slightconfuse
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Yea wouldn't mind a 1 hero mode but it would be hard to coordinate
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Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
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orthodoxy1095
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Easy way to troll someone who was trouncing you.
Won Numbani attack with Symmetra (me) and five Tracers in quick play. No Winston, Bastion ult or molten core could stop us.
Symmetra is a beast at taking out Torb turrets and occasionally Bastion from range. Energy balls have a large hitbox, easy aiming, 2 of them kill a level 2 turret. Any turret damage you take whilst peeking are recovered thanks to your 100hp shields. A truly underrated attack character.
Symmetra is a beast at taking out Torb turrets and occasionally Bastion from range. Energy balls have a large hitbox, easy aiming, 2 of them kill a level 2 turret. Any turret damage you take whilst peeking are recovered thanks to your 100hp shields. A truly underrated attack character.
Such a nerf to the OT.
Can't wait for impressions when people try the MOBAWatch brawl (whenever it shows up).
Can't wait for impressions when people try the MOBAWatch brawl (whenever it shows up).
Wyndstryker
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I tried Symmetra on attack once and it was brutal. I think she's far more versatile than people think.
i cannot make any progress because of this flaw
one loss just wipes out those leaver wins
orthodoxy1095
Banned
We get nerfs for everything in OW. Even our OTs
Ok, had some really good competitive games, climbed quite a bit, maybe I can get to 60 by the end of season now, lol.
KoTH, first round we go, the janky team comp, I pick lucio trying to carry all that maybe lol. We got rekt by the opponent who had mercy and lucio.
Next round, I called, we need two support to have a chance, someone else came up too and backed me up and I made the Mei switch to Reaper, that shitty team that got blown up in the first round went 3-1.
Somehow the opponents become stupid too after they were pressured and dropped their two support set up, instead played an awful tracer and mei, fine by me!
Mechanically people are like about the same in these mediocre average middle of the curve, they just have mostly no clue what to play and when, if you can get the word out and call the shots politely, people are likely to listen, they want to win here too. There is a good post on /r/competitiveoverwatch with some good advice for solo q. Lesson learned, use your mics or even type, it can go a long way. It helps to solo q at the time you would think more dedicated players would play too. Both teams were mostly prestige players. When it works out like this, comp is awesome, even if I lose I don't care, game was good. It might not work but sure it's worth trying.
KoTH, first round we go, the janky team comp, I pick lucio trying to carry all that maybe lol. We got rekt by the opponent who had mercy and lucio.
Next round, I called, we need two support to have a chance, someone else came up too and backed me up and I made the Mei switch to Reaper, that shitty team that got blown up in the first round went 3-1.
Somehow the opponents become stupid too after they were pressured and dropped their two support set up, instead played an awful tracer and mei, fine by me!
Mechanically people are like about the same in these mediocre average middle of the curve, they just have mostly no clue what to play and when, if you can get the word out and call the shots politely, people are likely to listen, they want to win here too. There is a good post on /r/competitiveoverwatch with some good advice for solo q. Lesson learned, use your mics or even type, it can go a long way. It helps to solo q at the time you would think more dedicated players would play too. Both teams were mostly prestige players. When it works out like this, comp is awesome, even if I lose I don't care, game was good. It might not work but sure it's worth trying.
CybernatonEvolution
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I just had some awesome games with finalflame--we carried the hell out of two teams. Then we get screwed by a quitter on the opposite team, and the third match is sudden death that screwed us. The fourth match was horseshit; we couldn't carry them enough.
Literally meme. Read the chat:
The physical limit of carrying people:
Literally meme. Read the chat:
The physical limit of carrying people:
Well, they'll eventually get theirs when they are banned for the season. The fuckkery should be expected the first couple of weeks.
orthodoxy1095
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He fairly effectively can dislodge, if not outright counter, some of the more stationary heroes. He's pretty great.
144 Hz is nothing special in this game.
The amount of Tracers and Reapers I've killed by keeping a continuous spawn of turrets. People think her turrets have no utility on attack, but they protect against flankers.
finalflame
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We once had a Symmetra on Volskaya Industries attack who sneaked all the way to point B, to put her teleport down for us to use right after we took point A lol. The enemy team didn't know what him them when we all came from behind. :'D
I still can't play Symmetra though. Always instantly die when I try to zap people.
CybernatonEvolution
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It was 99ms today in the earlier matches, but then it went to shit.
I got four medals with Renihardt while having 300ms ping. Imagine what would I do if I had 5ms ping.
orthodoxy1095
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But hero stacking is SO interesting.
If this is a glimpse of the future of Overwatch comp, I don't think I'll be interested.
We get to try SO many creative compositions.
Lmaoooooooo
therealminime
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Just had a whole team of randoms in competitive in voice chat blame reaper solely for losing the game. It was gross. We were screwed regardless.
I think the RPS nature of the game means that whilst skill matters, it doesn't matter as much as in other games like CS or even TF2, and instead people need to be able to adapt and change heroes on the fly and stuff and so many people just struggle with that, I don't really understand why. If you can get a team with a strong base (i.e 2 support and 2 tanks and no shitty Hanzo or Genji or Mei) then you are in a good spot to do well.
I've been in teams that have destroyed the other, but then people get cocky and switch classes (example: Zenyatta instead of Mercy, Mei instead of Zarya) which gives us a shit team comp and we get destroyed back. I've also been on the reverse of that and made big comebacks because our team switches up and the other team changes what works. A lot of people still don't understand how important a good team comp is.
Tyrant Rave
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best strategy for Hanamura attack right here:
I think I need someone to explain a bit of Comp logic to me.
So we're defending on Route 66, and both teams do pretty awesome, but we're down to the last stretch. The payload is about halfway to the final point... the timer goes out, the match ends, and the defenders lose.
The payload didn't make it to the end, and the defenders lose? Is that a thing in competitive?
So we're defending on Route 66, and both teams do pretty awesome, but we're down to the last stretch. The payload is about halfway to the final point... the timer goes out, the match ends, and the defenders lose.
The payload didn't make it to the end, and the defenders lose? Is that a thing in competitive?
I see that on the coin flip for Hanamura a lot. Why does it work?
These past 2 days on PS4 I'm having lots of really exciting and intense games in Competitive. Win or lose the games are often very close, plus there are definitely more people chatting on their mics. Joining a lobby with 3-4 people talking is perfect and transforms the game into an entirely different animal compared to silent Quick Play.
As others have said though Blizzard really needs to tweak the skill rating gain/loss as well as punish intentional leavers more harshly. I know it's only been days since it's release but even so there are some glaring problems.
As others have said though Blizzard really needs to tweak the skill rating gain/loss as well as punish intentional leavers more harshly. I know it's only been days since it's release but even so there are some glaring problems.
orthodoxy1095
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Reap says helloooo.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Posted this in the old thread by mistake
Decided to do one placement game solo q'd to see if I could keep the loosing streak going. Ended up wining. Couldnt reach the end of the tracks on attack but got farther than the enemy team did
Calling it a night on a win. Maybe tomorrow will yield good results/mates again.
Also somehow doing far better with widow post nerf. Maybe it because I'm not trying to abuse quickscoping anymore.
Calling it a night on a win. Maybe tomorrow will yield good results/mates again.
Also somehow doing far better with widow post nerf. Maybe it because I'm not trying to abuse quickscoping anymore.
Yes, if the attackers scored more points overall and pushed the payload closer to the final point than the defending team did when they were attacking.
I'm assuming that the new tweak to the skill rating gain (and loss?) will show how much of the bars is made up of individual performance, team skill average, win/loss, etc.
Seems like a good idea to me if that is it.
I also hope they show how they come to the severely nerfed skill rating gain when an opponent player leaves.
gonna stream a few if anyones bored, never really done much of it so apologies if its weird
https://www.twitch.tv/rixan954
https://www.twitch.tv/rixan954
Watching only complaint, which is minor, is that your keyboard sounds really loud on the stream so maybe it's near you're mic. Or do you have a mechanical keyboard?
orthodoxy1095
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Yes. That can happen.
Example.
Dorado.
My team basically got trapped at spawn. We moved the payload roughly 20 meters by the time the timer ran out.
My team now defending. The attacking team gets the payload 21 meters in about 35 seconds. We lose.
Just one case where attackers don't need to actually "win" and get the payload to the final spot.
Winning is decided by which team got the payload farther. If you're attacking on the second round and the defense side didn't complete the route on their turn then the attacking side just has to make it past the other teams distance to win. This distance is designated as a glowing rectangle on the payload route.
SliceSabre
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Remove Hanzo and Widowmaker and force the instalockers to choose someone else.
Kind of a low-skill player here. I'm at level 18, about 10 hours in, and I've got about a 40% win rate with 80 games. I would need to win the next 4 straight to have it at 50%.
For me, one intimidating factor is the simple fact that to git gud, I need to be allowed to fail, a lot. Like, right now, I kick ass with D.Va more than any other hero (got a higher than 50% winrate on her), but I've played her 3 times as much as the next hero over. I looked up videos on her and they were helpful, but the biggest thing I needed to learn was how to use her abilities syncronously. I had to learn that her guns were shit at short range and had to get in enemies faces. A D.Va that isn't flying around the map, either getting in enemies faces or flying to go behind the team isn't doing her job. I have to learn to get a feel for when there is a large assault coming up so I know when to activate defense matrix, not just to protect me, but also my team. And I had to learn that D.Va without her meka is like playing a really nerfed tracer with a better gun, a completely different playstyle. And I had to learn that my Ultimate is more useful as a way of clearing an area so my team could set an area rather than something that'll get a lot of kills (though it's satisfying as hell when you get lucky and manage to nuke an enemy team).
All that took time and a lot of failure where I made a lot of dumb mistakes, like thinking I could just waltz into a crowd of enemies. A lot of wasted Ults that did nothing to help anyone. Sure, you can look up guides and stuff, and those help, but you have to learn how to do the stuff you're supposed to do instinctive, without even thinking about it. If you are actively trying to mentally calculate when to use an ability or remember if you should try to go up against whoever, you're playing too stiffly and unnaturally to succeed most of the time.
And that was mostly okay against small level players, when my level was in the single digits. But now that I'm approaching the 20's, that's around the time people are expected to have some competency in the game. Now, a failure to effectively fulfill your function could legitimately cost the team the game, and it's harder to effectively learn from your mistakes against players who know multiple ways to take out a character.
That's a difficult time for me to choose to use Genji, a character that's super hard for me to use. I have to learn when it's a good idea to strike, when not to, against who, and how. And to do that, I simply have to fuck up a whole bunch of times until I get it right. And I have to do that for pretty much every character, even ones that are relatively easy to use. There's no other way of doing it. But if I don't want to fail, then I'm incentivized to just play with the characters I know, even if they're not pitch perfect counters, because I can more reliably play them well.
I guess you could go up against Ai's as practice, but since you know, human opponents will always be better, so it's arguable that an AI may not properly prepare you for fights against other people.
Don't do that. Widowmaker is needed when teams try to run double Pharah bullshit. The funny thing is that I rarely see Widowmaker nowadays but Hanzo still appears.
Been thinking about this competitive issue regarding payloads, and I think one problem is that these maps were originally designed to be all or nothing progression at each checkpoint. So there are chokepoints and potentially tough spots where teams are expected to get stuck, but the test is whether they can push through to the checkpoint to extend the time or not.
Maybe with competitive rules taking actual payload distance into account without needing to get to the checkpoints, the maps should be modified in that mode as well. In the same way, the existing maps with the normal objectives are a total joke in certain Weekly Brawls, but I guess no one really minds that since it isn't competitive and is just a fuck around mode. Still, I think it would be nice to be able to loosen up objectives to make the rulesets more logical. Mercy+Pharah with super short cooldowns with the current objectives doesn't make for a logical match. If it were actual TDM it would actually be much better!
Maybe with competitive rules taking actual payload distance into account without needing to get to the checkpoints, the maps should be modified in that mode as well. In the same way, the existing maps with the normal objectives are a total joke in certain Weekly Brawls, but I guess no one really minds that since it isn't competitive and is just a fuck around mode. Still, I think it would be nice to be able to loosen up objectives to make the rulesets more logical. Mercy+Pharah with super short cooldowns with the current objectives doesn't make for a logical match. If it were actual TDM it would actually be much better!
OBS (Open broadcaster software) is another one
But the lag may just be due to your encoding quality being too high for your cpu to handle. Try lowering the preset for encoding. Dunno where this would be at, as I've never used xsplit.
PhazonBlazer
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Feel free to add me on PS4, PSN is WaltJrsPancakes.
So i started at rank 52, got to rank 54, had 50/50 good and bad games to get there.
Now i seem to be getting a lot of bad games with hopeless teams, and so when i loose i go down a rank, and then it takes 2 or 3 wins to gain it back. Ranking system seems pretty harsh, i'm now rank 47. A lot of the games i loose are with teams who dont seem to switch it up and adapt to the opposition, so many games with double hanzo's, anoying as fuck! lol
Now i seem to be getting a lot of bad games with hopeless teams, and so when i loose i go down a rank, and then it takes 2 or 3 wins to gain it back. Ranking system seems pretty harsh, i'm now rank 47. A lot of the games i loose are with teams who dont seem to switch it up and adapt to the opposition, so many games with double hanzo's, anoying as fuck! lol
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