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Nintendo hits a Metroid fansite with a DMCA Takedown notice, file no longer hosted
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and why would "this" be a reminder
NoFaceNico
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This guy is a totally unreliable source.
He said:
Geee!! Did you try searching the Oregon State Bar Association? Y'know, that place where real lawyers have to be registered??
edit: For some reason my screencap isn't working. Find it here: http://i.imgur.com/UWdgDxw.jpg
Yeah, sure. "ZERO trace" Try again, kid.
SinCityAssassin
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Entirely possible. But for the time being, nothing has happened and people are going into it thinking it already has.
It's almost like Nintendo finally realized that Metroid Database exists (and has for 20 years!!) and had a store and coincidentally went after it the day after the fangame released. But then again, they specifically cite the game's zip file in the letter linked in the article. IDK
Altered Juice
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well i downloaded that shit yesterday so i'm good
also LMAO at people in the other thread giving the backhand to those that mentioned C&D
also LMAO at people in the other thread giving the backhand to those that mentioned C&D
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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MD is back up and the post in question is completely untouched.
MegaByte
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Re: the conspiracy theories about the file only being taken down on MDb:
It was taken off of other mirrors as well. DMCA takedown requests are serviced manually; Nintendo doesn't have a magic wand. I removed it for MDb to protect the other users of the server and was given 72 hours to do so. The remaining sites like MediaFire will likely go down as the requests are reviewed by the respective hosts. Given the specific request for only the game itself to be taken down, it's not clear what will happen to the AM2R blog, but it seems MDb as a fan site is still fine. I understand MDb will be contacting the law firm on Monday to verify whether the request is legitimate.
It was taken off of other mirrors as well. DMCA takedown requests are serviced manually; Nintendo doesn't have a magic wand. I removed it for MDb to protect the other users of the server and was given 72 hours to do so. The remaining sites like MediaFire will likely go down as the requests are reviewed by the respective hosts. Given the specific request for only the game itself to be taken down, it's not clear what will happen to the AM2R blog, but it seems MDb as a fan site is still fine. I understand MDb will be contacting the law firm on Monday to verify whether the request is legitimate.
SinCityAssassin
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For now, all the download sites provided on the dev blog are active, so it's best to get them fast.
Good times with drive-bys.
WaterAstro
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Imagine if they ask Nintendo about it, and the Nintendo responds with a real C&D lol.
SinCityAssassin
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Curse you Jason Allen. Also someone add that to OP.
I imagine they'll be contacting the law office that the claim resonates from.
Even then, the vast majority of FF/CT/DQ fan projects have actually survived compared to the very very few that have been C&D'd.
And even the C&D'd projects typically have other circumstances behind them.
Wasn't it the reverse? Pretty sure Team Ninja wanted nunchuck controls too but Sakamoto was all "NO MAKE IT LIEK CLASSIC METROID. The kind that plays itself and has shitty controls"
Holy Order Sol
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well i downloaded that shit yesterday so i'm good
also LMAO at people in the other thread giving the backhand to those that mentioned C&D
So you're laughing at people who were and are still right? And would still be right even if Nintendo did go after the original source at this point?
what is this idiocy
Bjoern the Smexy
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Nah, man. Mother 4 uses no copyright protected material aside from the name.
Everything in this game is original. I'm pretty sure they're making it with the possibility in mind of simply being able to rename it and maybe swap out some assets so it can get released and experienced no problem.
AM2R on the other hand does use many assets from various Metroid games, both in terms of graphics and sound.
Also while going after a free fan game that creates no profit whatsoever is still a trrible thing to do, please be reminded that it really isn't actually Nintendo taking action here but a law firm acting on Nintendo's behalf.
Nintendo themselves may not even be aware of this takedown.
That came after. The game was being planned/designed as a 2D Metroid game, then Team Ninja made a pitch to make it 3D, Sakamoto approved, then TN went and tried to make it with the Nunchuck despite showing it off using the Wii Remote. Then Sakamoto almost shut the project down.
Well, al that's left is wait until tomorrow and see if the dev team has received any letters I guess. Still, I don't see how is "impulsive" or unreasonable to believe they did, but at the same time people making fun of the ones saying there weren't gonna be any issues is lame because yes, they did have a point even if AM2R ends up getting down entirely.
I remember reading some interviews about it (Iwata Asks, I think?) and Sakamoto wanted to make the game "on rails" and Team Ninja convinced him to make it with more liberty and action. Not sure if it was initially all 2D tho. But hell, pretty much everything decent in the game is thanks to TN, if it wasn't for them Other M would be even worse. Reading up Sakamoto's scrapped ideas for the project is genuinely bizarre coming from a seasoned designer.
I remember reading some interviews about it (Iwata Asks, I think?) and Sakamoto wanted to make the game "on rails" and Team Ninja convinced him to make it with more liberty and action. Not sure if it was initially all 2D tho. But hell, pretty much everything decent in the game is thanks to TN, if it wasn't for them Other M would be even worse. Reading up Sakamoto's scrapped ideas for the project is genuinely bizarre coming from a seasoned designer.
The on-rails part was a mistranslation by Kotaku, and has been pointed out SEVERAL times before that it means side-scroller/2D.
Altered Juice
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just saw the latest twitter post. eh guess we'll find out later today. too late for nintendo anyway if true.
lol dumbass edit. should have left the original post as it was. i mean you were wrong regardless but it looks like you hit reply then started sweatin a second later. doesn't matter if you think they're right because nintendo doesn't go after shitty ass SMW rom hacks. doesn't change the fact that the metroid fan site link got taken down
and that's funny.
lol dumbass edit. should have left the original post as it was. i mean you were wrong regardless but it looks like you hit reply then started sweatin a second later. doesn't matter if you think they're right because nintendo doesn't go after shitty ass SMW rom hacks. doesn't change the fact that the metroid fan site link got taken down
and that's funny.
My general understanding was that Sakamoto originally wanted a purely 2D/2.5D sidescroller that would be controlled with the wiimote held sideways. Team Ninja convinced him to make it with more 3rd person stuff, etc., etc., but he still wanted to keep simplistic control scheme.
TheSpaceBetween
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Nope. Sakamoto wanted the game to be like Pandemonium!/Klonoa. Team Ninja wouldn't budge on the the game not being 3D and Sakamoto wouldn't budge on the control scheme. The two ideas were at odds with each other and that's a big part of why Other M's gameplay could never reach it's potential.
WaterAstro
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Tell that to S-E and that Chrono Trigger thing.
Holy Order Sol
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No, I wasn't wrong and I edited specifically to further drive home the point that I couldn't be regardless of what happened. People were spamming "lol C&D" shit like worthless idiots as if the game would be prevented from being made and released and that didn't happen period. This isn't up for discussion. The game is stiil available.
Well, this guy DID make a better Metroid game than the Federation thing Nintendo is releasing.
-Reggie
It's not the same game, it's not the same content.
-Reggie
Movalpolos
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Oh that's rich Nintendo.
Rich! I tell ya.
Rich! I tell ya.
The file is still up. The post is still up. Neither have been removed from Metroid database or the official blog. But no, call me out. Whatever. I don't give a fuck.
Fucking hell. I swear, every fangame thread is ruined by driveby shitposting about cease and desists. It's utterly depressing to see hard work being dismissed by people who seemingly just want to see it fail. I made a post in the initial AM2R thread that showed evidence that pretty much way over half of the posts in a multiple page thread purely consisted of LOL C&D INCOMING. It's absolutely infuriating.
It's like the emulation threads here on neogaf - try and find one that doesn't devolve into driveby shitposts about piracy and misconceptions about emulation being illegal.
Fuck it, who gives a fuck. Next time a fangame thread comes up, I'll simply participate somewhere else.
Movalpolos
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Easy, easy, was just a joke >.<
openrob
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I think people will say "what product?"
pretty much. It's like a cycle
Then people will ask for examples of fan games not taken down, etc.
And when it gets answered they're nowhere to be seen.
Nobody wants to see it fail. I downloaded the game myself as soon as it was up.
But if you release a free version of a game Nintendo is currently selling, you are fooling yourself if you don't think you're going to hear from them.
But it isn't. It's not Metroid 2. If they released a 1:1 port such as the recent PC version of SMB you would have a point!
Great!! We cannot even celebrate the Metroid anniversary on our own. Aparently Nintendo wants us to buy a crappy and horrible game, instead of enjoying an awesome free fan remake.
Too late Nintendo, this won't make any of us stop playing the game, and if we cannot download it directly, we will find some other ways to get it somehow around the internet.
Screw you Ninty.
Too late Nintendo, this won't make any of us stop playing the game, and if we cannot download it directly, we will find some other ways to get it somehow around the internet.
Screw you Ninty.
Maybe you're right. We'll see how it all shakes out. Hopefully Nintendo decides to leave it alone, but I doubt it.
I believe this is the case. This project was also known for quite a while before it's release, they likely knew about it, still let it come out then C&Ded it to protect thier rights.
Of course even though they could have killed this before it saw the light of day or sued the creator for damages and chose not to, people are still going to act like they are the bad guys. Go figure.
I see you're point though.
As opposed to just a more "original" fan game. Guess we'll see.
Remove all references to Metroid 2 and rename it "an unofficial Samus tale"
Problem solved.
Valkyri von Thanatos
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Disappointed in Nintendo and/or their legal team if they continue on with this and take down the AM2R website. Just so needless, and the perfect gut punch to Metroid fans that were celebrating the series' birthday with the release of this wonderful remake.
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