Well yeah what did people expect out of a handheld/home console hybrid?
Hahahaha
But for real though, i am disappointed. I wanted at least PS4-Level Hardware, i mean, Nintendo could at least act like they want the General crowd back
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Liam Robertson (of Unseen64 fame): "NX is not aiming to compete on a power level"
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Hahahaha
But for real though, i am disappointed. I wanted at least PS4-Level Hardware, i mean, Nintendo could at least act like they want the General crowd back
DealWithIt
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Does this quash the Zelda WiiU is being swapped for Nx launch rumors?
That's a very silly question. Assuming NX is a home console, it will be a modest leap beyond Wii U but not competitive with the PS4. What Nintendo want is a platform that can offer:
1. All their legacy titles, including Wii U, Wii and GC software
2. A unified architecture so their handheld and console libraries are no longer separate
3. Easy ports for mobile developers
4. Easy for indies
5. A low price
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The Wii U sales are abysmal. Why would they want to emulate anything close to that Disaster?
Because it will launch with Metroid Prime 4, Zelda, F-Zero and a Nintendo-style Minecraft.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
The real question is whether they'll go with a variant of the Gamecube CPU four gens in a row.
We dont know that, even though its very likely.
It could be honestly a Android/Fire TV Setup situation where the console itself is quite cheap - like less than 150 bucks. And the upcoming portable uses the same SoC and will be sold for less than 200 bucks as well.
NX will likely be a system that gets updates every 2 years with beefier hardware and full BC.
AHA-Lambda
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shinra-bansho
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I, for one, am incredibly stunned by this revelation.
Mithos
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No ME support confirmed, unless $49-99
So if this happened, how likely/possible would it be for the home console NX to just be an OS replacement for the Wii U, maybe eliminating Gamepad necessity for a cheaper package?
pants
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Okay, I admit at this price point it doesnt matter how big of a piece of shit it is, I'd get it to play Mario Bros and even if it had nothing else I wouldnt be bummed out.
WiiU was a disaster because it was a home console. Expectations for a handheld are completely different.
The Wii U sales are abysmal. Why would they want to emulate anything close to that Disaster?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Exactly but I'm guessing 30 pages within a week.
Icewear Vezzo
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Which will give it a nice opening, but then What? It won't sell for the same reasons the Wii U isn't selling despite having some great exclusive games.
Eh, why be pessimistic? I mean it's not necessarily hard to match the PS4 in terms of hardware. NX is at least 2016 or later release. It can't match specs announced in early 2013? Specs that were low end aside from memory/RAM then.
There won't be a powerful Nintendo console with Genyo Takeda on board, and besides: his less-is-more philosophy already convinced Iwata and others years ago. Besides, they don't want to tank the company which is why they'll play it safe.
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I've written this 1000 times already, but I expect 'NX' to be a new Nintendo ecosystem that aims to bind consumers to that Nintendo ecosystem instead of consumers being bound to separate devices that have their own OS, own libraries and own architectures. Look at how disconnected both 3DS and Wii U players are for example.
They put their handheld and console divisions together. They need to support the Japanese and the NA/EU markets; east and west work differently these days.
This is why a lot of people are thinking they will release at least two form factors, a handheld and a console, both able to run the exact same games whose visuals are scaled down on the handheld. The question is just how much stronger will those be, and I wouldn't be surprised if we get slightly powered up current-gen-Nintendo hardware. Nothing they said implicated they want to join the power race again, instead Iwata keeps talking about the NX having some 'surprise' which will be another gimmick, bet yo ass on it.
I feel like no one really thinks of this. I wonder if this is where the mobile game hate comes from.
exmachina64
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What market(s) and demographic(s) do you see Nintendo as committed to attracting?
I agree; it's much more of an impulse purchase at that price point.
BocoDragon
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No, but Nintendo is all about innovation
Not saying this will be the case, but if they did indeed make a low-power Arm-powered box in order to release next year for a budget price... maybe it would be less powerful than the Wii U?
Maybe the state of cheap Arm-powered units would equal or surpass a PS3/360/Wii U console now. But I think we're in the ballpark of barely matching the Wii U and barely surpassing it in a best case scenario.
Interceptor
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Exactly. An affordable platform with almost all of Nintendos new releases on it. No more split between two hardware iterations. So what does this mean? It means Nintendo can support its own hardware without software droughts. Thats the main focus behind NX. Creating a platform like iOS where the library is only expanding and not reset to zero every few years.
Hip Hop
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True, but this stuff never takes off. We've seen that countless of times already, the Ouya being the more "out there" of them all.
Nothing will replace/compliment actual Smartphones for this kind of stuff.
The Wii U sales are abysmal. Why would they want to emulate anything close to that Disaster?
Wii U also cost too much. The Wii U pad was an expensive gimmick that was a weight around their neck.
If anything, competing on a power level which would make it high priced $300+, is closer to the Wii U. Why would anyone expect them to take such a big risk and be locked into another expensive console?
Silent_Ocarina
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I mean, Wii U barely matched against Xbox 360 seven years later.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Your username is my tag.
Said from the beginning I am expecting a Wii U+
4 Core Processor so improved in that regard and a moderately Improved GPU maybe in the 400-500 gflops range and maybe 4GB of ram.
It would certainly address alot of issues of the Wii U but still fail to be mindblowing but affordable
4 Core Processor so improved in that regard and a moderately Improved GPU maybe in the 400-500 gflops range and maybe 4GB of ram.
It would certainly address alot of issues of the Wii U but still fail to be mindblowing but affordable
Power slightly less than xbox one levels I presume. Nintendo are aiming cheap. Unifying platforms and getting mobile into it.
They are aiming for impulse buy price range $199 or less. Core gamers can purchase at cheap price as secondary console without having to pay too much and casuals/parents will have the lure of mobile/indie scene to provide cheap alternative.
They are aiming for impulse buy price range $199 or less. Core gamers can purchase at cheap price as secondary console without having to pay too much and casuals/parents will have the lure of mobile/indie scene to provide cheap alternative.
Keyser Soze
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NX should be Wii U power built inside a smaller version of the gamepad (3DS replacement), sold with TV Dock and a Pro Controller to plug it into TV (Wii U replacement).
Hybrid console. Let's do it!
Hybrid console. Let's do it!
Well they won't see third party support yet again, they need to be close to or on par with Xbox and ps4 or the porting won't be worth it to third parties. What a complete waste of time it will be unless they hit lucky again with a gimmick they will be in no better shape than they are now with wii u.
BocoDragon
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No way they do. That is just killing their third-party support.
Ouya didn't fail because it was Android or because it was low-powered... it had no marketing, distribution and mindshare compared with someone like Nintendo.
Icewear Vezzo
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Most mobile games look like pooh when blown up on a television. The resources required to make amped up versions of games for the console NX would literally be unaffordable for smaller devs making games for the NX so unless it's mandatory to make it compatible with both, the idea itself is meh.
DownGrader
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That actually sounds interesting and very plausible, especially considering Nintendo embracing long-time support for evergreen Wii U games through constant updates and new DLC.
maniac-kun
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So the nex console is not as powerful as the current consoles? What the f?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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PLEASE, Nintendo, name it this.
I'm really curious what the fuck they're going to do to attract Wii U owners to the NX. I know they're going to do some different stuff with the NX, because what they're currently doing is completely failing to attract anyone but Nintendo's hardcore. But what about their hardcore? Are exclusives really going to be enough to get them to upgrade again after how disappointing the Wii U was?
pants
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Your username would work as my tag
That's been the wii u in the uk at least for some time, it did nothing as a cheap secondary console. Unless ninth are again happy with lifetime sales of the cube then they need something else.
This shouldn't really come as much of a surprise to anyone but the question is whether Nintendo can get their heads out of their asses and offer something compelling and clear for the mass market consumer. They entered the Wii U with an incredible level of hubris and while I've loved my time with the console the entire leadup to release was a muddled mess.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Nintendo's progress in consoles is relative to their own consoles, not the competitors, nowadays.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The Wii U audience consists of people who'd buy Nintendo games regardless of what they do.
I think they're not thinking of that audience at all. They're thinking how how to attract literally everyone but the Wii U audience.
alexandros
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Not surprising.
Icewear Vezzo
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No idea why people want the NX to be anything like the Wii U.......it's almost as if they want the NX to fail.
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