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November 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 8th
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Bioshocker
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[3DS] 400K
[PS4] 1200K
[WIU] 235K
[XB1] 1250K
[PS4] 1200K
[WIU] 235K
[XB1] 1250K
Emulated Hype
Member
I'd imagine that at this point if Sony's numbers are positive then they may just be waiting until PSX to brag since it's pretty close. It'll be interesting if things were down for either camp this year given the deals though, $300 is the sweet spot for a hefty swath of people.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Oh, I think if there was a clear winner we'd seen some proper PR talk.
But. Numbers are so close that announcing oneself the winner is a very dangerous game. Even too dangerous for Yusuf Mehdi, and that says a lot.
For XB1 being down would at least make some sense. The deals this time out them at price parity outside of a few select retailers. That's a huge difference from a $70 price advantage with extensive bundle deals. I'td be fantastic for them if they weren't down this year as their sales last year were pretty much incredible especially given their performance throughout the rest of the year.
That's certainly possible as well. But at the very least you would think we'd get some braggadocios software sales figures or something.
slavesnyder
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+1 internets to you
Cheers for the chuckle.
That actually hadn't occurred to me for whatever reason but I could certainly see that as a possibility as well.
Why would Sony brag about Black Friday sales at PSX?
Seems a little past it to brag about one day of sales at a fan event.
freefornow
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[PS4]: 1050K
[XB1]: 1075K
[3DS]: 395K
[Wii U]: 290K
[XB1]: 1075K
[3DS]: 395K
[Wii U]: 290K
I can see how they might mention something in passing. But you're right it wouldn't be something they would dwell on.
theprodigy
Member
[PS4] 1250k
[XB1] 1100k
[3DS] 400k
[WIU] 275k
will probably change this later
[XB1] 1100k
[3DS] 400k
[WIU] 275k
will probably change this later
Either that, or surprise pre-NY announcement that they have reached 35M shipment/soldthrough sales.
Chobel
Member
Dude, why? This is not the correct format, and it's not like it's your first NPD prediction.
Bear Force One
Banned
Methinks the bragging at PSX is going to alter a LOT of people's predictions! ROFL
Let's see a possible scenario...
XB1 this November: 900,000 ( i personally predict 1.02m )
Wii U this november: 400,000 ( i personally predict 325k)
Now, last year, Wii U got a 140% boost November to December, ( 242,000 -----> 580,000 ), and XB1 only 5% boost ( 1,230,000 -------> 1,290,000 ).
IF we will see those sales in November, and we will see the same boost of last year, then the December result will become:
Wii U: 400,000 + 140% = 960,000
XB1: 900,000 + 5% = 945,000
Ok, not gonna happen, but lmao if will.
Do you work at Ars Technica?
slavesnyder
Member
If Sony won Black Friday, they will mention it nonchalant with a few words. Big cheers in the audience and it's gone again.
Bitch Pudding
Member
I asume Sony has other (bigger) targets and milestones than "just" winning a very important, yet single weekend of a whole year.
slavesnyder
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That's why I said it will be mentioned only briefly. Nevertheless it's still black friday, the most important day of the year sales-wise - and it just happened.
Of course they have other targets, but I just cannot imagine they let this chance for a little punch pass. In the end, as we still don't know who actually won, it might simply not happen because there was no win for Sony.
"November 2015 was the biggest month in PS4 history - selling more than 2,2 million consoles world wide".
freefornow
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What?
slavesnyder
Member
It was an example how they could announce November Sales at PSX. No hard fact.
I was "whutting" the 2.2 million in November.
I mean... That's super low.
If PS4 Will sell only 1 million in Nov NPD, which is almost a given in My opinion, this mean the US sales are over 45%.
We shoul Know that's impossible.
PS4 sales should be ~3 million or more in November most likely.
slavesnyder
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I give this pun a 9/10
Also: Undertale. Incredible. Would love to know the production cost...
Sony and MS are camping in front of the developer's home I guess.
Probably 3 Million, yes. Someone had a list of the US sell through share versus world wide in the last thread. It was going down from 40 something percent to 32 or 33% in the last two Years IIRC.
That's still pretty low if US is ~30% of sales. I'd imagine it'll be somewhere north of 4 million.
He was me lol.
Don't forget November is a bigger month in the US than in the other countries thanks Black Friday.
So, the US sales this time should be bigger.
Not 45-50%, but more than the actually 32-33%.
I say some Like in the range 3-3.5 million.
4 million could be literally insane.
Shambalakan
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[3DS] 500K
[PS4] 1250K
[WIU] 450K
[XB1] 1100K
[PS4] 1250K
[WIU] 450K
[XB1] 1100K
slavesnyder
Member
Edited because I was too stupid to read properly.
Thanks, Bitch Pudding.
Thanks, Bitch Pudding.
Bitch Pudding
Member
He said "worldwide".
2,2 Million in the US in one month, that's Wii level crazyness.
2,2 Million in the US in one month, that's Wii level crazyness.
He was me lol.
Don't forget November is a bigger month in the US than in the other countries thanks Black Friday.
So, the US sales this time should be bigger.
Not 45-50%, but more than the actually 32-33%.
I say some Like in the range 3-3.5 million.
4 million could be literally insane.
I thought Black Friday and holiday shopping were getting bigger in the EU and UK. But I could see that. I think 35-40% sounds about right in which case it would be somewhere between 3.5-3.9 million by my estimations. So yea 4 million was perhaps a bit too optimistic.
slavesnyder
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small44
Member
I don't understand,Microsoft didn't say they win too so the probability that ps4 win or xbone win is the same.
Wow, that is pretty close in the UK. Since we established that UK is basically mini US, I'm guessing the PS4 outsold the XB1 in the US by a slight margin as well.
This was already mentioned by other posters, but 2.2 million world wide in November would be horrible for the PS4. The least I think the PS4 sold in November is 3.2 million.
For some context last year's black Friday weekly sales for the UK were 240k for both consoles. So this is a 14% increase from last year. US sales for both consoles were ~2.1 million for November NPD last year.
It's important to note that the UK measurement is specifically for the week of Black Friday whereas as the NPD figure is for the entire month of November so it's not likely to be directly comparable but it does give us a rough point of comparison on what sort of results to expect for Black Friday.
For Black Friday this might be the case but for the month in total not just the week of BF the difference is likely to be larger in favor of Sony thanks to the release of two highly anticipated/preordered bundles.
Seldomly Jambon
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Activated in time for November NPD. Aww yisss.
Long time NDP lurker, first time poster.
Amateurish poke(s) in the dark:
[PS4] 1476K
[XB1] 1112K
[WIU] 447K
Long time NDP lurker, first time poster.
Amateurish poke(s) in the dark:
[PS4] 1476K
[XB1] 1112K
[WIU] 447K
Tivor Tontomo
Member
Well PS4 won last year in UK but Xbox One still won by a large margin, so I wouldn't use that as some kind of link. Also, if I hear correctly they were closer this year than last. I think the fact Xbox One was close when the majority of sales are non-preorders for that time in NOV may give it a higher chance.
One thing though for December, it seems the PS4 will stay at $299 for a bit and no news for Xbox, at the same time, seems that Xbox One is having deals all week at local retailers that make it that or less on paper so I guess we will see for December
One thing though for December, it seems the PS4 will stay at $299 for a bit and no news for Xbox, at the same time, seems that Xbox One is having deals all week at local retailers that make it that or less on paper so I guess we will see for December
Nightengale
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Tivor Tontomo
Member
Uh did you forget last year when the PS4 steamrolled the Xbox One in UK but the XBox One steamrolled the PS4 in America?
Nightengale
Member
Except it wasn't a steamroll.
Tivor Tontomo
Member
Uh no, they combined the U.S. and UK numbers and said "Xbox One outsold the PS4 in the U.S. and UK" individually I thought it was established the PS4 won.
Tivor Tontomo
Member
400k gap is a steamroll.