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PAL Charts - Week 52 - Wii for art thoU?
- Thread starter Clay Davis
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Gianni Merryman
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I understand there are two different versions of the game, and seeing how both have charted we can say it's selling well to say the least.
Captain Smoker
Member
Their television division should balance the losses.
Clay Davis
Member
can you by any chance screengrab the chart so I can add it to the opening post?
Maybe different sku's.
Gianni Merryman
Member
Not necessarily, there are two different versions for Assassin's creed as well - Standard one and the Join or die edition - besides aforementioned Just Dance 4.
hmm.. maybe.. just strange.. Fifa 13 is also twice, but one of the is "Bonus edition" I would think AC3 and JD4 would have something similar.. but maybe not..
Are we at the end of wiius life cycle?
pieatorium
Member
Maybe different language versions
Is this your personal preference or do you think wiiU is more important for nintendo than 3ds?
pieatorium
Member
In a more home console centric market it should be imo
But Nintendo sell more handhelds than consoles.
I don't know if that applies to PAL regions, or the US. But overall I'm pretty sure they do.Gianni Merryman
Member
To put things into some perspective NDS was esteemated in early 2011 to have sold 144 m worldwide - compared to records-breaking Wii that was esteemated to have sold "just" 84 m.
source
http://gamerinvestments.com/video-g...worldwide-ltd-sales-144m-and-84m-respectively
Captain Smoker
Member
Latest numbers as of September 2012:
NDS Hard.: 152.500.000
NDS Soft.: 917.610.000
NDS Tie-R.: 6,02
WII Hard.: 97.180.000
WII Soft.: 842.200.000
WII Tie-R.: 8,67
3DS Hard.: 22.190.000
3DS Soft.: 64.450.000
3DS Tie-R.: 2,91
Gianni Merryman
Member
Wow at Wii software sales, colour me surprised!!!
Btw 3DS should be easily over 25 m by now.
test_account
XP-39C²
The Gamecube too? I know they said it with the WiiU (profitable with 1 game sold), but i didnt know it was the same with Gamecube. But i dont doubt that the Gamecube could have been profitable, you show many examples that support this. I just wish there were some more concrete info on exactly how much potential profits we're talking about
The same thing goes for the Vita, they make money on each memorycard and game sold, plus the accessories they're selling, but i wish there were info on how much they need to sell to become profitable overall. I know about Kaz Hirai's statement about "aim to be profitable in 3 years", but that is unfortunately very vague.MK7, M3DLand and .91 of NSMB 2 then.
Gianni Merryman
Member
Btw upon trying it for a couple hours I can tell you Mario land pretty well deserves its success imo, it's very good indeed!
Aye, it's a cracker. That and Ghost Recon are the only reasons I haven't given my 3DS away.
Btw upon trying it for a couple hours I can tell you Mario land pretty well deserves its success imo, it's very good indeed!
Funny how people think the wii tie-r is like 2 or 3
Gianni Merryman
Member
Then I'll give you another good reason not to sell your 3DS: Monster hunter 3 ultimate releasing next March-April, unless you feel like buying it instead for Wii U to play it online on a bigger screen.
I don't know if you've played other installments of the series before, either way if you have missed it out, Tri on Wii gets very addicting and time-draining once you get to fight the first monsters, besides I appreciate this version is bigger, so I warmly recommend it to you, although I see it's not everyone's cup of tea of course.
AdventureRacing
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They don't only make COD but it is probably the biggest franchise in gaming. I really find it hard to see them taking any risks to a franchise that currently brings in over a billion dollars in revenue every year just to force their fan base to migrate to the next gen of consoles.
Maybe they will but it would be a big risk to take and would almost surely cost them a lot of money in the short term.
Well that means they are soon to be 3 of the best selling games of all time then
.Sho_Nuff82
Member
So is anyone going to post the Germany charts?
Gianni Merryman
Member
Well that means they are soon to be 3 of the best selling games of all time then
Speaking of which, Mario kart 7 has reached 2m in November in NA and 1.8 m in Japan so it should be at around 6m wordwide by now if not even more, considering it's being currently bundled(at least in Europe).
As for the other two, I gather they have been selling hugely as well.
Captain Smoker
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Super Mario 3D Land: 5.840.000 (Mar' 12)
Mario Kart 7: 5.240.000 (Mar' 12)
New Super Mario Bros. 2: 3.250.000 (Sep' 12)
3D Land should be well over 6.000.000 by now, Mario Kart 7 should be around 6.000.000 units.
Mario Bros. 2 could be around 5.000.000 by now.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Sent an email to my Zavvi contact. Want to know why added Epic Mickey to the new bundle, I figure they ran out of agreed trade credit and the new bundle is selling for a loss.
I've tried MH on PSP and Wii. I'll just say it's most certainly not my cup of tea!
I think they're subscriber only so that's probably dodgy ground.
Psychotext
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No! The Wii U was clearly launched in Norway last week. Mighty performance.
what is a "Live card 400" for the PS3..? do they sell 400kr. PSN cards in norway..?
Captain Smoker
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Clay Davis
Member
added to the opening post. thanks.
test_account
XP-39C²
I expect to see a PS3/Xbox 360 version the first year after PS4/Xbox 720 have launched. Maybe the year after that too. I think it depends on how they will take the serie forward (regarding what game engine they will use etc.). They would have to devote an extra team to port it if they're going to use a very different game engine.
Yep, 200kr and 400kr is available. They also sell PS+ cards, both 90 days and 1 year subscriptions.
test_account
XP-39C²
Double post.
Clay Davis
Member
interesting. so zavvi seem pretty intent on getting rid of stock any way they can.
nowt wrong wrong with a quick and dirty c&p job.
Godly tie ratio for an handheld.
France Week 51:
TOP 5
1 - COD : Blacks ops 2 - PS3 - Activision Blizzard
2 - Assassin's Creed 3 - Bonus Edition PS3 - Ubisoft
3 - FIFA 13 - PS3 - Electronic Arts
4 - COD : Blacks ops 2 - XBox 360 - Activision Blizzard
5 - Far Cry 3 - PS3 - Ubisoft
TOP 5
1 - COD : Blacks ops 2 - PS3 - Activision Blizzard
2 - Assassin's Creed 3 - Bonus Edition PS3 - Ubisoft
3 - FIFA 13 - PS3 - Electronic Arts
4 - COD : Blacks ops 2 - XBox 360 - Activision Blizzard
5 - Far Cry 3 - PS3 - Ubisoft
Father_Brain
Banned
Convinsing stores to stock Vitas shouldnt be a problem as long as there is some demand at all, just look at Xbox 360 in Japan
360 sells well in two out of three major territories, and gets major Western and Japanese third-party support from all publishers on the basis of its strong Western sales. Vita sells abysmally in all three, and gets abysmal third-party support from both Western and Japanese publishers. In the former situation, it's not hard to justify continuing to supply a trickle of units to the one territory where the platform is basically irrelevant. If sales are terrible in all three territories with no real hope for recovery, then it's going to be increasingly difficult for Sony to justify continuing to support or manufacture the platform.
If 360 had sales and third-party support worldwide as bad as Vita's, they'd have exited the hardware business years ago. Ditto for Sony.
Dreamcast continued to get Japanese niche titles for years after the hardware ended production. I can easily see the same happening for Vita.
Baki
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The problem with the WiiU is fundamental to its design. The machine follows the same design philosophy as the Wii but lacks the price and appeal for the audience. In this industry you either target the core consumer with flashy graphics, flashy games - where you can charge a higher entry point for this machine.
Or you target the younger/family audience - which in this climate requires a lower entry point because the machine is essentially treated as a 'toy' and hence the expectations for the price come to anything below £200.
Or you target the younger/family audience - which in this climate requires a lower entry point because the machine is essentially treated as a 'toy' and hence the expectations for the price come to anything below £200.
test_account
XP-39C²
True, but it still cost money for Microsoft to operate in Japan. One could say that it would be pointless to continue there based on the hardware sales and apply the same reasons you gave earlier (opportunity costs etc., using the money elsewhere). But my main point regarding this was that there wouldnt be hard to get stores to sell something that doesnt sell a lot, using Xbox 360 in Japan as an example, where the Vita sales actually looks good in comparison, but yet the Xbox 360 is being sold there.
I still dont see any reason to discontinue the Vita hardware within spring 2014 because the production line is already set up, and they could just cut back on a lot of expences and sell it with a slight profit. Cutting it off would mean no income at all from it. Even if they manage to sell a million units a year, i think it can be worth it compared to just drop it completely.
I wouldnt say abysmal 3rd party support in Japan. The Vita actually has many 3rd party games coming, even if they arent huge sellers. Its not super great support, but not something i would call abysmal. The WiiU might fit the abysmal description better at this point (2-3 known 3rd party japanese games coming and they're ports of older games).
Me too, but i dont think the hardware production will end in about a year from now.
Sho_Nuff82
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UK, sorry. Will edit.
Father_Brain
Banned
Again, even assuming that Sony can turn a profit on Vita hardware - which I think is a highly, highly dubious proposition given the economy of scale such a thing would require - how does it make sense to keep pumping money into the Vita business if they stand to gain more from PS4 and/or PSM, which they almost certainly would unless Vita sales somehow improve dramatically?
Wii U, at minimum, has an enhanced version of DQX coming this year. Vita has absolutely no third-party software announced that will have a measurable impact on hardware sales, and considering that Sony is the platform holder that's far more dependent on third-party support, "abysmal" hardly seems unfair.
bigtroyjon
Member
Thanks!
Clay Davis
Member
still no german chart?