ambar_hitman
Member
SSE 4.1 is THE ISSUE CONFIRMED.
I was able to launch the game using SSE 4.1 Emulator.
I was able to launch the game using SSE 4.1 Emulator.
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No Man's Sky PC Version doesn't work on older CPUs
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I'll have to try this as I have a Phenom II
ambar_hitman
Member
Don't bother, performance is awful.
Instructions here if you still want to try: https://m.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/2c65vb/found_a_solution_for_the_ovrservice_x64exe_has/
No it doesn't. I have a Phenom II and I've had an issue with MGS 5 and probably this game (still downloading) and that's it.
And I play most of the new games that come out. This is very uncommon.
ambar_hitman
Member
What a bizarre post. I am able to max out almost any game out there on my OLD CPU.
5.74% of total Steam users support SSSE3 but not SSE4.1
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey (check "other settings" at the bottom)
85.75% of Steam users support SSE4.1. 91.49% support SSSE3 (not good enough for No Man's Sky). Assuming all CPUs that support SSE4.1 support SSSE3 (I don't know enough about CPUs to say), subtracting one from the other leaves 5.74% of Steam users left in the cold with No Man's Sky. 99.96% of Steam CPUs support SSE3. (Different from SSSE3.)
My AMD Phenom II 965 is a beast of a CPU that has never had problems on any PC game. It's quad core with each core @ 3.4 GHz. I'm fine with progress but don't call it a weak CPU. There are very few console ports that would cause it any problems, to my knowledge. I bought it new in 2013. I could also understand if NMS actually *was* a CPU-heavy game, because of how it generates planets from math. If my Phenom wouldn't acceptably run NMS no matter what, I'll take the L.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey (check "other settings" at the bottom)
85.75% of Steam users support SSE4.1. 91.49% support SSSE3 (not good enough for No Man's Sky). Assuming all CPUs that support SSE4.1 support SSSE3 (I don't know enough about CPUs to say), subtracting one from the other leaves 5.74% of Steam users left in the cold with No Man's Sky. 99.96% of Steam CPUs support SSE3. (Different from SSSE3.)
My AMD Phenom II 965 is a beast of a CPU that has never had problems on any PC game. It's quad core with each core @ 3.4 GHz. I'm fine with progress but don't call it a weak CPU. There are very few console ports that would cause it any problems, to my knowledge. I bought it new in 2013. I could also understand if NMS actually *was* a CPU-heavy game, because of how it generates planets from math. If my Phenom wouldn't acceptably run NMS no matter what, I'll take the L.
So it's the VR GameManager that fixes it? I couldn't tell from that thread
So MGS5 will work on any old processor? I'll bust out my old Pentium 3.
ambar_hitman
Member
No. Follow the striked part. Extract the downloaded file in your game Binary folder.
cleveridea
Member
I have i7 4790K with 32 GB RAM and original Titan X and the game locks the PC up every time I try to run it (have to hold down the power button and restart PC)
Zombie James
Banned
Ahh, the Phenom. AMD really dropped the ball after the Athlon 64.
KillerMan91
Member
Phenom IIs were solid CPUs when they released (especially considering how much cheaper they were compared to Intel processors). I am still running Phenom II X6 1050T and generally can run most of games pretty well (6 years old CPU). If I remember right first gen Phenoms were shit though.
More like Intel hauling ass to smash the Athlon 64 before their cozy dominance was uprooted
I don't think you understand the issue here. Your old Pentium 3 isn't powerful enough to run the applications, these Phenom 2 chips are FASTER than i3's in a lot of cases the only problem is compatibility with this SSE instruction.
This was easily fixed within a day in MGS 5 and went from "nah you can't play this" to running a perfect 60 for me.
It's not that the chips aren't capable but that the developer didn't account for chips that didn't ship with a specific instruction set compatibility. It's fixable but the question is will they fix it.
MissCauthon
Member
I have a Phenom II 550 with a GTX 560Ti 12g ram
And ive been able to play any game fine. I play Overwatch at 1080p with 48-60 fps most of the time never lower. Should i wait and see if they fix the issue or just refund and not bother. NMS crashes when loading the game. I see the Hello Games logo for a second then crash.
And ive been able to play any game fine. I play Overwatch at 1080p with 48-60 fps most of the time never lower. Should i wait and see if they fix the issue or just refund and not bother. NMS crashes when loading the game. I see the Hello Games logo for a second then crash.
Are you intentionally being this obtuse?
ambar_hitman
Member
I am not sure if a "Small team of 10 people" will be able to fix this.
Yeah, most game run at 60 fps. GTA V, W3, Doom etc etc.
This is almost certainly an oversight and not some technical barrier people should've seen coming.
As has been mentioned, MGSV ran into this problem and it was patched to be fixed, but EDF4.1, which just released less than a month ago, had the exact same issue and was promptly patched post-launch as well.
Developers are probably just forgetting to test Phenom CPUs, which is understandable if not a little funny.
As has been mentioned, MGSV ran into this problem and it was patched to be fixed, but EDF4.1, which just released less than a month ago, had the exact same issue and was promptly patched post-launch as well.
Developers are probably just forgetting to test Phenom CPUs, which is understandable if not a little funny.
I understand the issue perfectly thanks.
There's a variety of reasons why you might have bigger priorities than supporting certain CPUs, especially for a smaller team. Given the reports of other issues with the PC version, it sounds like they were pretty rushed to get it ready, and limiting the range of hardware they tested on will have been necessary.
Are the system requirements for No Man's Sky inaccurate?
My initial point was simply that how the threat title was worded was bizarrely vague, since it literally apples to every single game.
Oh I see. You just wanted to be pedantic gotcha.
Netherscourge
Banned
Hmm,the FIRST CPU generations to use SSE 4.1 are:
Intel: Penryn (Core 2 Solo/Duo/Quad and above) - [NOT Core 1s]
AMD: Barcelona (Phenom K10s and above)
So, if you got below those specs, no SSE 4 for you!
Intel: Penryn (Core 2 Solo/Duo/Quad and above) - [NOT Core 1s]
AMD: Barcelona (Phenom K10s and above)
So, if you got below those specs, no SSE 4 for you!
Do you think this is true?
Ah, nevermind. You're not being serious about this.
ambar_hitman
Member
Yes. When any developer lists any Minimum requirements for a game, it means they are talking about performance. If someone says i3 is minimum, any sane person will think it means i3 CPU performance in gaming, not some random technical instructions support.
AMD Phenom II CPUs blow i3 away in many games, so they should have explicitly mentioned SSE 4.1 support is must.
LelouchZero
Member
The quad core Nehalem CPUs are quite competent to this day, they can run any game released to date and exceed the performance of the current generation consoles, they also support the SSE 4.1 instruction set.
Like what was said in the OP, the Phenom II CPUs do not support the SSE 4.1 instruction set, and these CPUs are equally as competent as the Nehalem processors.
Other games such as Metal Gear Solid V and Earth Defence Force 4.1 have had similar issues where the game refuses to run on these processors, but this issue was quickly rectified with a patch for both games.
ambar_hitman
Member
Doesn't matter. These CPUs can play latest games without any issues.
Minimum requirements should have explicitly stated that SSE 4.1 is MUST.
Even GPU requirements are wrong. They specified GTX 480, which is Open GL 4.2 card.
But now they are saying Open GL 4.5 is minimum.
No that's more like running Crysis on a P3. Which it did, though at very low settings.
EdibleExplosives
Member
CPUs have barely improved (in comparison to GPUs), an 8 year old CPU can still be good enough. Mine is almost 8 years old and I haven't found a game I can't run well.
Crimsonsky
Member
System specs are the first thing people request and then never read. If your processor doesn't support 4.1 then stick to consoles.
It's not an issue - they tweeted that people should make sure their CPU is supported. Pre-SSE 4.1 CPUs are not supported on their minimum requirements.
jakonovski
Member
This is dumb, who checks Twitter for esoteric processor requirements (I mean how would you even know, do you compare electron microscope images or what). Thank god for Steam refund.
The system requirements are on the front page of the Steam page. Intel i3 and above include SSE 4.1.
ethomaz
Banned
I check every time the minimum requirement before buy a PC game... it was like that since ever.
Every game in Steam page has it before you buy.
If my CPU/GPU or others hardware are not supported... it is a no buy.
ambar_hitman
Member
Where does it explicitly say that??? It just says i3. How hard it was to specify SSE 4.1 lacking CPUs not supported?
ScientificPizza
Banned
Yeah, this is just people expecting something that was never promised. Look at the minimum specs for this game. Who cares what other games work for you, these are the minimum specs for this game.
EdibleExplosives
Member
The min requirements do not say that. As has been stated already in the thread, there are better CPUs than the minimum listed that won't be able to run the game.
jakonovski
Member
The point is, the term "Intel i3" in no way communicates SSE 4.1 required. I bet you'd never even heard of that instruction set until this thread.
So I guess only the GTX 480 and Radeon 7870 are supported also. Sorry, 1080 owners, you are shit out of luck!
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Or wait...could it be?...does that mean "or above"? And my Phenom 2 is higher powered than i3's. Huh.
ambar_hitman
Member
Minimum specs mention i3. So does that mean an i7 released before i3 won't run this game? No, right? They should have explicitly mentioned SSE 4.1 is required.
ethomaz
Banned
The "better" CPU didn't have SSE4.1 so it can't run the game.
Every i3, i5 or i7 supports SSE4.1.
ambar_hitman
Member
That's what is written in OP, your point?
ethomaz
Banned
The "better" CPU can't run the game.
No matter if you or others say it is better or not... it didn't fit the requirements lol
It is a non-issue lol
EdibleExplosives
Member
That's exactly what I said? That isn't listed in the minimum requirements.