Srey Plaughtered
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That's a shame as the gameplay itself is literally the best ever made. Second to only Souls/Platinum stuff depending on whom you ask.
But I don't blame you now that Konami's actively screwing everyone.
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MGSV: Konami Offline Tax for players who opt out of FOBs
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That's a shame as the gameplay itself is literally the best ever made. Second to only Souls/Platinum stuff depending on whom you ask.
But I don't blame you now that Konami's actively screwing everyone.
BlitzerRadic
Member
No, it will never make you go negative. It only takes a portion of your offline GMP and moves it online. What happens eventually is that your total GMP pool gets bigger because you can have up to 5m offline GMP and I think up to 5m online GMP. So in a way its a good thing if you farm lots of resources and hit the 5m cap regularly (like me).
Also, for all you guys who are worried about getting your shit jacked online all you have to do is not complete the FOB tutorial. You will get all the benefits of FOB and never get invaded. I'm building up my FOBs and base security to the point where eventually they will be level 40 or so so and finish the FOB tutorial. At level 40 your FOB is pretty much uninvadable and you dont even have to defend it.
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We should Save us of all the trouble and just have a Fuck Konami OT
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
It offers a different opinion from what seems to be most people in this thread. You may not like but I see nothing meaningless about it.
Saying something like "I should be able to play the game how I want, full stop, period, the end, end of debate." adds nothing to discussion because apparently it isn't one. Also that's not how most games work.
Looking at all stories with any exposure that sprung from that same update. It's nothing but FOB insurance. As I said, Konami succeed in switching the bait in a less bad one. Still bad, but much more acceptable in terms with the mobile space and it as a new introduction of "feature". Tweaking the resource pool to this extent is not a new "feature" but a stealth change that only fucks w the players for Konami's gain via basically forcing you online or get gimped.
That's like skipping out on The Last of Us because Naughty Dog is dirty. You're only hurting yourself.
Glitchesarecool
Member
We've already got the banner.
Yeah, it sucks. I'm not even at the point where the FOB has been introduced, and the game is still locking a huge portion of my resources and about half my GMP online. Awful.
1 million GMP honestly isn't that much. Just sell some precious metals.
The truth is you were never interested in buying it in the first place.
The truth is you were never interested in buying it in the first place.
I did Mission 22, but I never did the FOB Tutorial. It tries to get me to do it, and I can't get out of the menu when I try, so I no longer play the game online to get the daily rewards. Whoever thought being able to lose your resources is either a massive idiot or a very spiteful bastard, because it's something that I, and probably a lot of players simply don't want to get involved with. There's simply not much upside to it. It's prohibitive as hell and is just a major black mark on the game because it tries to suck you in every time.
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Deleted member 126221
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Buy it used. Don't apply the patch. Have a blast for 100 hours or so. Sell the game back.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Oh well, that explains a lot. Shouldn't have expected much more I guess.
Get out of here you dingus.
LurkerPrime
Member
They're only coming after your money. You know, the thing that is the crux of progression in MGSV.
It's a hostile, anti-player change squarely aimed to make more money at the expense of its player. This is the sort of garbage you see in free-to-play games, not full-price, multi-million-dollar, AAAA+ releases.
It's appalling on all fronts and no one should defend it. Ever. It doesn't matter how good the game is, this action taints it forever. It changes the conversation from "this game is great, but" to "this game would be great, but"
Hero Prinny
Member
wow what a shitty thing to do. fuck konami man. i wish they didn't own the rights to MGS. its a shame its going to die with them and that MGS5 has to suffer because of them.
That statement is literally not meaningless, and it's subjective whether or not you find it adds anything of value to the discussion. From my understanding of the situation this thing seems to be bullshit, so I agree with you right now, but what that dude said was 100% a valid opinion and was fine to voice in a discussion like this.
Eh. I can find stuff like this (and other parts of MGSV) distasteful and insidious while still recognizing it was the most fun I had playing a game this year.
AcceptableGhost
Member
I wonder if it is feasible for someone to just mod this gross stuff out completely...
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Huh. I'm playing it right and it's doesn't feel like that, like at all. So, I guess I'm "defending" it.
Or ones that have played, dealt with hackers, and still think Konami's bait and switch of "TOTALLY OPTIONAL MODE. PROMISE" is scuzzy.
Fuck off with your dismissal, Junior.
bobawesome
Member
If you're on the fence about a game and GAF threads of all things are what push you over the edge to not purchase something, I feel sorry for you. Anyone who's spent more than a day on this forum knows it's perhaps the most hyperbolic place to discuss games.
Don't you know that every anti-Konami thread is little more than a hug box?
O boi u got him
Can you explain how forcing a large percentage of people's GMP and resources into an online-only pool benefits the player?
BlitzerRadic
Member
It raises your GMP cap
FlutterPuffs
Member
Oh please.
Anyway Konami is the worst. This shit is insane and soured me from wanting to even play the game.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Is it possible to just play this game without installing any patches?
IDK I don't see the outrage.
I'm all for the OP playing the game how he wants, but Konami has basically created an ecosystem with FOBs and moving more resources online makes it more beneficial to raid. So the real question is: Should OP be able to play the game the way he wants at the expense of the people who want to use all the features?
Personally, I think OP should just grow a pair, and build a 4/4 command platform with drones and sensors and leave it on max alert. 19/20 people wouldn't mess with it anyway and OP is massively overvaluing the staff he has.
I'm all for the OP playing the game how he wants, but Konami has basically created an ecosystem with FOBs and moving more resources online makes it more beneficial to raid. So the real question is: Should OP be able to play the game the way he wants at the expense of the people who want to use all the features?
Personally, I think OP should just grow a pair, and build a 4/4 command platform with drones and sensors and leave it on max alert. 19/20 people wouldn't mess with it anyway and OP is massively overvaluing the staff he has.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Lmao so you haven't even tried to know that the people in this thread are crying bloody mary over this mode that isn't 1/100 bad as people say it is. You shouldn't even have an opinion then cause you haven't even played
SmartWaffles
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FlutterPuffs
Member
My main reason for not going offline is simple, the menu lags so much that it takes triple the usual time to move between menus.
Worse when my connection is inconsistent because my nephews are watching YouTube, and that shit doesn't make sense because I just want to play single player.
BlitzerRadic
Member
You should accept the agreement, just dont finish the tutorial. Disconnect your internet connection every time you get the prompt and reconnect. You wont get the prompt if you are not in the ACC and you will never be invaded as long as you dont finish the tutorial. You will never be able to develop certain items without an FOB.
NullPointer
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Konami just showing us all whats next in the world of microtransactions and f2p systems.
I think its fair to call MGS V a full on scam at this point, and Konami a den of deceitful ... bastards. I never would have given these folks a solitary dime had I known what they had in store in the way of post-release updates and offers.
Post-release updates with microtransactional bullshit needs to end, like now.
I think its fair to call MGS V a full on scam at this point, and Konami a den of deceitful ... bastards. I never would have given these folks a solitary dime had I known what they had in store in the way of post-release updates and offers.
Post-release updates with microtransactional bullshit needs to end, like now.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
I'm sure this is true but I really don't want to farm in a metal gear game.
Him playing offline doesn't, but what he's actually complaining about is the shift of resources from offline to online. Moving these resources online makes it way more beneficial for people to raid.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Let's hope it continues to all games.
you can farm fuel by invading easy base development struts in FOB. Got up to 82k usable fuel in not that long of a time by doing that. Hell you can farm any material like this