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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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feynoob
Gold Member
While I get that best way moving forward for Sony would be for this merger to not happen, I really think that they missed huge opportunity to get as much as they can from situation because they were dead set on blocking it.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Then we're pretty much aligned, actually. Totally agree.
Zok310
Banned
Failed regulation. How you allowed to buy the pub that ships and makes the most revenue on your direct competitor platform is madness to me.
Worst part is ftc could not make that argument in nearly 2 years. Regulators dropped the ball.
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feynoob
Gold Member
Former FTC chair explains why Microsoft prevailed in Activision merger case
Former acting FTC chair William Kovacic explains why the Federal Trade Commission lost its preliminary injunction hearing in the Activision merger case.
www.tweaktown.com
Varteras
Gold Member
Won't dispute that. This is her face at the age of 83.
Kilau
Gold Member
feynoob
Gold Member
reinking
Gold Member
I don't think they could get much and they know that. Any deals being made now are at best a band aid. I think they were all in because they are aware of how much revenue this is going to cost them in the future regardless of what band aid deal they make now.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Former FTC chair explains why Microsoft prevailed in Activision merger case
Former acting FTC chair William Kovacic explains why the Federal Trade Commission lost its preliminary injunction hearing in the Activision merger case.
This is spot-on. And imagine had they pressed for more deals rather than just crossing their arms and saying "No!"
If they're severely underfunded and outgunned, they've got to change the strategy.
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So you really want to tell me that extension of marketing agreement that would block day one Call of Duty GamePass releases for several more years would not benefitted Sony?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They were given the chance to have exclusive marketing for CoD beyond 2024 but Jim refused. They would have had who knows how many years more of exclusively showing CoD at their shows, ads, exclusive hardware bundles etc.
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Solidus_T
Member
Also from what we have seen, many of these deals include a way for Microsoft to back out at any time - so it's best to just fight against the acquisition so they are not in the position to control the biggest 3rd party releases.
cebri.one
Member
xellos2099alpha
Member
They would need a certain Merchant Saint there.
reinking
Gold Member
First of all, we are not sure they could have blocked it on Game Pass passed the current Activision deal. Second of all, yes, in the long-term, I expect Sony will lose COD or at least have a lesser version than MS. They will lose significant revenue from that. I don't think any deal MS was offering was going to prevent that so Sony went all in. I can be wrong. I just think they had reasons to believe it was all or nothing.
feynoob
Gold Member
Outrage on behalf of company that doesn't care about nothing but money.
Same as how Xbox fans are acting on twitter like this deal is a heaven for them.
Brand loyalty is something.
reinking
Gold Member
Who offered them exclusive marketing passed 2024? What were the details of the offer? As far as I knew MS was only offering the infamous 10-year deal.They were given the chance to have exclusive marketing for CoD beyond 2024 but Jim refused. They would have had who knows how many years more of exclusively showing CoD at their shows, ads, exclusive hardware bundles etc.
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
Common sense prevails. The best decision for gaming as a whole was made today. Walled garden Sony can eat it. Their vision of the future of gaming is locking everyone into a digital only console that you can only buy from them through their Direct store while having the consumer in a choke hold at their mercy of their monopolistic digital storefront.
Maybe Jim Ryan will go back to actually doing something productive.
Maybe Jim Ryan will go back to actually doing something productive.
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feynoob
Gold Member
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Should someone tell him
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
MS was open to a 10 year COD deal with Sony too. Although it doesn't say if it's an additional 10 years, or if the 10 years includes Sony's current 2 years left. And the invitation was in Dec 2022. So lots of time to iron out a deal. Sony balked at the offer. So they preferred hoping the FTC/CMA would win and MS/Activision trash the acquisition outright.
A long term COD deal would be great since it would go into even PS6 territory. Sony wouldnt have to worry about no COD until PS7.
Microsoft extends offer to Sony for 10-year deal over Call of Duty video game
Microsoft's bid to buy Activision Blizzard has rivals worried about the fate of the hyper-popular game franchise.
www.cbsnews.com
Microsoft extends offer to Sony for 10-year deal over Call of Duty video game
DECEMBER 7, 2022 / 2:27 PM / CBS/APMicrosoft agreed Wednesday to make the hit video game Call of Duty available on rival platform Nintendo for 10 years if its $69 billion purchase of game maker Activision Blizzard goes through. It made a similar offer to rival Sony, which has raised concerns about the Activision purchase.
The blockbuster merger is facing close scrutiny from regulators in the U.S., Europe and elsewhere. Microsoft, maker of the Xbox game console, faces resistance from Sony, which makes the competing PlayStation console and has raised concerns with antitrust watchdogs about losing access to what it calls a "must-have" game title.
Phil Spencer, the head of Xbox, tweeted that Microsoft "entered into a 10-year commitment" to bring Call of Duty to Nintendo.
Open to "10-year deal for PlayStation"
Microsoft President Brad Smith tweeted his thanks to Nintendo, which makes the Switch game console, saying the same 10-year offer was available for Sony."Any day
Sony
wants to sit down and talk, we'll be happy to hammer out a 10-year deal for PlayStation as well," he said.Smith said the agreement would bring Call of Duty to more gamers and more platforms, and "that's good for competition and good for consumers."
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feynoob
Gold Member
Zok310
Banned
In reality Sony likely to triple down on exclusive. 20% of their profits come from SIE and folks think sony themself is going to call up Jim and tell him no more 3rd party deals?
pffft, some of yall need to wake up because its clear as day that we are about to enter a content exclusion war.
reinking
Gold Member
So, it was Activisition that made the offer? I wonder if MS could break that agreement once they take over? (Honestly asking, not being a smart ass). Like I said, I think Sony felt they had to go all in.
Sleepwalker
Member
I think this is over, its been an honor gentlemen.
The real acquisition was the friends and memes made along the way.
The real acquisition was the friends and memes made along the way.
drganon
Member
feynoob
Gold Member
You are not training your soldiers very well.
Jim is mad at you.
Look at what Phil is doing to him.
Gambit2483
Member
More IP to mismanage and kill off. Great, a true day for celebration!
I wonder how MS will feel when this acquisition does nothing to significantly increase their hardware sales
I wonder how MS will feel when this acquisition does nothing to significantly increase their hardware sales
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If an offer was made and accepted, and signed, MS would not have any other option but to honor it (see Deathloop, Ghostwire). For a case like Indiana Jones, they would have had to renegotiate with Sony, and I doubt Sony would have said sure why not, take away our marketing.
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Regulators shouldn't care about what's best for Sony, they should care about what's best for gamers.
They don't, which is why they chose to block, but thankfully the courts do, and overruled them.
The acquisition is best for gamers, so should proceed.
Sanepar
Member
In 2 years(since nothing will change on the scope of hw sales this gen) they will say they need EA or T2 to compete, will pay everyone and regulators will allow.
Varteras
Gold Member
LordCBH
Member
More IP to mismanage and kill off. Great, a true day for celebration!
I wonder how MS will feel when this acquisition does nothing to significantly increase their hardware sales
“Well you see, your honor, this is why we need to purchase EA.”
skit_data
Member
I knew it, they are clearly using Genetically Modified gamers to do their astroturfing
Sanepar
Member
Where majority of console players are? Sorry but this argument is so stupid. You are enforcing consumers to move to a new platform if u make 3rd party content exclusive.
feynoob
Gold Member
This was both MS and Activision.
They wanted Sony to accept that 10 year COD deal along side the marketing rights.
93xfan
Banned
MS has a lot of leverage. Exclusive CoD beta on Xbox or even early access on Xbox. Even if Sony isn’t pressured, Sony may not have such a market lead and it may be much harder for them to convince companies to exclude Xbox.
FrankWza
Member
Proof?
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Ar¢tos
Member
I think the line of thought is that blocking COD on PlayStation at the moment, with the big gap in install base, would basically kill COD (not remove COD from existing but turning it into a much smaller game) and takeaway a big benefit from the merger for Xbox.
Not gonna happen because COD makes too much money for Sony.
93xfan
Banned
ManaByte
Gold Member
It’s published by MLB Advanced Media on Xbox and Switch, not Sony.
Pipoqueiro
Member
you just forgot to mention that all microtransaction profits, and even game sales, would stay with microsoft;MS was open to a 10 year COD deal with Sony too. Although it doesn't say if it's an additional 10 years, or if the 10 years includes Sony's current 2 years left. And the invitation was in Dec 2022. So lots of time to iron out a deal. Sony balked at the offer. So they preferred hoping the FTC/CMA would win and MS/Activision trash the acquisition outright.
A long term COD deal would be great since it would go into even PS6 territory. Sony wouldnt have to worry about no COD until PS7.
Microsoft extends offer to Sony for 10-year deal over Call of Duty video game
Microsoft's bid to buy Activision Blizzard has rivals worried about the fate of the hyper-popular game franchise.
Microsoft extends offer to Sony for 10-year deal over Call of Duty video game
DECEMBER 7, 2022 / 2:27 PM / CBS/AP
Microsoft agreed Wednesday to make the hit video game Call of Duty available on rival platform Nintendo for 10 years if its $69 billion purchase of game maker Activision Blizzard goes through. It made a similar offer to rival Sony, which has raised concerns about the Activision purchase.
The blockbuster merger is facing close scrutiny from regulators in the U.S., Europe and elsewhere. Microsoft, maker of the Xbox game console, faces resistance from Sony, which makes the competing PlayStation console and has raised concerns with antitrust watchdogs about losing access to what it calls a "must-have" game title.
Phil Spencer, the head of Xbox, tweeted that Microsoft "entered into a 10-year commitment" to bring Call of Duty to Nintendo.
Open to "10-year deal for PlayStation"
Microsoft President Brad Smith tweeted his thanks to Nintendo, which makes the Switch game console, saying the same 10-year offer was available for Sony.
"Any day
Smith said the agreement would bring Call of Duty to more gamers and more platforms, and "that's good for competition and good for consumers."
microsoft move with an absurd offer to pass the image of good
tmlDan
Member
Im convinced these neo members and some regulars are bots at this point, do you all say the same thing? can you not think for yourself?
It's like you copy paste it off twitter and put it everywhere
FrankWza
Member
That applies to being on gamepass. Not on individual platforms. Unless there's a PC version somewhere?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
MLB doesn't have PC releases.. MLB AM (advanced Media) publishes both the Switch and Xbox (retail release separate from game pass) as well. Sony does not publish those versions, they only publish the PS4/5 version.
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