King Cobra
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Of course this took place in NYC and they will get nothing more than paid vacation. When will people start doing something about this.
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NYPD kill a man after he breaks up a fight between others.
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Ya no wonder he's upset when surrounded by a group of those thugs.
BlazingDarkness
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Oh look, American police have committed another murder.
It's their thing.
It's their thing.
Terra Firma
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I wouldn't say it's on the "upslope" because the public is more exposed to it due to camera phones. I'm certain that worse than this has happened before, covered up, with not even a slap on the wrist, simply because there was no evidence.
theignoramus
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what a fucking senseless death. And surprise, surprise, the victim is black.
I'm just wondering, is there any public outcry in the States over this? Granted you have a way larger population so more incidents are expected, but even one incident caught on tape like this over here would fill the airwaves for weeks. The police would have to punish whoever did it just based on public pressure.
Opus Angelorum
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King Cobra
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The mentality is that as long as this is happening in the poorer parts of the country they are just cleaning up the streets.
I'me sure that what ever country you is a virtual paradise. America is LITERALLY the worst country in the world right?
Well, with the amount of officers in this video I would say that was more than just "some." Obviously not all of them are bad, but enough shit goes on that those kind of broad statements are at least mildly acceptable.
America's largest gang, folks
It's unfortunate, I do know some good cops who do their best for society.
This is a very ignorant comment.
My guess would be cops still riding the 9/11 hero fame. Media doesn't want to look unpatriotic by siding against them.
NoctisVsStar
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I'm from NYC and that's why I don't try to play hero if I see someone fighting I mind my own business sadly due to things of this nature.
RumblingRosco
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According to Wikipedia, yes, that's true.
The problem is that justice should be served even to police members.
Nobody should be above the law.
King Cobra
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There have been a few instances where police were killed for not acting fast enough. Just try to remember that most of these guys are putting themselves in harms way 7 days a week. It can mess with your nerves.
water_wendi
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Because they can get away with it. The citizenry cant do anything about it and the "good" police look the other way.
Grew up having to deal with these assholes. Me and my friends were constantly harassed by them and often they wouldn't hesitate to hurl slurs and other shit our way. Most of these shit bags are from Long Island or fucking Howard Beach, that came to our neighborhoods to fuck with us.
But we got off pretty lucky compared to cases like this, Sean Bell the list goes on....
But we got off pretty lucky compared to cases like this, Sean Bell the list goes on....
If they can't handle the stress of talking to an overweight asthmatic without choking him to death, they probably have the wrong job.
Abstruse Moose
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The police need to be policed.
Get the fuck out of here with that lame ass excuse.
I don't care that most cops are good people, I care that while it's a small number overall, it's a growing trend and absolutely nothing is being done about it. We are usually told that "after an internal investigation was conducted, no wrongdoing by the police officer(s) in question was found".
And this shit isn't seen in a single area, it's all over the nation.
This thread prompted me to look up what happened in that movie theatre killing in my home state of Oklahoma:
http://www.normantranscript.com/pre...will-not-file-charges-in-Warren-Theatre-death
No charges filed. Circumstances were very similar to the one in the OP.
Sad and outrageous.
http://www.normantranscript.com/pre...will-not-file-charges-in-Warren-Theatre-death
No charges filed. Circumstances were very similar to the one in the OP.
Sad and outrageous.
Masquerader
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Poor fucking guy. At best, this was manslaughter with intent to cause harm. I mean, for God's sake, what the hell was he actually doing...?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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wants to fuck an Asian grill.
RIP
Cops should be terminated from their jobs. At least one.
Ball is in NYC hands. Country is huge. Citizens in North Dakota cant always care what happens on another part of the planet in Southern Florida.
Cops should be terminated from their jobs. At least one.
Ball is in NYC hands. Country is huge. Citizens in North Dakota cant always care what happens on another part of the planet in Southern Florida.
Sho_Nuff82
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On the other hand, I'd argue this is perfectly indicative of the behavior of the NYPD. Why is it that I could guess the race of the victim before I even clicked on the video? It's because we have mountains of evidence showing who they prey upon in these neighborhoods, and who is subject to unjust search & seizure, and who is brutalized without just cause. How can anyone argue that the NYPD is mostly good cops with the numbers we have?
http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data
That's 12 years of cold, hard data screaming "hey, this is kind of weird, huh?"
If these officers aren't all fired immediately for killing an innocent man, isn't that an indictment of their entire department?
They aren't trained to nonviolently diffuse such situations.
None as long as it's mostly minorities facing the brunt of police brutality and murders.
SocksAndShoes
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It's not an excuse, it's a statistical probability.
I agree that these asshole cops need to be thrown in jail/fired. My point is that implying that most police officers behave this way is hyperbole.
adamsappel
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You won't even find police officers on GAF, where they are completely anonymous, saying anything against fellow cops, even in these situations. The "good" cops who work with the bad cops are complicit in their crimes just by their silence.
Those were the days eh?
Probably when an extremely wealthy man or politician is a victim.
SocksAndShoes
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I don't think the problem is training, I think the problem is they're neanderthals.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
If the "good" cops are either unable or unwilling to pursue justice when it comes to their fellows then there are no good cops.
Chokehold? Gosh, that sounds familiar....
To clarify: Lyons was stopped by officers and placed in a chokehold that left him unconscious, spitting up blood, having urinated and defecated on himself, and with permanent damage to his larynx; he sued to stop the chokehold practice that had already killed sixteen men in L.A, including twelve black men.. The Court ruled that he would have to prove that he was planning on having an encounter with the police (committing a crime), that the police - all of them - would always use the chokehold, and that the City ordered the police to do this. The Court ruled that he did not have standing because of his inability to prove these things.
In other words, good luck getting the NYPD to stop doing this.
To clarify: Lyons was stopped by officers and placed in a chokehold that left him unconscious, spitting up blood, having urinated and defecated on himself, and with permanent damage to his larynx; he sued to stop the chokehold practice that had already killed sixteen men in L.A, including twelve black men.. The Court ruled that he would have to prove that he was planning on having an encounter with the police (committing a crime), that the police - all of them - would always use the chokehold, and that the City ordered the police to do this. The Court ruled that he did not have standing because of his inability to prove these things.
In other words, good luck getting the NYPD to stop doing this.
SocksAndShoes
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Ok I'm getting demolished over this so I'm just gonna back out of the thread. It just irks me when generalizations like that are made. That's all.
jamesinclair
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Im just shocked an angry mob didnt attack the cops for murder.
Because at this point, thats what its going to take top start changing policies. The chiefs and mayor arent going to do jack shit. They give the cops free reign to do what they want, when they want.
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