Simbabbad
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Count me among the people who don't know what this stuff is about, and I 100%'d the game.
I very rarely make that sort of post, but: lol.
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Mario Kart WiiU - Still stuttering?!
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DownGrader
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Apparently 200cc is now unlocked from the start, while in 4.0, it had to be unlocked the same way as Mirror mode.
Lol all you want, it is a curse and a blessing, but it is what it is. How would you call it when some people can't see something happening fast while others can?
SinCityAssassin
Member
If they cannot stand to play Mario Kart 8, but can evade the speeding helldemon coming towards them for a few more seconds, more power to them.
Chris Ticehurst
Member
I don't see this as a issue at all. I have never been affected by this. It's just 1fps at the end of the day.
Yep I'm completely at a loss at how someone could be so effected by this issue. Unless someone is spectating and is studying every frame rendered, I cant see how someone actually playing this game mid-race could be thrown off so much by it.
Especially considering that so many console game run at fluctuating framerates, and Mario Kart 8 runs so well overall.
Especially considering that so many console game run at fluctuating framerates, and Mario Kart 8 runs so well overall.
Revolutionary
Member
I'm really glad I don't care about microstutter on console games. Would have ruined a bunch of games for me this gen already.
Lol wtf?
balladofwindfishes
Member
I've actually tried to see this in the game after reading about it, and couldn't even notice it while focusing on noticing it.
Oppo
Member
it's like fluorescent light flickering. bothers some, others not so much.
I noticed it on corners. it's more the fact that it's a steady drumbeat stutter. can't un-see it. didn't really bother me when I played but it was apparent. bloodborne does the same thing but not at a fixed rate.
I noticed it on corners. it's more the fact that it's a steady drumbeat stutter. can't un-see it. didn't really bother me when I played but it was apparent. bloodborne does the same thing but not at a fixed rate.
MrChocolate
Member
Because that's exactly what OP said. SMH...
That's about right. It drives me crazy but I still love the game. I just can't unsee it!
The weird thing is that I can't see it in MK8, but I had no trouble noticing it in Bloodborne (assuming it's the same issue, I'm not well versed enough to say).
Pretty much sums up how I feel.
Once you see the stutter you cannot unsee it. I noticed it right away and it's jarring that people can't even see it once.
And it's an issue I never had an idea existed and yet when I bought the game earlier this year, it was the first thing I noticed.
This thread reminds me of the day I discovered what screen tearing is. On one hand I apreciate games that don't have it, but on the other hand, it's very distracting.
As far as fps goes, I don't notice things like 59fps. I am more used to 30fps, I do notice when a game runs at 60 tho and major frame drops. (I don't really know the difference between between frame drops and slowdowns)
As far as fps goes, I don't notice things like 59fps. I am more used to 30fps, I do notice when a game runs at 60 tho and major frame drops. (I don't really know the difference between between frame drops and slowdowns)
Bloodborne runs around 30 fps most of the time (which is quite ironic condering the game's focus and quick movement). Depending what you do can lead to some really noticable slowdowns.
The game drops to a lower FPS in multiplayer
I know Bloodborne runs at a lower framerate, but I thought it had similar stutter issues.
But that could have just as easily been dropped frames for some other reason.
Thanks @cheesekao and other decent comments.
In Mario Kart, exactly every 64th frame is doubled, while every other one is fresh. Especially because the rest is delivered so smoothly, the tiny hickup stands out like a beacon for some, while they might find Bloodborne more tolerable (haven't tried that out myself yet). I had similar issues with Blu-rays on my old TV, which wasn't exactly 24 FPS capable though it marked it as supported it to the media player. As it is a PAL region device, it switched to 50 Hertz and doubled every 24th frame, very annoying. I had to manually disable 24 FPS mode in the PS3/4 so that the console did all the 3:2-pulldown to 60 FPS, which worked much better.
It is not. In Bloodborne, the framerate is a bit unstable, but mostly holds a steady 30 FPS. Just that they are not evenly spaced in the 60 Hertz Screen refresh. So instead of having a new frame every other refresh, you sometimes get 2 new frames back to back, then the latter is repeated twice before the next update. The problem is called pacing.
In Mario Kart, exactly every 64th frame is doubled, while every other one is fresh. Especially because the rest is delivered so smoothly, the tiny hickup stands out like a beacon for some, while they might find Bloodborne more tolerable (haven't tried that out myself yet). I had similar issues with Blu-rays on my old TV, which wasn't exactly 24 FPS capable though it marked it as supported it to the media player. As it is a PAL region device, it switched to 50 Hertz and doubled every 24th frame, very annoying. I had to manually disable 24 FPS mode in the PS3/4 so that the console did all the 3:2-pulldown to 60 FPS, which worked much better.
nuttyevans
Member
I think I have noticed this one or twice.....I think.
Game rules anyway so can't say it bothers me.
Game rules anyway so can't say it bothers me.
Yep same here. Was disappointed to hear of the 59Hz issue but happily I never notice it in gameplay, either on my TV or on the Gamepad screen.
Simbabbad
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A good chunk of the lol goes to "I'll skip an entire Nintendo generation because a frame out of 60 is doubled in a single game".
Like the hat?
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Same here. I am playing on the gamepad though. Maybe that makes a difference.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Never noticed it.
Bloodborne from the very start has had awful frame pacing issues. They've released several patches since launch. Not one of them addressed the problem. In fact the issue showed up in the Dark Souls 3 beta. I have no faith in FROM to ever fix it, and at this point I have no faith in Nintendo that they'll fix the issue in Mario Kart.
Yeah, it really boggles the mind that not everybody is like me, erm, I mean you.
64!
Teletraan1
Banned
The stuttering that barely anybody can even notice
That is a shitty excuse though. People do notice it. Just because a majority of people don't doesn't make it a non issue for those who do. That line of thinking would have us remove colorblind modes from games or rip out unused handicap parking or braille.
Not that I expect anyone to care. Same excuses were made for Bloodborne's poor frame pacing. Those who didn't notice or were not susceptible to it bothering them were too much of a fan to have any empathy to anyone else. In some cases these types of things or the FOV can be the cause of motion sickness or headaches. But fuck those people right
Dr. Buni
Member
Neither have most people who played the game.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Mario Kart 8 stutters? Is it possible you have a bum disc or something?
You're not qualified to make this assessment.
Simbabbad
Member
Right. On a gaming forum like NeoGAF which dedicates entire threads to issues like this, the enormous majority doesn't see it, but it's completely plausible the wide audience totally notices it.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Good to see people still not getting why this is an issue. LOL IT'S JUST ONE FRAME LOLLOLOLOLOL.
I noticed it before the Digital Foundry article and cannot unsee it. Thankfully, I don't usually notice it while playing since I'm focused on the race, but it's definitely an issue.
So you're saying the OP has some kind of deficiency?
It's not at all comparable. This extremely minor "issue" shouldn't stop the OP from enjoying the game. There's a lot of other legit stuff to complain about.
lol how is it an issue then?
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
He said he still loves the game.
And this is a legit issue. It's not "extremely minor" if you notice it all the time.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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The frameskip only appears when playing with bots.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know with a fair degree of certainty that most people can't notice a duplicate frame every 64 frames when there is AI present.
The stuttering that barely anybody can even notice
Shameful.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that if a game has a frame pacing issue then everyone sees it. It just doesn't bother some people the way it does someone else. For me, I noticed it immediately in Mario Kart. Nintendo games are usually incredibly smooth, so it was jarring to see this.