your memory must be leaking.
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NXGamer first look at XboxOne version of Just Cause 3 (hint: it's baaaaaad)
- Thread starter AgentOtaku
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your memory must be leaking.
fluffydelusions
Member
PC version seems fine. 1080p/60 gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQhelDg754
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQhelDg754
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Yup. This is a PC game folks. Looks great.
If the issue is really a memory leak, then PC might have the same problem as well, but it will take a lot longer to manifest as PC users often have a lot of excess RAM. And CPUs are generally much better in PCs and the framerate drops seem CPU-bound so yeah.
Still shameful to put out a game in this state.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Yikes. This is indefensible. I have an opportunity to try it out but its gonna be hard to justify this with serious performance issues. The way I play is just blowing shit up. Not good.
There are videos in the Just Cause 3 Impressions thread of similarly bad PS4 performance during hectic moments.
It does have the same issues, they've been widely reported.
Peterthumpa
Member
Looking really solid. Seems like PC is the way to go this time.
iamaustrian
Member
is that memory leak thing the same shit that happened in ps3 skyrim after a while?
if so can you expect that it gets worse the more hours you play?
not that loading times as long as 15min(thats a record,right?) aren't already worse enough.
wtf??
if so can you expect that it gets worse the more hours you play?
not that loading times as long as 15min(thats a record,right?) aren't already worse enough.
wtf??
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Yup the ps4 version is pretty much just as wrecked in hectic scenes. These console cpu's just can't cope with larger open world type games, with physics etc
Caayn
Member
I find his claims of a memory leak to be a bold statement. Haven't watched the video, but I'd love to know a method to reliable determine if something is a memory leak without consulting debug tools. For all we know it could be a thread stuck in an infinite loop eating up all the resources, or a deadlock for example.
A memory leak is a mistake in the garbage collector, objects are created in memory but are never deleted from memory when they're no longer neccesary.
That's not what a memory leak is. That was simply thanks to the save file growing to large for it to fit nicely into the systems memory.
A memory leak is a mistake in the garbage collector, objects are created in memory but are never deleted from memory when they're no longer neccesary.
Lanrutcon
Member
Älg;187265364 said:
He reviewed the source code, and through systematic testing and debugging he identified instances where objects weren't being released properly.
...or the game's performance gets progressively more fucked up the longer you play in a single session.
Pick one.
And like NX said the problem is when you reload a save after a long game session. I don't think the problem is only the game save dimension.
Älg;187265364 said:
It is a pure supposition. It should also be noted that he hasn't actually stated that things like performance were degrading over time, or that it was consistently crashing after long sessions, just that it crashes sometimes.
That is not to say that a lack of these symptoms means that the game isn't leaking memory, just that the there isn't strong enough evidence to say conclusively.
If the game manages to run "properly" after loading the save regardless of how long it takes then it isn't an indication of a memory leak. If that were the case that memory would be lost until the game was reset.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
That sounds about right, either way.
This game doesn't seem all that optimized.
And for all the PC gloating going on in these threads, the requirements to run this game as advertised are pretty fucking high.
The vast majority of people getting roped in are on consoles, so it's on their heads to level out the performance with graphical fidelity .
Subpar Scrub
Banned
Shame, I'll buy it if I hear that it gets fixed, but I'm not supporting poorly optimised games anymore.
This seems like the opposite of what most games are doing, I.E. having all the demos on one of the console versions, then the PC version turns out to be naff. Well, I'm happy the PC version isn't naff, but it sucks they didn't take the time to ensure a smooth framerate on the other versions.
UnrealEck
Member
The only games I can really think of where that's the case are Batman AK and Mortal Kombat.
Well...some other AAA games. Maybe. Bah.
Wow I didn't knew it. I was holding to buy Mad Max since I thought it was made by B team.
Älg;187265364 said:
He took this information from his usual source: his ass. Long loading times are in no sense evidence for memory leaks. He probably doesn't really know what a memory leak is. Because the problem with memory leaks is not that the program needs time to clear memory, it's that it's not clearing some unused memory at all.
Leaks are not mistakes in a garbage collector. Garbage collectors are actually more reliable at reducing memory leaks. You can still cause memory leaks in garbage-collected languages by unnecessarily retaining references to objects that are not used by the application anymore. But unreferenced objects will be destroyed reliably. The most common cause of memory leaks are bugs in manual memory management. Aside, I highly doubt that garbage-collected languages are even widely used in the core of game engines. Maybe in hosted scripting languages that run on top, but it won't be a common thing in the core of an engine. At most, you'll find something like automatic reference counting, but not garbage collectors that analyze the full object graph.
I think he opened the command prompt and typed in "mi".. on his Xbox One.. on his Xbox One.
Caayn
Member
Apologies for my wrong use of terminology. I didn't really want to jump into specifics. I should've used memory management instead of garbage collector.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
Oooh. Hopefully it's not too demanding on PC.
It looks very good so it will be, although console settings at 60fps should not be too taxing.
Anyone know what hardware this guy has? He only lists the most unimportant stuff on his channel.
Backfoggen
Banned
Watch the video. Whenever shit goes down its slow mo time.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Wow
Are you kidding?
The average FPS is not the same as the minimum FPS. We are not talking about just 1-3 dropped frames per second.
TheSlySoul
Member
Why is this game so bad? Just Cause 3.
MMaRsu
Banned
Lol.... Drops to below 20 CONSTANTLY is fine?
Probably fine. Those processors are so far beyond what the consoles are running.
I'll find out soon enough I guess. I'm assuming my 3570 will crush it OC'ed or not.
Modest Mauser
Member
I hope the PC version runs well without requiring obscenely high-end hardware. Just Cause 2 looked so good on PC and ran so well, but I don't know how the console version was.
Short dips when like a trillion physic intensive calculations are going on. This is unpatchable and unavoidable on these consoles.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Black Mantis
Member
I was contemplating holding off on buying it, due to negative feedback of its car/gunplay controls, this news has made me so glad I held my resolve last night.
Norwegian_Imposter
Member
very hyperbolic. Can you post evidence? it should be pretty repeatable for a share button upload.