It's weird, and I know it's stupid, but... the name really puts me off.
How fucking shallow am I?
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It's weird, and I know it's stupid, but... the name really puts me off.
How fucking shallow am I?
TJP
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The amount of times I've read GSC-E is nothing more than an rFactor mod when it's so removed from being just a mod. So few want to even try something new that is based on isiMotor 2 and I don't understand why. The underpinnings are old but sublime in the right hands. It's fair to state GSC-E isn't a looker when directly compared to AC, PCars or R3E but the physics, racing & FFB sure are. As a plus GSC-E runs on pretty ancient hardware so there is no excuse not to at least try it.
The name is stupid to someone outside Brazil but it's basically a V8 touring car simulation with a shitload of other cars (lot's of F1 cars) as you can see here: http://game-stockcar.com.br/?lang=en#info There isn't a dud car in GSC-E as far as I can tell...not that I've driven an F1 car
GSC-E should have been called Brazilian V8 Supercars/Touring cars for people outside of Brasil as I think the name scares the unwilling off. This reminds me, we are getting Aussie V8's very soon; physics & sound by Reiza and models from the team fronting the cash for Reiza to make the cars. Hopefully a few Aussie tracks arrrive too! Just another layer of awesome to an already fanastic racing sim.@ Mascot - If you enjoy GTR 2 and the Power and Glory mod, you'll love GSC-E. Why you are choosing to miss out on something excellent because of the name baffles me.
I should be ashamed ... I'm from Brazil. I own Assetto Corsa and pCARS (on PS4), but I've never owned a Reiza game ... It's mostly about finding the time to play all these games! I got Assetto Corsa because of its Oculus support and I got pCARS to play multiplayer with friends.
One thing that makes me a bit uncertain about Reiza games is that it's based off rfactor 1. A game that I could never get into. Is this something I should overlook? Also, how is that AI? I hate the AI in AC and I like the AI in pCARS, but I'd like something in between the 2. AI that is aggressive, but not suicidal.
I should buy it just to support one of the only Brazilian studio out there.
I was waiting for the Steam sale to grab it (I'm a loser in life, don't judge me) but now I don't have a wheel anymore, so I don't know if it's worth to buy it to play with an Xbox pad. =/
The IA is top notch. Why don't you try the demo? http://game-stockcar.com.br/downloads/
Also, if you wanna try something from Reiza without spending a dime, try the Copa Petrobras de Marcas: http://store.steampowered.com/app/359800/
The IA is top notch. Why don't you try the demo? http://game-stockcar.com.br/downloads/
Also, if you wanna try something from Reiza without spending a dime, try the Copa Petrobras de Marcas: http://store.steampowered.com/app/359800/
I have a "rig" (T500+Playseat) but only own AC and some older sims at the moment, but my excuse is time. I didn't have the time to play that much over the past few years. Now that I have more time I will likely pick up more stuff. It is weird that people perfectly capable of playing great sims would choose to avoid one.
On that note, I finally picked up the Dream Pack 1 stuff. Can't wait to try out the Nordschleife.
He hee..! I'm not choosing to miss out on it as such, I just haven't actively bought it (and not really because of the silly name that gives me NASCAR nightmares
).GTR2/PnG (and to a lesser extent, AC) was keeping me more than busy through my creaky old laptop, then pCARS launched and I bought a PS4 for it.
When I finally (finally!) build a gaming PC I will no doubt try GSC. I've heard nothing but good things about it (apart from its silly name, of course).
TJP
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The fact it's based off rFactor is a blessing and a curse. The curse is the graphics aren't cutting edge - okay to fair compared to what you've got but the rest of the sim is up with the best available on PC. Watch some YouTube reviews (e.g. Betta Lines, Empty Box, Inside Sim Racing, The SimPit etc) and you'll see that the 92% community rating isn't a fluke. SCE is not perfect by any means but it's a very damn good sim.
The AI is very rFactor - very solid but not without it's own set of flaws (a point which Empty Box covers). It'll give you a decent race without too much crazy contact etc. The AI in AC is brain dead and the PCars is better than AC's but a way behind Reiza's sim, R3E and rF2.
As for supporting Reiza, do it. They've been the most generous developer I've seen apart from CD Projekt RED. All of the extra content added to GSC-E has been completely free. Reiza deserve every cent they can get.
Is that really small in proportion to other sim racers?
There's quite a few out there, so I imagine at some point, many people just wont desire having 10 different sim racers in their library.
That's kind of my philosophy at the moment. I'd rather be balls-deep in a couple of them than merely scratching the surface of several.
Betta Lines
Member
Be careful with that FFB
marvelharvey
Member
IIRC (sadly I can't find the link), from the 1000+ survey from last year:
AC was 90%+
GTR2 65+
rFactor 60ish
rFactor2 45ish
pCars 35ish
SCE 30ish
Obviously this was before pCars was publicly released and before SCE was available on Steam.
The more recent survey from a smaller sample size can be found here. Remember, it's only around 300 people this time, so perhaps not very representative.
Especially post patch 1.4 on pCARS... that shit was thumb-removingly brutal.
Betta Lines
Member
The F1 GTR + a change of pants.
Big Takeover
Member
I'd love to find the source of the first set of numbers, but the second set is fascinating.
Does the rising tide (AC) float all boats, or is it just a black hole? I bet if you gave this survey two years ago (pre-AC) the percentages would be way up. What skews it is all the people who came to the party with AC.
I'm not knocking that. That's great, and very important for sim racing. I think we'll need more time to see all how much the AC and pCARS folks spend money elsewhere.
marvelharvey
Member
I wish I could recall. It was somewhere neutral though, and not on any of the developers' forums.
AC Bonus Pack officially unveiled - coming with 1.2 in July - Free.
Looking good - can't wait for the road GT-R and need to brush up on my Zandvoort knowledge.
edit: Audi started as a mod - very cool.
Looking good - can't wait for the road GT-R and need to brush up on my Zandvoort knowledge.
edit: Audi started as a mod - very cool.
TJP
Member
Reddit was mentioned as the source of data on the rFactor 2 forums - I've no idea if that's true.
A semi-sim is featured in the Steam sales - Grid: Autosport for $9.99 USD (75% discount) and the various DLC is 60% off.
TJP
Member
You can read about the project here: http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/ozv8-crowd-fund-project.103435/ Edit: renders of cars here: http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/ozv8-crowd-fund-project.103435/page-4#post-2016354
The mod is progressing slowly as the people behind it want their mod to be as good as anything Reiza have made.
Hm... I don't mind the look of Autosport, but $10 is still a little too much for me. Not that I'm being the typical tightwad, but I don't think I'd get it for much more than $5.
That looks insane right now. I wonder what Reiza themselves could be working on where the sounds and physics are the same as what the OZV8 guys are doing? Are there any Australian V8s running in any other series overseas?
FWIW, Autosport is the most fun I've had in a racing game since V8 Supercars/TOCA 2, and is pretty much a love letter to those games. $10 is a steal.
I second that. It's fuckin' amazing!
TJP
Member
Add me to the list that enjoy Autosport. It's the best CM game in quite a while; only Dirt Rally is better from CM. Plus there wasn't a list of glitches, bugs and other fuckups we're used to seeing in their F1 games.
Reiza are working on the sounds, physics and FFB. The car models are being completed elsewhere and they've been several businesses jump on board as well as private funders so we all get the mod for free.
Reiza accidently added the realfeel settings in the latest patch from what I remember
This is coming to another sim..
cutmeamango
Banned
Probably RRE.
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Happy to see free DLC from Kunos, I should buy the dream pack already.
its time... when playing iracing, i just do training sessions from tuesday until friday evening. races from friday evening until sunday. that is only if i am at home over the weekend and find the times mid week.
dont know how to find the time for more racing games, especialy if i want to play sometimes other stuff like nhl for fun.
BADNED
Member
Big Takeover
Member
Very nice!
LordAmused
Member
Betta Lines
Member
Have you played a simulator with a 360 controller before? Because not everyone is comfortable with it...
LordAmused
Member
Are F1 games considered arcade? 'Cause I've been playing those since the 2010 version, with the 360 controller.
Betta Lines
Member
They are, but towards the serious end. I'd say PCARS with the right combination of assists can be made to feel fairly similar on a pad.
LordAmused
Member
Allright, SOLD! Thanks for your answers!
Do you like playing unfinished games?
I want to be you.
Unfinished, unpolished and baffling in a few areas, yet still the biggest thrills and most fun I've ever had in a racing game. Last night's MP lobby with a big bunch of like-minded racers was pretty damn epic.
VVV Mars VG
Member
Been playing Macau on R3E, always a great challenge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaSLEuOoeMs
Big Takeover
Member
I've really enjoyed the couple of races I did on Macau. Yes, the hairpin is problematic for the AI, but past lap 1 it's not too bad. If I recall correctly, Race07 went the other direction, and just brought them through at a snail's pace.
From a player perspective, we could really use proper support for triples there!
Speaking of Race07, the new WTCC/Macau combo really underlines the progress they've made with R3E to get it back to SimBin levels of respectability.
I have a love/hate relationship with Macau. On one hand, it's probably one of the most fun street circuits in the world with how tight it is and the complexity of the circuit. On the other hand, I always end up in a wall somewhere, forcing me to either limp back to the pits or take a DNF. Maybe I'll pick it up one day in the future for R3E along with the WTCC content.
Big Takeover
Member
Whatever you do, just don't spin
This must be the 15th time I'm installing Race Room on my computer because you guys keep talking about it, and I know that by tomorrow I'll be uninstalling again in disappointment.
The conversion from Dollars to Brazilian Reais doesn't help. Even with discounts, I still find their stuff expensive. I've spent some money on it in the past, but no more. But hell, you guys keep talking about it, so here I am installing it again... -.-'
It can't be worse than Monte Carlo in Dirt Rally... ;(
The conversion from Dollars to Brazilian Reais doesn't help. Even with discounts, I still find their stuff expensive. I've spent some money on it in the past, but no more. But hell, you guys keep talking about it, so here I am installing it again... -.-'
Whatever you do, just don't spin
It can't be worse than Monte Carlo in Dirt Rally... ;(