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Microsoft: Our (1st party) games will render at native 4K at Scorpio launch
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Jigolo
Member
I personally think it is. Noticeably sharper and more detail. And since pretty much only 4K TVs are HDR compatible, that's an entirely different thing that in addition to the resolution bump makes the image look even better.
Games should start targeting DCI-P3 like movies since the hardware is there now.
No, it's more like, why buy an Xbox One when these specs are being put out there with no one having seem the system ... But it's not really the next-gen, so they're hamstringing themselves for the rest of this generation. It was just way too early, it's going to hurt them in market share, and give Sony an even further lead. It's just strange. I mean, if they had only announced the slim, I might have purchased one around Christmas ... But now, why? It's just weird. They should be in Scorpio silence mode and pushing the slim for the holidays.
Where's your couch? In the neighbours house?
For streamed video, I get this, but not for games. Unless you're baiting here and if so, you've hooked me.
Mikey Jr.
Member
Too good to be true? Huh?
It's coming a year later and it'll be a premium price.
Too good to be true, lol.
Greatest Ever
Member
Gamers care about a company lying for like a week and move on.
Get_craycray
Banned
PeterLegend
Member
keyword first party, more graphically intense 3rd party games will be uprendered or upscaled whatever fancy term you want
To be fair, releasing a 4K console is a great marketing tagline which will set them above anything in a year.
newtypepilot
Member
I expect the frame rate to be bad and the graphic settings have to be lowered.
Currently, the only video card that can run 4k at max settings in stable 60 fps is the $1200 Titan XP. I doubt the Scorpio will be anywhere near a Titan XP.
Currently, the only video card that can run 4k at max settings in stable 60 fps is the $1200 Titan XP. I doubt the Scorpio will be anywhere near a Titan XP.
Self_Destructive
Member
lol... MS has had the best selling console in NA for the last 2 months.
Is Sony hamstringing themselves with their Slim and PS4 Pro? Are you buying either?
The Scorpio coming next year gives the One S a bit of breathing room, and if you want UHD Blu-ray then there's only one option.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
I continue to be floored by the fervent belief in Scorpio.
They gave you one number and repeated enough times to get you to believe the unit is the second coming. Marketing.
Self_Destructive
Member
There will be Scorpio exclusive games in the future.. mark my words.
Regardless, it's not going to be hamstrung any worse than PC already is. It's a relatively cheap box afterall...
This was my thinking. I don't see how that machine couldn't run an x1 game at 4k if people can already do it today with their pc counterparts.
Complicated
Banned
Cool that they're being this concrete so far away from launch. Hope it doesn't come back to haunt them. Definitely looking forward to Scorpio.
Malcolm9
Member
Because the old stock (original Xbox One) has been dramatically cut in price that's why.
If you are looking to buy an Xbox it's pointless picking up an S knowing full well the Scorpio is out next year.
Self_Destructive
Member
And yet Sony throwing 4K in the title of every Pro game doesn't floor you at all, I imagine?
OdysseusVA
Banned
Cant wait for the PS5 to do 4k/60
Ghost Slayer
Member
Didn't Spencer promise there won't be any Scorpio exclusives at E3?
nobody sad they will target for 4K60fps. You will get Xbox 1party games at nativ 4k with no additional visual upgrades and MAYBE a 1080p with more stuff at 30 fps and 1080p/60fps.
They have to do this nativ 4k shit for exclusive 1party because of their marketing. the rest will similar to what the developers will do for the ps4pro.
i hope that the scorpio will get patches for BF1, Mass Effect ect. also and not only for games that will come in 1 year
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
This thing is gonna be expensive.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
What does this even have to do with what I said? One system exists, the other doesn't.
Take that console flag waving shit elsewhere or get blocked. I'm not here for it.
Eurogamer / Digital Foundry believes it'll be a downclocked Vega GPU, because although larger and more complex than Polaris, Vega can be clocked lower than Polaris would have to be in order to reach 6 TFlops
Edit:
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-xbox-one-project-scorpio-spec-analysis
Kilau
Member
There may be Scorpio only games, it wouldn't surprise me or upset me. As others have said, if there are enough options between versions it may not be necessary for Scorpio exclusives.
SneakersSO
Member
They aren't. Not yet, anyway.
Self_Destructive
Member
I'm sure he has. However, you have to advance the hardware at some point. It wont happen right away, but it will happen eventually once the hardware reaches a certain adoption level.
Same thing will happen with PS4 Pro being required when PS5 releases. Or something along those lines.
Gamezone
Gold Member
It`s pretty close. I might need to get my eyes checked, but I want extra details and features more than resolution.
Portugeezer
Member
4k the most important thing when barely anyone owns a 4k TV. Seems good.
Please give some examples because the person you quoted had many doubts himself. I don't see any outrageous claims in here at all.
Nocturno999
Member
Let's just assume that they can achieve 4k @ 30FPS. It's unlikely that it's going to be sustainable after a couple of years.
Personally, it's like night and day for me and really detracts from my gaming experience. I sit about 2m away from a 40" 1080p Samsung.
Regarding your personal preference, I'd agree now without any examples of what the 4k output would look like. I said it in the other thread, but it would be stupidly stupid to not have 1080p profiles for Scorpio.
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
I quoted him because I understood his viewpoint...
Ghost Slayer
Member
Errr, isn't it a lie for both companies to say if Pro/Scorpio have exclusive games in the future?
Shambalakan
Member
Phil Spencer (2014):
Phil was right about frame rate and I hope they make most of the Scorpio games 60fps, not 4K/30fps.
Phil was right about frame rate and I hope they make most of the Scorpio games 60fps, not 4K/30fps.
Self_Destructive
Member
Developers were coding for PS4 Pro before the public even knew about it... imagine that.
Maybe people in the right positions know more than you do about the subject, and just because it hasn't been announced yet doesn't mean that it's not capable...
You're the 'things don't exist until I can see them' type eh? That's fine.. but you seem awfully upset that people believe that MS can do it. Maybe you should look at your own flag waving shit?
ShutterMunster
Junior Member
Yeah...goodbye.
Moving on: There will probably be "exclusive" games for both boxes, but in the old iPhone sort of way, which kinda makes them look less like exclusives.
Hype? This is a important piece of new information, she's hardly hyping he's just stating what they're going for. It's not like he's all like OMG Scorpio is a monster the 4k games look amazing.
Ok, but as stated before you've said that people are treating this console like the second coming of christ but there's no examples of that at all.
Self_Destructive
Member
Adios 
Hawk269
Member
lol. get your eyes checked.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I'll believe it when I see it, or when the price tag on this thing is $700.
Either that or it'll be some PR thing where native 4K titles are limited to a few lower fidelity less effects intensive titles.
If a $650 GPU with a $300 processor is what it takes now to do 4K/30fps in games like Grand Theft Auto 5, Shadow of Mordor, Dirt Rally, etc. I really think it'll be impossible for them to boast the same for under $500.
Remember that with planning this thing for next holiday the specs have to be set within the next 6 months at the maximum. GTX1080 is getting between 40-50FPS in highly demanding, modern titles at 4K.
At console prices you're looking at something closer to the 970 and looking at benchmarks for 4K, you're digging back into the 360/PS3 library for titles that hit a solid 30FPS at that resolution.
There's more to it than just resolution too, if you're still running games like the witcher on medium PC settings, but 4K instead of 900p, what's the real appeal? lower quality assets at higher resolution? Does it have the power to also do higher quality assets and effects at 4K to justify the resolution bump?
Either that or it'll be some PR thing where native 4K titles are limited to a few lower fidelity less effects intensive titles.
If a $650 GPU with a $300 processor is what it takes now to do 4K/30fps in games like Grand Theft Auto 5, Shadow of Mordor, Dirt Rally, etc. I really think it'll be impossible for them to boast the same for under $500.
Remember that with planning this thing for next holiday the specs have to be set within the next 6 months at the maximum. GTX1080 is getting between 40-50FPS in highly demanding, modern titles at 4K.
At console prices you're looking at something closer to the 970 and looking at benchmarks for 4K, you're digging back into the 360/PS3 library for titles that hit a solid 30FPS at that resolution.
There's more to it than just resolution too, if you're still running games like the witcher on medium PC settings, but 4K instead of 900p, what's the real appeal? lower quality assets at higher resolution? Does it have the power to also do higher quality assets and effects at 4K to justify the resolution bump?
She. Let's acknowledge the few women we have in IT / gaming.