Just play the game as it was meant to be played. The anti-FOBers are overreacting. The FOB is a net positive even if you get sucessfully invaded every day. There is very little in terms of managing it beyond what you do to manage the regular base because they are tied together.
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MGSV: Konami Offline Tax for players who opt out of FOBs
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Just play the game as it was meant to be played. The anti-FOBers are overreacting. The FOB is a net positive even if you get sucessfully invaded every day. There is very little in terms of managing it beyond what you do to manage the regular base because they are tied together.
If you have always played offline you will not be affected, since the GMP you make will not be stored online.
We don't "love" them, but what people don't realise is the game is completely enjoyable without them. I have never touched them and never will. But as soon as people hear about it they say "MICROTRANSACTIONS IN A FULL RETAIL GAME FUCK OFF KONAMI YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING". No they haven't.
Yes you can lose resources and staff, but they are so plentiful that it doesn't matter if your FOB gets invaded when you can replenish staff and resources easily, in multiple ways.
The ability to invade other bases and take the risk of them invading you in retaliation adds a fun dimension to the game, and yet people are so reluctant to try out something new and lose their "precious" resources that they write it off as soon as they hear about microtransations.
Of All Trades
Member
For the bloo a blooing about micromanaging the FOB you people better stop playing now cause you're going to weep blood from micromanaging the outbreak.
A Hideo Kojima Game.
A Hideo Kojima Game.
Haunted
Member
One of the few games that got worse with every patch and added "feature".
Of All Trades
Member
Honestly at this point I barely care. Fuck Konami.
And before anybody whines about jobs, I'd like to remind people that the market doesn't disappear when shitty pubs/devs do. Their absence either creates a place for new and better replacements, or removes shitty games that turn casuals away from core gaming and redistributes money to decent games.
The idea that studios no matter their output should be revered is crazy. Nobody ever left gaming because the hacks at Robomodo will close down. Wishing the end of Konami just means more money for non-cunt developers/publishers.
And before anybody whines about jobs, I'd like to remind people that the market doesn't disappear when shitty pubs/devs do. Their absence either creates a place for new and better replacements, or removes shitty games that turn casuals away from core gaming and redistributes money to decent games.
The idea that studios no matter their output should be revered is crazy. Nobody ever left gaming because the hacks at Robomodo will close down. Wishing the end of Konami just means more money for non-cunt developers/publishers.
You really can't tell the difference between them?
Of All Trades
Member
Actually each patch makes the game better because it means more and more people might quit before Mission 45 where a character is saved by the healing power of attempted(?) rape. And right now you can trade it back to Best Buy for $35 ($38.50 with GCU)!
A Hideo Kojima Game.
chronic_archaic
Member
I noticed this happening to me the other day when I kept frequently disconnecting from their servers. And yes, I would go into negative GMP if I was low overall. Didn't know it affected other stuff in the game. Just a bit stupid. Or a lot stupid.
nkarafo
Member
Of All Trades
Member
Oh, I can. FOBs were far less annoying to manage.
I mean, I get that the main theme of the game is that the Diamond Dogs are total fucking losers who are happy to be kidnapped to no-sex sausage party panopticon island, and Skull Face is a moron, and Venom Snake is also a moron, and Ocelot is bored being there, and Miller, well Miller is actually breaking theme because he has some good ideas with haburga franca, and Huey is doing everyone a favor, so technically being forced to sort through ~1000 soldiers slowly selecting them one by one for a non-sortable trait is keeping with the idea that I, the player, am also a total fucking loser.
But for fucks sake let me sort the cause.
A Hideo Kojima Game.
KaoteK
Member
A couple of people are saying of you decline the TOS this won't happen, can anyone confirm this?
I'm gonna replay the game from scratch, but only if you can completely opt out by doing this (I was even considering deleting it and playing it unpatched)
This is bullshit even by Konami's standards and I'm really close to just fucking selling my copy because of this.
I'm gonna replay the game from scratch, but only if you can completely opt out by doing this (I was even considering deleting it and playing it unpatched)
This is bullshit even by Konami's standards and I'm really close to just fucking selling my copy because of this.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Theoretically couldn't I delete the patches and continue playing the game offline without any of that nuisance?
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Gets them every time.
Yeah, this crap is so screwed up.
Before I'd keep a certain amount of vehicles/weapons, and then, if I go over it, I'd sell that amount when I get low on resources. Now all my shit is online, forcing me to jump through all these damn hoops to use stuff I've accumulated from only playing single player - which has brought my GMP grinding to a halt, effectively killing research.
It's just a dumb fucking barrier to put between the player and the game they're trying to enjoy. I no longer feel like a badass running some awesome mercenary troop. I feel like a customer waiting to be exploited by a company that gives fuck all on whether or not I enjoy their game and just wants my money.
Sure, most companies are like that, but at least most of the others try to hide the fact that they see you as nothing more than a walking pile of money.
Before I'd keep a certain amount of vehicles/weapons, and then, if I go over it, I'd sell that amount when I get low on resources. Now all my shit is online, forcing me to jump through all these damn hoops to use stuff I've accumulated from only playing single player - which has brought my GMP grinding to a halt, effectively killing research.
It's just a dumb fucking barrier to put between the player and the game they're trying to enjoy. I no longer feel like a badass running some awesome mercenary troop. I feel like a customer waiting to be exploited by a company that gives fuck all on whether or not I enjoy their game and just wants my money.
Sure, most companies are like that, but at least most of the others try to hide the fact that they see you as nothing more than a walking pile of money.
nkarafo
Member
To be fair, with all your condescending replies and your MG avatar, its easy for someone to mistake you for a fanboy who would defend anything in the series.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
The condescending comes natural but you really shouldn't judge people by their appearance.
Also, I would never "defend" anything I like especially the MGS series that has terrible stuff like MGS4 and Peace Walker.
Bl@de
Member
So how is the situation on PC? Are there mods to remove the stupid offline ressource limits? I would really like to block the game in the firewall but still play it without any bullshit from Konami. And isn't PC multiplayer full of hacks/cheaters so it's stupid to force other people online who just want to play the game?
Have no problem waiting though, still at Peace Walker.
Have no problem waiting though, still at Peace Walker.
Yea I just tested this as well. I lost a little bit of GMP (Around 500k out of the 5 mil cap), but all my vehicles were still there. Though I stopped the FOB process during the tutorial.
I also did a few side ops, quit the game and then reloaded it to check if I was losing GMP and I still had the same amount.
BossDarkseid
Member
Fuck Konami
The condescending comes natural but you really shouldn't judge people by their appearance.
Also, I would never "defend" anything I like especially the MGS series that has terrible stuff like MGS4 and Peace Walker.
I was judging you on your condescending replies. You come off a little stuck up. If you don't like that, don't post like that.
KaoteK
Member
Got to laugh at the people defending it.
Here's a thought, if Konami really wanted to get people playing the FOB stuff, how about they reward the people who play it instead of punishing those of us who couldn't care less about it?
You know, carrot instead of stick?
Oh that's right, it's because they give zero shits about having a healthy online and only care about making more money.
#fuckonami
Here's a thought, if Konami really wanted to get people playing the FOB stuff, how about they reward the people who play it instead of punishing those of us who couldn't care less about it?
You know, carrot instead of stick?
Oh that's right, it's because they give zero shits about having a healthy online and only care about making more money.
#fuckonami
holygeesus
Banned
I played the game for 91 hours and was never invaded once, so it might just not be a problem if playing on the PC anyway.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
MGS4 and Peace Walker are masterpieces compared to the travesty that is MGSV. Not even kidding one bit.The condescending comes natural but you really shouldn't judge people by their appearance.
Also, I would never "defend" anything I like especially the MGS series that has terrible stuff like MGS4 and Peace Walker.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
I don't mind it. I never purposely try to condescending it just comes out that way.
Thats great! Im glad you enjoyed those games but for me MGSV is a masterpiece.
KaoteK
Member
The eldritch gods have something to say about that...
No, but you can apparently easily cheat by backing up your savefile. Didn't do it myself, because that would be more of a hassle for me than just to take it. (Also I'm done anyways)
Time to take a vacation to cyprus
Dick Justice
Banned
Fuck anyone trying to defend this bullshit. Capping your offline resources to push you to to play online is a scummy move, especially as they decided to do it in a patch and keep it and their fucking insurance scheme from being critiqued early on.
There are mods to get around some of the shitty design decisions, like sped up development times and combat deployment.
There are mods to get around some of the shitty design decisions, like sped up development times and combat deployment.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Your so angry all the time.
Dick Justice
Banned
And you're so condescending and defensive of shitty corporate practices all the time. But that's the world we live in.
He's playing a character I'm convinced. His presence is usually associated with silliness and love of F2P mobile or Konami presented without reasoning. It's an attempt to be the "other side". When I say -character- I mean I hope he's just impersonating that guy we all know who gets off being the guy who isn't willing to agree with anything.
Bl@de
Member
Thanks. Just clicked through the Nexus and there are already 150+ mods for MGSV. So it should be just a matter of time.
barneystuta83
Member
Gotta buy dat FOB insurance. Yer...
I had edited my resources and they were all set back to 0 with the patch even though I still should have had some left over from finding them in the world. Well screw that, I just went into offline mode again and re-edited my resources ;p. Then sold a bunch of precious metals to make up for the money they stole from me. Luckily, I finished all the main missions other than 45 and uninstalled the damn game.
This is just insane, that they're actually going in and changing the offline game like this in order to push people to play online.
It's just disgusting!
It should be illegal for someone to actually go and modify a product you've bought and paid for after the fact. At least you should be able to go back to a previous version.
It's just disgusting!
It should be illegal for someone to actually go and modify a product you've bought and paid for after the fact. At least you should be able to go back to a previous version.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
I guess. Seems a little dramatic.
Nope. These are my honest opinions. The only time I attempt to be the "other side" is when I make jokes that people take seriously for some reason.
FranXico
Member
Updated the OP, the only way to always play offline is by rejecting the terms of service at boot time.
Allowing the game to login and then disconnecting will make you lose resources, regardless of whether you have built an FOB or not.
moffattron9000
Member
You fuckers got it easy. Once a day, the game takes about an hour or two for maintenance. In New Zealand, this lines up at around 8pm, As a result, the way that they keep trying to get you to play at the ideal time to play it will not work. Fuck that.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Wtf, I don't understand but Jesus
I played the game at launch and got ~60 hours but I don't recal this happening to me personally.
I played the game at launch and got ~60 hours but I don't recal this happening to me personally.
texhnolyze
Banned
Wtf, I don't understand but Jesus
I played the game at launch and got ~60 hours but I don't recal this happening to me personally.
It has just included in the latest patch.
As I understand it, it's there to 'complement' their FOB insurance offer.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
This game just gets more and more depressing. After getting bored just after completed chapter 1 I think I'll trade this back in. What a disappointing game, on all fronts.