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Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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'Very rarely' more like never going to happen.
Obliterator
Member
Oh shit there it is folks.
Wow. That's the real megaton right there.
Or give developers even more effects to push at 30fps
I knew they mentioned it, I meant that would be this make them force their hand and try to release it this year or early next year?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
That still sucks tho lol if i wanted to buy an inferior version i would buy a pc and a ps4 than get the ps4 version..now if this is true whether u just own a ps4 or not you still have the inferior version in your mind because another ps4 version is out there lol...o my head why u throwing these curve balls sony we was cool this gen
Netherscourge
Banned
Looks like all those PS4 Stability Updates have finally paid off!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
So nearly pointless for anybody without a 4KTV? I can handle that.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Why? It makes perfect sense from where I'm standing. It looks like both MS and Sony are investigating the phone/tablet model for consoles. If they can keep the costs down, then the people who absolutely have to get the latest and greatest every year pad the bottom line for both companies.
I know people who absolutely have to get the latest iPhone or Android equivalent every year. Those phones are almost double the price of a new console.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Has this guy been verified?
If anything did, it would be either 2D or exceptionally simple and clean like Rez, which supposedly does native 120Hz on PSVR.
The only remaining question now is "How?".
Cow Goes Moo
Member
Boom.
Looks like all those PS4 Stability Updates have finally paid off!
Why though.
Omnistalgic
Member
Wheres Mark Cerny when you need em?
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
He said Last Guardian would be at E3 last year. That's it IIRC
amstradcpc
Member
It will be Polaris 10 at minimum.Polaris 10 runs Hitman 1440p at 60fps.R390X territory and just enough for 4K.
Cereal Enthusiast
Banned
Ok so let's say that you can insert any current PS4 game into the PS4.5, and it automatically display it at 60fps (if the game was 30), and with better AA or something like that.
I think I would be ok.
Edit: and developpers would still have to target the vanilla PS4, not the PS4.5.
Obliterator
Member
Looks like all those PS4 Stability Updates have finally paid off!
How does this end lol.
Higher framerate, not just res.
edit: according to member Zoetis.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198629611&postcount=3048
Omnistalgic
Member
yup...
Mediking
Member
So.... we're gonna start seeing trailers start off with "only possible because of Playstation 4.5" and "Playstation 4.5 only game footage?"
Then there's gonna be the silly inevitable screenshot war WITHIN THE PLAYSTATION FANBASE of comparing Playstation 4.5 games' screenshots to Playstation 4 games' screenshots.
platina
Member
Ok I'm definitely in then.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
What hints exactly did Phil drop?
vpance
Member
You joke, but I think some devs recently figured out a very cheap way to render 4K using some MSAA trick. Maybe they'll just do that for every game.
Eighty Deuce
Banned
I bought the PS4 for exclusives (naughty dog ect), every other multi platform game if default PC gaming. It's not worth dropping another 500 bucks so soon.
The Lone Courier
Member
I have the same question. We may be putting to much stock in his posts.
True. If they can pull this off it makes more money for Sony and entrenches people into their ecosystem with forward/back compatibility. Having a big user base with PS4 is a good base to try it from
I'd happily buy a new console every 3 years. Waiting so long for PS4 was horrible
Practically speaking though - what can they do? If they stay on 28nm they can't go much bigger. And 16nm won't be mature enough for big chips in volume.
Lucky Seven
Banned
Super Playstation 4? Xbox 64?
Papacheeks
Banned
Yea and that's why so many PC versions of games run great on all configs?
PC actually takes more work, which is why a lot of games that get ported, are done by third party sometimes.
If blizzard has a hard time getting Diablo 3 reaper of souls getting 1080p 60fps on xbox because of the weeker GPU, and needed extra engineers to get it done. I would say my comments have merit.
ANd blizzard are kings of optimization. How do you think someone like treyarch, evolution, or how about CD Project red who had a hell of a time performance wise, try and get Witcher 3 to work on all 4 configs, meaning xbox vanilla, PS4 vanilla, xbox enhanced, ps4 enhanced.
How much more work, time do you think is needs? How will maybe the different configs react with their game, if the gpu does something different memory wise, will that add more work to utilize it?
No one knows, but what I do know is there's a reason outside of just sales third party's did not want to develop on wii u. Different config.
Even though this enhanced PS4/XBOX will be same architecture might be same cpu but different gpu or vice versa or both, it's will add to work flow.
I survived this fucking PS4 launch stampede just to see people who buy later get the same games running better? Seriously?
This is going on to be PC territory. Know where it started. This is the new horse armor. It only gets worse from here on. Screw those idiots.
No bro. All games will be played on both consoles. The newer one runs it better.
The question what would happen with existing users is still open though and I'm really curious how they could pull it off.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
If they're going the apple/phone route at least give me an upgrade plan.
Nah a better one is: When? And the second best one: How Much?
Wellthereitis.gif
One stupid theory:
The 14/16nm die shrink of the PS4 SoC would be pad limited with the 256 bit memory bus (you can't go under 190mm2). So they made the gpu part bigger. They will disable what is over the PS4 specification for the standard model, but the PS4.5 can use the full chip.
The 14/16nm die shrink of the PS4 SoC would be pad limited with the 256 bit memory bus (you can't go under 190mm2). So they made the gpu part bigger. They will disable what is over the PS4 specification for the standard model, but the PS4.5 can use the full chip.
Frag Waffles
Member
I am baffled that so many people in here seem to think Sony is going to abandon the 40 million PS4 owners, give them the finger, and shift focus so quickly away from one of the most successful products they have ever launched and literally one of the only highlights of the company, profit wise, over the last few years. Makes no sense that they would do this. So much doom and gloom.
A ps4.5, executed correctly, would be great for everyone.
A ps4.5, executed correctly, would be great for everyone.
I wonder if they'll have a trade in program like the N3DS did.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Once they have a few exclusive PS4.5 games, it would be a problem. They're copying Sega if they go this route. The current PS4 can't do 4K, so their would be games that are *exclusive* to the PS4.5.
Sony would screw over PSVR too. Its either PSVR or a console with better visuals. The consumer will be even more confused on which to get. If Sony wants VR to succeed, its wiser to stick to their PS4 than simply introducing more upgraded hardware. Not everyone is gonna upgrade either.