1m in sales would be cool.
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Metroid: Samus Returns (Mercury Steam, Metroid 2 reimagining, 9/15) announced for 3DS
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1m in sales would be cool.
I disagree. Other M is a completely different problem than FF.
TheDinoman
Member
At the end of the day, Federation Force was just a fart in the wind. It was some low key spinoff that, in hindsight, obviously wasn't being used to determine the fate of the franchise, considering we got two new proper Metroid games (both 2D and Prime) announced not even a year later after it released.
Other M, on the other hand, was meant to be a big deal. It was apart of the "mainline" Metroid series helmed by Sakamoto and was even the first one on a home console since Super Metroid on the SNES (Prime is considered a "side story"). Nintendo put a lot of money into it, collaborating with a bunch of companies for its development and advertising the fuck out of it (with a nice live action commercial)...and it completely blew up in their faces. So much to the point where the series fell back into limbo for like six years.
Chittagong
Gold Member
I think it will sell really well. It's the first 'real' Metroid in absolute ages, so the fanbase is starved. Plus it looks really good. The only downside is that it's on 3DS
It is honestly worse. The only thing i will give it was that the petition to cancel it was dumb and the timing was unfortunate. But the game is so horrible that the only way to have any semblance of fun is to have at least 3-4 players but that is much easier said than done considering how terrible the online is and knowing people who own let alone want to play Federation Force is extremely rare. I am still in shock that Next level developed it. LM2 was great and looked fantastic and FF just looks like garbage. All made worse that even Hunters a 2006 game released on the original DS looks much better. I cant think of a single Nintendo game that is worse and i cant believe there are some people who are defending it.
The game was embarrassing and i dont blame anybody for doubting Tanabe because of it. Of course there is every bit of a chance that he will deliver with Prime 4 but that remains to be seen doubly so since Retro is not working on it.
FF is a spinoff from day 0. Other M was going to be the next big thing after Prime 3.
True but that is not a great excuse for a bad game with a 50 dollar price tag. Plus Nintendo never said it was a spinoff at least to the Prime games. It is more in line with something like Peace Walker for comparison which was a mainline MGS game despite not having a number and tied directly into MGSV narrative wise. Something that Federation Force also seemingly does if the ending to that game is any indication. Its less of a harmless spinoff than people like to admit. It being also the only "Metroid" game released after Other M is even a bigger indication.
Do we need you to be defensive again? Let people discuss, this is a forum.
TheShinobi
Neo Member
I think people have been discussing that more than the actual gameplay. As far as I can tell the game looks great so far, the only thing im worried about is how balanced the counter will be. Cant wait for September!!
TheMoon
Member
I'm being annoyed, not defensive. It's simply a tired topic, especially since we've done the dance in this thread already to exhaustion so there really is no need to dig this up yet again.
Spring-Loaded
Member
*annoying
TheMoon
Member
Same.
I think this launch could be a good opportunity to test Metroid's true popularity without any disadvantages like bad timing or an unpopular platform. I mean the sub-genre the series helped create is already stablished as one of the most popular in the indie space, and people are very, VERY starved for a 2D Metroid, plus the 3DS has a respectable install base and with stuff like the 2DS even people who don't own one already could bite.
I mean, I'm not expecting it to be a mega hit, but it should do decently enough.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Well how have the last few main 3DS games been selling? I wouldnt count on samus returns to be any sort of measurement for metroid popularity. Hopefully it does good.
Prime 3 is a better Fusion than Fusion.
The games are hilariously similar in their pros and cons. Prime 3 benefits because spectacle on the Wii is a lot more impressive than spectacle on the GBA.
blue_phazon
Member
I still can't believe we're getting a real Metroid game within 2 months!
It's been what...10+ years?
It's been what...10+ years?
not sarcasm
Metroid Prime 3 came out in August of 2007, so almost a decade.
If you mean 2D Metroid, it's been over 13 years since Zero Mission.
blue_phazon
Member
Yeah Prime counts, so I guess almost 10
Shikamaru Ninja
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Hopefully we get another Metroid and Wario Land from this engine. Feed us Sakamoto! We're hungry.
No. I did love what I heard of the remix of Metroid 2's intro theme.
There's a Lower Norfair remix later in the demo, so expect remixes of more than just Metroid 2 tracks. And it's glorious Kenji Yamamoto and Minako Hamano.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Nintendo EPD production team is doing the music for Returns and probably Prime 4.
You have that completely backwards. Prime 1 is mediocre with no great ideas to call its own: done to death environments and bland enemy encounters. Prime 3 is the exact opposite: fantastic game mechanics, great environments, and really fun encounters.
Outside of the final boss, there's nothing Prime does better than 2 or 3. Outside of writing and lore Federation Force is better.
Fucking lmao. Prime 1 is anything but mediocre.
I can only assume that this post is a joke?....
This is a joke right?
The game has a 97 on metacritic bro and if gaf did a 'GOAT' vote, it would for sure be in the top 10.
You are entitled to your opinion I guess, but holy moly, I feel bad for you for not appreciating the GOAT.
Bruce Springsteen
Member
Is this the last big Nintendo produced game for the 3DS?
Why does it sound like a joke?
Prime 1 is vastly overrated. Prime 2 is better in every way. I think Prime 3 is largely better as well, and FF about the same level given its strengths and weaknesses.
Orange. Colored. Pirates.
blue_phazon
Member
Prime 2 is the best prime
All Prime games are prime quality products, but Prime 1 is the primest.
Depends on how you classify Pokémon.
FloweryMarston
Member
B A I T
Shikamaru Ninja
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It's literally produced by Nintendo.
Only certain attacks can be parried, so that will hopefully be a balancing factor.
I mean, given the weird status it has as far as IP ownership is concerned, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that some people view it differently than they do Metroid, which is a 100% Nintendo IP. I'm not one of those people, mind you, but I'm just covering the other angle.
There needs to be a reasonable balance though so that you're still using it though.
My biggest concern is that the bosses seem too easy and boring, but I guess that's what happens with a remake of a GB game. I would hope there's a new boss in there as well.
We definitely need a new Wario Land, it has been too long since Shake It. With Takehiko Hosokawa being involved in Samus Returns I would love his retun to this series too.
-shadow-
Member
Guess I'll see it in 3D once the game is out. Strange decision :/
Bruce Springsteen
Member
Have no interest in the series
TheMoon
Member
Ignoring Pokémon, yes so far.
FloweryMarston
Member
isn't mario & luigi releasing after metroid?
TheMoon
Member
"big" he said. a remaster doesn't really qualify there.
FloweryMarston
Member
it's a remake just like metroid though. I think metroid, mario & luigi and pokémon are the big 3ds games to be released. At least the ones that got media and public attention.
The truth.
Isn't it a remake? Just like this game?
TheMoon
Member
Not to the same degree, which is why I don't count it as a "big" (deal) release. Same reason I haven't mentioned Sushi Striker. That's arguably a bigger deal since it's a new IP launch. MSR is "big" because everything is completely redone from scratch and has gotten a complete overhaul and new content along with reviving a sub-series of a major franchise and Sakamoto's first non-Mii game in the better part of a decade. It's got a bit of a different status to those other games in terms of being a big deal.
pokémon ultra is just a bigger SM. metroid 2 remake is bigger imo