giancarlo123x
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Why did/still do care about Stella so much in the first place? We barely know shit about her.
Because she & Noctis seemed to have more of a relationship together (face to face, or at least talking via phones) beyond sending cards through a magic dog.Why did/still do care about Stella so much in the first place? We barely know shit about her.
Some people do not understand how relationships work or how to build on-screen romantic relationships without some dumb BS or have weird concepts of romantic.That phone image alone is baffling. Did Tabata deliberately decide to make them communicate via dog? Why? For what reason? Is it more 'romantic'?
Why they gotta twist the knife?
Noctis & his bandmates are the best & only good part of FFXV's storytelling. Try harder, edgelord.I was quite enjoying the artwork until Noctis' bandmates appeared.
The best part of the game?I was quite enjoying the artwork until Noctis' bandmates appeared.
That phone image alone is baffling. Did Tabata deliberately decide to make them communicate via dog? Why? For what reason? Is it more 'romantic'?
Why they gotta twist the knife?
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Y'know, there still would have been just as much issues with the narrative but I still don't get why they changed Stella and her design to Luna. Would have saved a whole lot of Versus angst, it's not like we really knew what she was like.
Yeah... this still doesn't make much sense to me. Even if she turned out too different the players still wouldn't have known, and that's what's most important with a project with this kind of history if you ask me. Same with stuff like the Regis design. Oh well.ImThe team members themselves couldn't change her because she was too different and they couldn't do it. I can understand them!
to be fair we know nothing about Stella. She could have been just like Lunafreya and from a pure design standpoint I dont think Stella or Lunafreya are that much different.
The Nomura game was a trilogy. They probably didn't do any significant planning for parts 2 and 3.
This is verrrrrry evident in how XV falls apart story-wise after Altissia.
Nice fan fic of Stella. That one didn't even exist if we go by this concept art. She couldn't summon weapons aside from the very original concept and even her design kept changing along with her outfits.Stella could summon weapons, just like Noctis. She was a fighting heroine, which you are likely to find in DQ games (Alena, Jessica) and Nojima games outside of FF. In Nojima's Glory of Heracles games, the heroines usually use offense magic but they never have heal spells (the male characters do, like DQ heroes). Stella is also a name Nojima used in a previous game and for his company, Stellavista.
This the type of shit I've been dying to see for ages, but now it doesn't even matter. It's just a reminder for me of what could've been. It makes me slightly bitter, with how terrible revised version ended up being for me.
Roberto Ferrari concepts from what I can gather by the art style.
A lot of the Final Fantasy main heroines have been primarily white magic users and have used a staff, or any other variants of a wand, as a weapon. As such, they tend to be physically weak and are used in gameplay (or in some cases in the narrative) simply to support the main male hero and his ambitions. A lot of these heroines tend to be very feminine in how they move, while physically more-abled female side-kicks tend to be butch, doting, or quiet (think Lightning, who is not a sidekick, Ashe, Freya). Peppy and feminine side-kicks tended to be a ditz as well (think Rikku, Selphie, and even Yuffie)
Stella stands out initially since while she uses magic (thanks to a near-death experience, similar to Noctis), her main weapon is a fleuret (sword, not a variant of a wand). Gameplay-wise, it would have been interesting to see how they represent fencing in-game (whether or not we get to control her, or simpy fight against her). Having a fencing weapon is also pretty loaded choice, as the sport was popularized by (male) aristocrats, so that MIGHT show Stella's aristocratic (and most likely, educated) background.
Despite that, the party scene shows that while she is diplomatic when it comes to addressing Noctis, she is still very feminine with her body language (which oddly, a lot of people take against her). So already, she betrays a lot of the peppy-but-ditzy or strong-but-butch archetypes Final Fantasy has for its female side-kicks. As a heroine, she also occupies a different narrative space as other FF heroines. She is always shown in white to contrast Noctis' black, and we know eventually that she and Noctis had to fight eventually. A heroine with a different and opposing goal with the hero would have been such an interesting and different concept to play around with (again, execution is another matter, but that is all moot at this point). IIRC, people initially thought she was one of the main villains in FFV13 when she was revealed during the closed mega theater trailers. People were shocked when Nomura revealed that she was supposed to be Versus' heroine.
So when people say that they are sad that the Stella vs Noctis scene was lost, they weren't sad simply because the scene cut was cool. It was so much more than that.
Again, that does not show that Stella is a strong character, but merely that she stands out and is conceptually different. I think that people who say that Stella is a strong character actually mean that she is just an intriguing concept of a character, and I thought it showed. People weren't just blindly believing Nomura when he said that "Stella would stand out," people already saw that. Compare this to Tabata, who initially said that Luna was a strong character and that we should believe him, when all we've seen (at that point) was Luna sitting down waiting for Noctis to come.
I'm not throwing Luna under the bus here. I think all Stella fans should be openminded to her character, but when subsequent appearances fail to impress (including a movie), it should be understood why Stella fans are upset. But with the game two months away, I can't wait to know more about Luna.
This post has gone on too long, lol. I might have veered offtopic, but I thought I just wanted to give my 2 cents on this whole Luna vs Stella thing.
....that quote you posted about Stella is a lot of reaching.By the way, for those who still don't understand the appeal of Stella, there's this post that pretty much sums it up :
By the way, for those who still don't understand the appeal of Stella, there's this post that pretty much sums it up :
Ardyn concept art and what seems to be a cutscene, it also shows the red blood moon which was nowhere to be found in the game.
Also, now related to the final product, the French voice cast just stated in an interview that they recorded a lot of scenes that were dropped when the script was rewritten last year.
https://youtu.be/zPcZ7UhCtao
Also, now related to the final product, the French voice cast just stated in an interview that they recorded a lot of scenes that were dropped when the script was rewritten last year.
https://youtu.be/zPcZ7UhCtao
I mean at the end of the day she isn't real and I honestly find it weird that after 10 years people haven't been able to let go of their over attachment to her.
Damn it's pretty rare for scenes for a Japanese game to be dropped even after the European voices have been recorded :/
Damn it's pretty rare for scenes for a Japanese game to be dropped even after the European voices have been recorded :/
Cause they are, even the phone scene is just replaced with a book.I'm confused. This looks mostly like scenes that are in 15...
Ardyn concept art and what seems to be a cutscene, it also shows the red blood moon which was nowhere to be found in the game.
Also, now related to the final product, the French voice cast just stated in an interview that they recorded a lot of scenes that were dropped when the script was rewritten last year.
https://youtu.be/zPcZ7UhCtao
Who. Knows. What. They. Were. Thinking.Why. The. Fuck. Would. You. Rewrite. The. Script. For. An. RPG. On. The. Year. Of. Its. Release.
Why. The. Fuck. Would. You. Rewrite. The. Script. For. An. RPG. On. The. Year. Of. Its. Release.
Did Kagari not specifically state that Aranea was created to just be a boss fight? I thought for sure she didUmbra looks so fucking cool
I wanted to see more Cor and Aranea versus concept too... Oh well
Did Kagari not specifically state that Aranea was created to just be a boss fight? I thought for sure she did
Glad they didn't stick to the original designs, they all look too similar for my taste
I think it was Nomura
Did Kagari not specifically state that Aranea was created to just be a boss fight? I thought for sure she did
I think it was Nomura
Ah so that is one thing XV undoubtedly did better then.He did say that.
Noctis & his bandmates are the best & only good part of FFXV's storytelling. Try harder, edgelord.