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Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
- Thread starter shinobi602
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Is there any chance for this to be part of the old Gaikai aka the new PlayStation "cloud" ?
Just like Microsoft started using their "cloud" to improve some games' functionality a few months ago.
Maybe just maybe, this would be part of a new improved PlayStation Store and a Playstation Plus service.
For example, maybe Sony will try something like this:
Any game people buy directly from the PlayStation Store will be optimized and improved with the help of the cloud.
Better resolution, better graphics, and more raw power for developers to "enhance" their games (more like Definitive editions of current PS4 games) compared to retail PS4 discs (and more aligned to their PC counterparts).
Maybe this PS4.5 thing is just some kind of new feature coming to every PS4 instead of a new console per se.
Just like Microsoft started using their "cloud" to improve some games' functionality a few months ago.
Maybe just maybe, this would be part of a new improved PlayStation Store and a Playstation Plus service.
For example, maybe Sony will try something like this:
Any game people buy directly from the PlayStation Store will be optimized and improved with the help of the cloud.
Better resolution, better graphics, and more raw power for developers to "enhance" their games (more like Definitive editions of current PS4 games) compared to retail PS4 discs (and more aligned to their PC counterparts).
Maybe this PS4.5 thing is just some kind of new feature coming to every PS4 instead of a new console per se.
For me, this model of releasing upgrades to current gen consoles kills console gaming. I currently have a laptop that barely plays pc game and had no interest in upgrading it so I could play more games.
With these rumors, the next path looks to just buy a desktop pc, it might cost a bit more and involve upgrading parts at some point but at least you don't need a new box every 2 years.
With these rumors, the next path looks to just buy a desktop pc, it might cost a bit more and involve upgrading parts at some point but at least you don't need a new box every 2 years.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Let's not talk crazy now lol Idk why I laughed so hard... A rumor having an impact on sales..
The author of the story talked about a new GPU so it wouldn't be a new feature.
So you if you didn't currently own a PS4 and were considering purchasing one, can you honestly say these rumors would have no effect on your decision? Smart move would be to hold off until more info comes out.
NoctisVsStar
Member
The common Joe doesn't know about every single rumor that goes on Gaf and let alone on the Internet.
If that's all it is then Sony should say so. This thread is 100 pages in no time flat, it's already out there. Kill it if there is no truth to it.
Yes it would. But the amount of people that would do this, mostly people on gaf and such that probably already have a ps4, should not have a noticeable effect on ps4 sales.
Neuromancer
Member
The average consumer will have no idea this story even exists. Even if Sony came right out and said it, I imagine it would take some time before a noticeable impact would be felt.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Sony doesn't kneel to Internet gossip.. Bruh cmon lol
FrozenCell
Member
Freesync-over-HDMI and HDR10 or even Dolby Vision would make sense.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
"TRADITION! TRADITION! TRADITION!"
Paradigms should constantly be re-evaluated. The industry isn't the same as it used to be, it may not make sense to continue on as usual.
Mushroom021
Member
This has been answered countless times.
First off klepek confirmed on twitter multiple sources confirmed to him there is 4k gaming. The next thing is doing indies or non graphic intensive games at 4k technically means yes it can do 4k gaming.
Its an easy PR bullet for them to say hey look it can do 4k, just like how with ps3 they claimed 1080p when only a small handful of games actually played at that resolution.
hemo memo
Gold Member
I think there's a big miscommunication here and no one is actually bs. Patric tweeted that what he heard is specifically 4K for gaming.. I don't know how is that possible without this thing priced outrageously high?
The Artisan
Member
as far as I can tell the best way to gauge is by sales, and the Ps4 and xbone have been consistently outpacing the sales of their predecessors. This is one tradition that is clearly breaking a lot of people's spirits.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
On the flip side, some traditions are there for a reason.
Like, buttons. Re-evaluating "tradition" is what led to stuff like waggle and Kinect.
Let's not talk crazy now lol Idk why I laughed so hard... A rumor having an impact on sales..
Why is it funny? I'm not getting a PS4 this year now and will likely get a NX next year instead until this supposed PS4.5 releases :l.
This rumor did damage and people in the gaming scene are now wary about getting a PS4 now if they didn't own one already.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Twist 4K gaming only relagated to indies
Kappa
This doesn't harm the casual Joe, this paranoia is unwarranted. It's just a ps4 with a 4K chip upscaler.. Do people forget how expensive 4K gaming is? This whole conversation is silly until hard facts are shown.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
It isn't even possibly from a technological standpoint. You need something on the level of a GTX 980 Ti to achieve "playability" at 4K and even then I am sure you need to turn some settings down. Oh, and forget getting a SoC with a 980 Ti on board.
Neuromancer
Member
Not sure that applies, as Sony themselves haven't announced anything.
If this happens, all PS4 games will work on both boxes.
It doesn't matter if 4K is expensive or not, will not get a PS4 until Sony states more info on this news :l.
I don't have the funds to get two PS4's man :'(.
If sales actually go down with uncharted 4 and all the other exclusives. I'll be shocked.
Sales won't take a massive nose dive for the casual joe but people like me who are invested in gaming but don't have a massive amount of money might not be too keen on getting a PS4 with this rumor floating around :l.
XxRampage07xX
Member
But you don't need a new box every 2 years if you already own a PS4. I don't know why so many people assume their old PS4s will become brick and lose the gaming functionality even though PS4 and PS4.5 will be likely to share the very same game libraries, which means games that run on PS4 will totally run on PS4.5 and vice versa.
Neuromancer
Member
Counterpoint- the Xbox One reveal was a complete disaster on every front because MS abandoned the tradition of consoles not requiring an internet connection, allowing consumers to freely buy/sell/whatever used games. Sometimes traditions make a lot of sense.
Gunslinger
Member
Why is so many people are so sure about this? This is probably just a rumor or another name for ps5. I do expect this gen to be much shorter than the ps3/360 era. We probably have at most 2 years before ps5 comes out imo.
NoctisVsStar
Member
All I can say is don't and wait until e3 then. I'm just laughing here at the notion of 4K gaming at affordable pricing.. It's just a sku with a 4K upscaler no secret sauce. Or you expecting Sony to come out and say 4K native gaming at 899.99? Lol
Will wait until E3 before I decide to get a PS4 or no then. Thank you for the advice buddy
.Mushroom021
Member
The sales likely won't be impacted, they will lose a handful of gamers who are on top of the stuff but nothing substantial. That being said without a price drop and clearing stock they will be stuck with a ton of these, the top SKU always sells the most.
What if the game is spelunky or binding if Isaac?
What if the game is spelunky or binding if Isaac?
Neuromancer
Member
What if no PS4.5 is ever released, either because this story was wrong or Sony doesn't go through with it? You will have missed out, all because of a Kotaku rumor of all things.
More money I save I suppose
. Got a PS3 very late in the game (2011), so don't mind getting a PS4 around the launch of the PS5 or whatever.
Mushroom021
Member
The sources for This are rock solid. Not even just zoetis Patrick klepek is very reliable.
LostDonkey
Member
That's 60hz per eye which is calculated at 120hz. It isn't a native 120hz. This is why the reprojection unit is needed, because it can't be done straight through hdmi natively.
Sony WAS the company with the 600$ console in 2006, so you never know man.
Type the characters "PS4" into google and you will likely see multiple 4.5 hits on the first page, I do anyways. If casual Joe is thinking of picking up a PS4 and does a simple search to check price or availability in their area, or whatever, he is going to come across these articles.
Maybe this is just the rumor of the day and will be forgotten in a week so no big deal, but maybe not. Come on Sony. Spill it!
Maybe this is just the rumor of the day and will be forgotten in a week so no big deal, but maybe not. Come on Sony. Spill it!
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Quoting myself for this new page. Again, what I've detailed above is almost assuredly what this will be, just based on pure common sense.
NoctisVsStar
Member
It's not happening this paranoia is hilarious to see though. Reminds me of the DS3 not being 60fps for PC thread a lot of embarrassing comments to later backtrack like this
hemo memo
Gold Member
Then what we heard is misleading. Console upgrade so it could run indie games at 4K?!
LostDonkey
Member
Again, it's 120hz 60hz per eye, 2 signals. Not native 120hz.
Neuromancer
Member
If you don't know his sources, how could they be rock solid?
I disagree about Patrick. I distinctly remember him talking about how Sony was going to do the same kind of always online DRM for PS4 back in 2013, which ended up being false. He lost a lot of credibility with me.
Zoetis did correctly predict TLG at E3, but I don't know if that's enough for me to accept everything he/she says unconditionally.
Even if you're right though, the sources were rock solid, and Patrick did his due diligence, it still doesn't mean that this is something that will definitely happen. The article even says one source says that these talks were exploratory in nature and it may not happen until next year. Sony could be considering it, and then decide against it at a later date.
N00b Saibot
Banned
And it begins lol