I have to keep reminding myself that this game was massively delayed AND STILL released in a completely unacceptable state. Major performance issues across platforms, significant gameplay bugs, borked download codes, last minute port delays, awful review scores...this game was just left for dead. What did that $4M actually go to?
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Mighty No. 9 |OT| The Blue Bomba
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SonicMegaDrive
Member
I'll shit my pants if the next Sonic game is even as good as Mighty No. 9.
Humble will be able to tell if you redeem the code, they probably have a way to tell if you downloaded the client as well.
TheSpoiler
Member
Damn you found the video I was about to post.
And as already stated, these bosses aren't even reactive in the first place. Nor are they all that hard to beat.
Every sonic game is worse than MN09 (and MN09 is bad). It's still funny though.
shadow2810
Member
Mighty no 2. underwater stage... mah fking eyes
Chip N Chance
Member
Its fun to go back and watch the reaction on GAF when the game was first announced, and how much it has changed upon its release. I guess this is normal for video games nowadays. Im guilty.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666553
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=666553
Infinitemadness
Member
Hi GAF,
I don't know where else to ask, but were physical rewards ever sent out? I was supposed to receive the retro physical game box but don't recall an email about that. Any info would help, I got my digital codes last night. Looking forward to diving in after I beat Doom tonight.
I don't know where else to ask, but were physical rewards ever sent out? I was supposed to receive the retro physical game box but don't recall an email about that. Any info would help, I got my digital codes last night. Looking forward to diving in after I beat Doom tonight.
That's a very valid criticism. These fights would be much better if the enemies reacted in some way besides the "Change Phase" portion that happens halfway through each fight.
T-shirts and posters were sent out, artbooks, boxes, and manuals will be shipping sometime after launch.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Who designed this trash countershade stage!! Boring back and forth backtracking with the most easiest boss fight I've ever seen. Megaman isn't like this right? Making wanna buy the megaman legacy collection to see the difference
MegamanXZero
Member
Oh, I guess I'll be a good guy and wait it out then :/
Zomba13
Member
Anyone know if you can copy over the save file from the DRM free version into the Steam version? Like if you just copy/paste the save file over? I want to actually play some more but I'd rather have progress and such in the Steam version (and the Steam version won't be out here until Friday evening...).
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Mega Man bosses are like Souls bosses. They have complex attacks and movement that go over your head the first time you fight them. There bullet sponges but half the fun is learning how to avoid their attacks and beating them. Finding out their weaknesses is the icing of the cake. MN9's bosses come nowhere close to that.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. So bad.
shadow2810
Member
I found the source of my framedrop/skip... dem flame effect...
RubyEclipse
Sega of America
Remember this moment.
Also, real talk, personal opinion: Regardless of fan reaction, totally respect that the guys behind MN9 probably put a ton of hard work into it. It's easy to poke fun at a game, but much harder to make a good one, and that's a distinction that's important to note. The glass room response cracked me up!
We post stuff to make people laugh, not to offend, so I hope the post didn't hit too hard there, as it's a line that one of their team members used.
If being at SEGA during both good and rough Sonic games has taught me anything, it's that somewhere behind the scenes, right now, there are good people trying to do their very best with what they've been handed surrounding this title.
I hope they can weather this storm, learn from the challenges, and put their very best foot forward afterward!
eso76
Member
Considering the mega man fanbase I wouldn't be surprised to know someone is already working on replacing those graphics with glorious pixel art.
And by glorious I mean 16-bit, not NES-like
Also I kind of feel bad for the devs.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
Remember this moment.
Also, real talk, personal opinion: Regardless of fan reaction, totally respect that the guys behind MN9 probably put a ton of hard work into it. It's easy to poke fun at a game, but much harder to make a good one, and that's a distinction that's important to note. The glass room response cracked me up!
We post stuff to make people laugh, not to offend, so I hope the post didn't hit too hard there, as it's a line that one of their team members used.
If being at SEGA during both good and rough Sonic games has taught me anything, it's that somewhere behind the scenes, right now, there are good people trying to do their very best with what they've been handed surrounding this title.
I hope they can weather this storm, learn from the challenges, and put their very best foot forward afterward!
You better be right! (About the next Sonic title, that is)
ShockingAlberto
Member
Remember this moment.
Also, real talk, personal opinion: Regardless of fan reaction, totally respect that the guys behind MN9 probably put a ton of hard work into it. It's easy to poke fun at a game, but much harder to make a good one, and that's a distinction that's important to note. The glass room response cracked me up!
We post stuff to make people laugh, not to offend, so I hope the post didn't hit too hard there, as it's a line that one of their team members used.
If being at SEGA during both good and rough Sonic games has taught me anything, it's that somewhere behind the scenes, right now, there are good people trying to do their very best with what they've been handed surrounding this title.
I hope they can weather this storm, learn from the challenges, and put their very best foot forward afterward!
Hm.
I don't disagree, really, but I find the "with what they've been handed" part...off, a bit.
They got handed four times their initial request and then a publishing deal. Now, that's not a lot for a game, and it doesn't guarantee smart game design decisions, but it does sort of change the narrative from "everyone tried with meager tools" to "Wait, what was the original plan, then?" They're not at fault, but I want to know how they ended up with such meager tools to begin with.
I don't think the people who made the game in the trenches should suffer any of the blame, but boy, someone should.
IDontBeatGames
Member
That's what everyone's wondering at this point. Obviously, they couldn't have delayed this game again due to the already poor reception it was getting. However, ,if they released current state footage and sent out a survey asking if backers wanted them to delay, maybe that could of saved them.
Or.. maybe that's wishful thinking.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I'm quoting this just in case
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Cryo: "Ice to see you Beck." "You're on thin ice here, runt, so try not to get cold feet, ok?"
I see Inafune is a fan of Batman and Robin.
Edit: "Ok, let's try this again. After all, revenge is a dish best served cold!"
THIS WRITING.
I see Inafune is a fan of Batman and Robin.
Edit: "Ok, let's try this again. After all, revenge is a dish best served cold!"
THIS WRITING.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
Huh? I can't imagine you actually thought about that before you said it.
I'd have been so much happier if everyone in the game just STFU
I could write a fucking essay about how every sonic game is bad if you wanted. Even the Genesis ones 1 and 2. The theme and style of the game is at odds with the mechanics nad level design. It's just shitty. It's a marketing tactic masquerading as a game
I could write a fucking essay about how every sonic game is bad if you wanted. Even the Genesis ones 1 and 2. The theme and style of the game is at odds with the mechanics nad level design. It's just shitty. It's a marketing tactic masquerading as a game
I, uhh...
It's definitely not a pretty game. I think they were going for a retro-palette 2.5D Bionic Commando Rearmed look, but the final product lacks personality. Things just don't look or feel kinetic or alive.
It's not bad, though. Maybe lackluster enough that the doubters can feel justifiably vindicated, but not the all-out terrible piece of shit a lot are making it out to be.
think it's pretty fun.
It's definitely not a pretty game. I think they were going for a retro-palette 2.5D Bionic Commando Rearmed look, but the final product lacks personality. Things just don't look or feel kinetic or alive.
It's not bad, though. Maybe lackluster enough that the doubters can feel justifiably vindicated, but not the all-out terrible piece of shit a lot are making it out to be.
Bruce Springsteen
Member
Speaking of Kaz Hirai
noooooooooo the best twitter account broke character
first dud I've seen
it'd be fucking wrong tho
TheSpoiler
Member
Has anyone said the game is straight up shit though? Most people are calling it average in the gameplay department with a lot of other technical problems.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
I agree. I only played it for about an hour and beat two bosses, but the game is really fun. It's a nice mix of Mega Man and Mega Man X. If they found a way to fix the stuttering and loading issues, I'd even give it a passing grade.
Yeah, there's moments where I can say this could've been a good game. But it's ugly, even on PC has glaring technical issues, and despite those brief moments where I'm having fun with it, it quickly falls back to mediocrity - flat levels with barely anything going on.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Ok, Cryo is the first boss I find challenging.
BumblebeeCody
Member
Sorry but this game fucking incredible. I'm having so much fun. Just fun and fast paced action shooter with fun Megaman style mechanics. I don't know what anyone else was expecting but this goes beyond what I initially backed. I'm happy that Keiji Inafune got to make the game he wanted and I'm happy with the end result. Only 3 stages in and I'm speedrunning the game.
Edit 1) No I'm not sorry actually
Edit 2) Found some infinite fly tech
Edit 1) No I'm not sorry actually
Edit 2) Found some infinite fly tech
MegamanXZero
Member
stan423321
Member
That's the truth.
Note that it's a completely different thing if you personally don't like Sonic or the games. But they work pretty well at what they're aiming for.
I think enough people are saying "con", "scam", "$4 MILLION" or selling/giving away codes they already paid for without giving the game a chance (though the last point is of course that person's prerogative) that the more nuanced critiques are at least partially being drowned out.
Suzushiiro
Banned
I mean I know the Sonic tweet is sort of a "glass houses" thing, but Sega at least funds their shitty Sonic games out of their own pocket. The only people who paid more than $60 or whatever for Sonic Boom were Sega, you didn't have fans putting in hundreds if not thousands of dollars to fund the game trusting that it would be good.
Red Arremer
Member
Yeah, right.
Nose Master
Member
On the Wily stage equivalents atm, and man. I liked the beta. How it played, anyways.
There's way too many levels (and... boss fights, the fuck) where the platforming and instant death is way harder than it needs to be because of the dash/absorb mechanic.
It feels and looks so unfinished. It plays identical to the beta.
That's super situational to be useful, though.
There's way too many levels (and... boss fights, the fuck) where the platforming and instant death is way harder than it needs to be because of the dash/absorb mechanic.
It feels and looks so unfinished. It plays identical to the beta.
That's super situational to be useful, though.
Nintendo paid for Sonic Boom so Sega doesn't get off lightly here.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The Cryo level is bad but the boss actually requires pattern memorization and quick thinking to defeat it.
You know? Like a Mega Man boss.
You know? Like a Mega Man boss.
Ray's playthrough seems to handle this in a...ok manner...of sorts.
I haven't tried that one yet but I'm really not a fan of how every boss so far seems to have invincibility frames.
Pyro in particular is annoying because of how his attacks all look the same but have no clear pattern, and you only get a second or two for clean shots.
Giolon
Member
You can disable voices in the Options, and also disable all the pop-ups and voice call outs about combos and absorbing.
I did both. =D
TheSpoiler
Member
It's definitely not helping when people aren't pulling in actual points into the discussion. Like I'm guilty of it too, but after awhile it's not like this game isn't a live thing.
I hope people find enjoyment in it all said and done, especially people who've backed it. I guess it's more damning than usual because people used their own money, and the backlash that followed this game all the way to release.
But after a few levels, I'm just feeling too bored to finish it. The gameplay design issues are too big and too glaring for me, and I feel like my time is better spent running through MM games.
Some of the frames on his flamestrails are wonky. And that is another issue I hold with this game - the hitboxes are absolutely awful. It's not a precise game by any means, but it's still annoying.