for the 7770).
Was this really necessary?
Talk about an overreaction, All he said was the gap was substantial in that benchmark result geez.
RyanReedyMusic
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Yes its completely necessary as Gaf is absolutely acting just like my post literally since the console reveal.
RyanReedyMusic
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Its not really wrong for gaf to do an overreaction. Its just that they are taking it without thinking of the big picture.
When one stands and takes the bullets there are those out in the back in the same department who will have to take a stand eventually if you know what I mean.
Its a force move regardless of what happens
Meccanical
Member
Go cry somewhere else.
RyanReedyMusic
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MS is taking heat for the same thing that Sony is going to have to stand up and be counted for as well.
They have not made final decisions on the subject either.
digoutyoursoul
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Microsoft were pretty elusive about the GPU at the reveal which I found interesting.
Another thing I noticed is Sony released the full specifications in detail on Feb 20th, correct me if am wrong but MS haven't done the same right?
Another thing I noticed is Sony released the full specifications in detail on Feb 20th, correct me if am wrong but MS haven't done the same right?
I thought this was about the console specs, when did the DRM argument come into this thread?
I think you need to take a break from GAF, You're taking these things way too seriously.
That is how it works!
Everything needs to be loaded by the GPU each frame, including art assets. Having low GPU main memory bandwidth like that will limit how much data can be in each frame for a given frame rate.
What does that have to do with the factual power gap between the two resulting in your hyperbolic outburst?
They've released specs but didn't go into any details about it. It's pretty much the VGleaks Durango specs we all know.
RyanReedyMusic
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What does the power gap have anything to do with the systems success?
Where in my post did I claim that the power gap would influence the financial success of either system?
Meccanical
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Ryan you aren't making any sense.
digoutyoursoul
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So, going from those specs, Playstation 4 should have the better performing games I assume ? Those Xbox specs are disappointing to me, I expected a little bit better.
krypt0nian
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This is a spec comparison thread. And you're telling people not to compare them. Any other threads we're not supposed to make?
Where did the original post refer to it being a benchmark for either success or failure?
RyanReedyMusic
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Im sorry. I just get caught up in all the hatred for MS that I forget sometimes there are reasonable peoples out there too. Im getting both consoles so for those that are going to do that we get the best of all of what both can do. ya knkow
Meccanical
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Most likely
RyanReedyMusic
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We already know that the system has a definite power gap. Whats the reason for the post of how much it is? Its already clear Sony has that advantage.
Jesus at the amount of salt in your posts. Relax man, it's not that serious, just a simple tech comparison between two consoles.
krypt0nian
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This is the thread we talk about that in. Don't post here if that makes you go all batty.
We didn't ask for your meltdown.
What reason do we need? This is a forum. We discuss things. The end.
Report to mod next time if the content isn't to your liking, your highness.
RyanReedyMusic
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Im fine with it being more powerful. Im buying all systems. Day 1 for both consoles
digoutyoursoul
Member
I just need that GTA V port now
krypt0nian
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Great. Now don't tell people how to post or flip out when they do as they wish.
Well, the should have kept their PR people on a leash. Don't blame the gaming community for things MS brought up to the discussion!
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
This is the Nintendo line of defense. It's the Alamo. And while it worked for the Wii it wasn't quite so successful second time out. There are many factors that lead to the success or failure of a console. Some more than others. Power really can matter. And timing. And price. And message. It all factors. And whatever game can be made on weaker hardware can be made better on more capable hardware. No company has a monopoly on creativity. But every game designer eventually hits a technological wall, a point where the hardware says, "Sorry, no further" and they have to start making compromises. Hard choices, sometimes. And cuts. With more power, you get to push further before you start making compromises. I believe it's great games that ultimately sell consoles and lead to success. Even with a shaky start, a console with enough must-have games will get back into the race. And a power gap (all other things equal) allows devs to create best versions of great mutliplatform titles, or fantastic first party exclusives. Power matters. It's not all there is to it, but it's still a factor.
People saying power doesn't matter... well lets just say I wonder about their motivations.