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Why does like every other country give games sales data down to a single unit but we just get a useless top ten list?
Why does like every other country give games sales data down to a single unit but we just get a useless top ten list?
If we're only looking at those two, it's not even close to turning in favor of last gen. Since Microsoft launched a year earlier last time, but they came out in the same month this time, there's two ways we could compare:
1. Launch-aligned, so Nov 2005-Jan 2009 for 360, and Nov 2006-Jan 2010 for PS3
2. First three years with both on market, Nov 2006-Jan 2010 for both
But why bother choosing? Let's add option 3, cumulative sales of both machines from Nov 2005-Jan 2010: the first four years of 360 and the first three years of PS3. That total is 30.4m. By contrast, the combined sales for the Nov 2013-Jan 2017 of Xbox One/PS4 are 33.8m. So even with adding an extra year of sales to last gen, current gen still has a lead of ~3.4m units.
That gap will shrink in the next year, but not disappear. Last gen sold 11.1m units in that period, and I'd project current gen to hit ~9.8m. In 2011/2018, the numbers should be something like 11.8m/9.1m. So last gen takes over in January 2019...except all this is option 3, including that extra year of 360. Remove that, and you get option 2: last gen's HD twins don't pass this gen's until the end of 2019. Make the comparison launch-aligned as in option 1, and it'd be near the end of 2020 before last gen passes this.
Your guess is years too early. Whether almost two, three, or four years too early depends how you compare.
Total hardware sales will go down, yes. But that's mostly not due to Sony and Microsoft, but Nintendo. (And even that would be mitigated if you count WiiU and Switch as both being this generation.)
"All of our new IP's are successful"
Monkey's Paw
"The sequels shall falter."
So, Ghost Recon, Zelda and Horizon will be top 3 next month and they'll probably be in that order in terms of placement, yeah?
Every new console owner I imagine.Who the hell is still buying GTA V.
So, Ghost Recon, Zelda and Horizon will be top 3 next month and they'll probably be in that order in terms of placement, yeah?
Who the hell is still buying GTA V.
Who the hell is still buying GTA V.
Ubisoft is the Devil.Why are some people so upset about For Honor leading in sales?
Ubisoft.Why are some people so upset about For Honor leading in sales?
Opinions, how do they work?
Just because For Honor and Wildlands aren't your cup of tea doesn't mean they're not good. They are good, and they appeal to a wider user base.
Do you have any idea how good it is that a niche game (samurai dark souls, come on) charted top 10?
Perspective.
Edit: also, a critically acclaimed female-led robot dinosaur game is likely to be #1 or 2 next month.
Forgot about Mass Effect.Mass Effect will likely be up there off brand recognition alone. I doubt it will have much in the way of legs though if the first 10 hours is anything to go by.
Makes sense.I see Zelda below Horizon and Ghost Recon.
Ghost Recon first, Horizon second because they have a bigger install base
Forgot about Mass Effect.
Mass Effect > Ghost > Horizon > Zelda?
Makes sense.
I'm guessing..
Ghost Recon
Mass Effect
Horizon
Zelda
Do you understand what Zelda would have to sell to beat out those last two even it beating horizon isn't a sure thingim guessing
Zelda> Horizon> Ghost R> Mass Effect
i just have a feeling
Do you understand what Zelda would have to sell to beat out those last two even it beating horizon isn't a sure thing
It is always funny to see the Ubisoft hate, as if they make shit games. The games they produce are better than most of the stuff put out there but for some reason some here on GAF don't like that.Ubisoft.
Something something insert game here "deserves" more
Salt
A large chunk of GAF has a hate-boner for Ubisoft.Why are some people so upset about For Honor leading in sales?
Whos buying GTAV ? WTF?
That is huge!Well, I've been saying FH opened huge and here we are. That digital share like 56% too, damn
Well, I've been saying FH opened huge and here we are. That digital share like 56% too, damn
Well, I've been saying FH opened huge and here we are. That digital share like 56% too, damn
Zelda is on the WiiU as welll dont forget..
i just get this feeling Zelda is gonna sell all month long
Well, I've been saying FH opened huge and here we are. That digital share like 56% too, damn
GTA V still as high as ever, we're not getting another GTA for a very long time are we ?
Nah! I'm willing to bet it's related to it being an online only game. Plenty of people were gushing over FH until the news hit.A large chunk of GAF has a hate-boner for Ubisoft.
It is actually kind of great NPD was able to get digital data. Without that we would be thinking digital would still be ~30% but now For Honor is majority digital?
Retail only is becoming even less of an indicator of success. Wonder it is like worldwide.
Well, I've been saying FH opened huge and here we are. That digital share like 56% too, damn
Ubisoft has been the one doing overly sell on open worlds or pushing games that are collecting heavy. It has become more common for them over the years (even steep....) and it has been a more than obvious change in sony's development as well IMO even though some will disagree with me for sure but I do feel like any time I watch new AAA game trailers it seems to be all about open world at least half the time. (views, likes etc)
So, I am hoping for games like Nioh, Re7 to do even better so more games like that come out instead of getting pushed to the side or completely not made at all.
I feel the mindset that an open world has is more strong than the actual product being good/better than what it actually is. I feel it's more marketing and impressionism than anything at this point. That is my main concern and where I feel it isn't just being salty. I feel a lot of those titles are a bit objectively bad and not just subjectively.
I can see that, but I'm not sure how I would say it isn't either
I'm not sure how I could want or see all games selling well though as it isn't possible. Not sure what logical idea I could go with actually. Cause in one way, I would want all employees to keep their work and what they like to do unless there were reasons they didnt like what they were doing blah blah blah...
So, it isn't my intention to be against the people's work and jobs at least. I do feel a lot of them are off course on what they are making but that is a different idea.
It indeed becoming increasingly difficult to really get an idea how games are performing from the few reported numbers we get. Digital share just keeps increasing and I suspect on these online Games as a Service titles especially. People want quick and easy access to them.
Retail really doesn't tell the full story anymore
Yea 56% is just absolutely nuts. Makes you wonder what sort of share games like Destiny 2 are going to have. Surely its gonna be high especially with that userbase already conditioned to buying digital content via expansions.
It is always funny to see the Ubisoft hate, as if they make shit games. The games they produce are better than most of the stuff put out there but for some reason some here on GAF don't like that.
Yeah good point. I almost wonder if at retail Destiny 2 opens lower than Destiny 1. But actual launch will be much bigger. That game will likely skew VERY heavily digital. It will also have PC for the first time and that's going to be essentially 95+% digital sales
Why are some people so upset about For Honor leading in sales?
Bundled software is always separate.Oh yea I forgot it was supposed to come to PC too. Yea I can see that having a very heavy digital skew for sure. That said I could see bundles selling really well as well seeing as this one is not available on PS3/360. DO we know if bundled games are counted towards the NPD revenue ranking or if it is separate? I would assume it is separate.