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[biggersmaller]

It's imperfect, but I love the games I've played so far (Wolfenstein, THLOU, Dragon Age looks good, etc.)

I enjoy my 400 dollar netflix box!

For media it really sucks. No media remote, no DLNA support, no HBOgo via Comcast, no HDD native support for anything but MP3. I bought it for games, but I really did expect it to do what the PS3 already could in this regard.

 

[JordanN]

A genuine question: What can save PS4 in Japan? Morpheus? Yakuza? Eroge and VN? Idolmaster? Final Fantasy XV? Or none? I am a bit depressed when seeing that Japan has evolved into a mobile game market recently.

I think it's Morpheus.

1. It's a new gadget. People like new things.
2. Japan doesn't care about high end PC gaming. It's possible Morpheus could become the defacto VR device for the Japanese.
3. If VR is a success, it could lead to Japanese developers making a resurgence in video games. VR could be like the early PS1 days where games were free to take risks without worrying about blowing budget.
4. Sony is already putting one of their Japanese teams on it.

 

[slavesnyder]

I think it's Morpheus.

1. It's a new gadget. People like new things.
2. Japan doesn't care about high end PC gaming. It's possible Morpheus could become the defacto VR device for the Japanese.
3. If VR is a success, it could lead to Japanese developers making a resurgence in video games. VR could be like the early PS1 days where games where free to take risks without worrying about blowing budget.
4. Sony is already putting one of their Japanese teams on it.

Also, you don't even need a huge living room.
A kapuseru hoteru might be enough...

 

[Kosma]

You don't think it will sell millions? Persona 4 Golden on the Vita sold 900k. Persona 5 will definitely sell millions on the PS3/PS4, especially with the lack of JRPGs on the PS4.

Didnt know p4 did 900k, nice!

I just started it now and liking it, so def gonna pick up 5

I do feel they should have made a vita version too.

 

[Elfstruck]

Didnt know p4 did 900k, nice!

I just started it now and liking it, so def gonna pick up 5

I do feel they should have made a vita version too.

It will be on handheld in a couples of years, so probably not on Vita.

 

[Melchiah]

For media it really sucks. No media remote, no DLNA support, no HBOgo via Comcast, no HDD native support for anything but MP3. I bought it for games, but I really did expect it to do what the PS3 already could in this regard.

Why not use the TV remote via HDMI-CEC?

 

[FATALITY]

Why not use the TV remote via HDMI-CEC?

shhhh we have to build a list.

 

[3rdamention]

It's imperfect, but I love the games I've played so far (Wolfenstein, THLOU, Dragon Age looks good, etc.)



For media it really sucks. No media remote, no DLNA support, no HBOgo via Comcast, no HDD native support for anything but MP3. I bought it for games, but I really did expect it to do what the PS3 already could in this regard.

I know it's not full DLNA support, but you can use the Plex web browser app to stream all your videos from your PC to your Ps4.. Once you log into your Plex account in the PS4 Browser, just bookmark it for easy access baby...

 

[1st Course]

If we look at sofware sales between gen 6 and gen 7, did we really see an increase proportional to the "magic 80" we suddenly saw popping up in Wii sales?
Because in the end, it's probably software sales that are indicating of a market's health, and the Wii was (or so I have been reading I think) notoriously bad for 3rd party titles, with the possible exception of some "Dance" or other motion based titles.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=963700

The Wii was great for third parties. 3rd parties sold hundred of millions of software units. The notion that 3rd parties sold poorly on the Wii is just one huge myth. Ubisoft, Activision, EA etc all made a killing on the Wii, just look up their 2007-2010 reports .

 

[IndoAssassin]

And yet AMD's stock price and market cap is still garbage.

https://www.google.com/finance?q=AMD

Because last quarter they lost some marketshare to Nvidia and have been really struggling in the CPU front for the past decade. They generally lose money every quarter or barely make a profit.

The slim profit margins from consoles is nowhere near enough to cover the rest of their business.

 

[biggersmaller]

Why not use the TV remote via HDMI-CEC?

It does not play well with my receiver. Which is not uncommon. I'm just saying a remote would be nice. Hell, Sony could use the money from some overpriced accessories and I could use another remote as nice as the PS3 remote so I stop accidentally hitting the shoulder buttons.

 

[Melchiah]

It does not play well with my receiver. Which is not uncommon. I'm just saying a remote would be nice. Hell, Sony could use the money from some overpriced accessories and I could use another remote as nice as the PS3 remote so I stop accidentally hitting the shoulder buttons.

I've never had problem with it myself (Bravia TV, no receiver), but a Bluetooth remote would be nice though.

 

[shiftplusone]

i have a harmony remote that the ps4 doesn't work with and its mildly annoying

means the xbox gets more play (as a netflix box)

 

[Melchiah]

i have a harmony remote that the ps4 doesn't work with and its mildly annoying

means the xbox gets more play (as a netflix box)

I still use the PS3 for Netflix. Mainly because the system works as my media hub, and I kinda want to spare the PS4 from keeping it on for hours when I'm watching series on Netflix.

 

[stryke]

Didnt know p4 did 900k, nice!

I just started it now and liking it, so def gonna pick up 5

I do feel they should have made a vita version too.

I don't know where he got that 900k figure from. The last figure released that I know of is 700k at the end of 2013.

 

[driver116]

It does not play well with my receiver. Which is not uncommon. I'm just saying a remote would be nice. Hell, Sony could use the money from some overpriced accessories and I could use another remote as nice as the PS3 remote so I stop accidentally hitting the shoulder buttons.

They should copy the Amazon one (with mic built in).

I still use the PS3 for Netflix. Mainly because the system works as my media hub, and I kinda want to spare the PS4 from keeping it on for hours when I'm watching series on Netflix.

PS4 would probably be the better option as it uses less power, is less noisy and from what I can tell has better power management. Just needs the damn functionality.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I don't know where he got that 900k figure from. The last figure released that I know of is 700k at the end of 2013.

And it's been more than a year since then, with a P4GA anime which boosted sales and a "the Best" Vita re-release in Japan. The last figure released was 350k copies shipped in Japan (including digital), on April 8, 2014. 800k-900k seems like a likely number right now, though we don't know for sure.

 

[Melchiah]

PS4 would probably be the better option as it uses less power, is less noisy and from what I can tell has better power management. Just needs the damn functionality.

And far more snappier. My PS3 slim (the first kind) is pretty silent though. Dust build up is a pretty big problem in this old house I'm living in, so I'm keeping the PS4 dedicated to games for now.

I haven't really watched BRs/DVDs lately, due to the rental stores disappearing from the neighborhood, but is the PS3 still a better player than the PS4?

 

[driver116]

And far more snappier. My PS3 slim (the first kind) is pretty silent though. Dust build up is a pretty big problem in this old house I'm living in, so I'm keeping the PS4 dedicated to games for now.

I haven't really watched BRs/DVDs lately, due to the rental stores disappearing from the neighborhood, but is the PS3 still a better player than the PS4?

Yeah, may fat PS3 used to clog up - I often had to dismantle it and hover it out.

To be honest I think they're about equal - I can't think of any benefit either has over one another. They're both dedicated also believe (ie run outside of the OS).

 

[Melchiah]

Yeah, may fat PS3 used to clog up - I often had to dismantle it and hover it out.

To be honest I think they're about equal - I can't think of any benefit either has over one another. They're both dedicated also believe (ie run outside of the OS).

My 60GB PS3 sounded like a Hoover. Watching movies with it wasn't what I'd call a pleasant experience.

IIRC, I read somewhere over here, that the PS4 wasn't as good BR/DVD player as the PS3, but it's been a while and I don't remember the exact reasons for it.

 

[driver116]

My 60GB PS3 sounded like a Hoover. Watching movies with it wasn't what I'd call a pleasant experience.

IIRC, I read somewhere over here, that the PS4 wasn't as good BR/DVD player as the PS3, but it's been a while and I don't remember the exact reasons for it.

I've watched a handful of Blurays on PS4 and they played fine. I think it has the same on-screen tools as the PS3 one.

 

[EdReedFan20]

My 60GB PS3 sounded like a Hoover. Watching movies with it wasn't what I'd call a pleasant experience.

IIRC, I read somewhere over here, that the PS4 wasn't as good BR/DVD player as the PS3, but it's been a while and I don't remember the exact reasons for it.

Could've been back when the PS4 didn't play 3D Blu-Rays, which it does do now.

 

[GalacticMouse]

Why not use the TV remote via HDMI-CEC?

Mine doesn't work right for this. I did, however, already give Sony $25

Spoiler

literally, as I bought it at a Sony store

for a Bluetooth media remote that should have no problem connecting to the PS4's hardware if it weren't for software limitations.

Seems like something they should've patched in by now.

EDIT: As stated by someone above, my Harmony remote also doesn't work, which is disappointing.

 

[Dirtyshubb]

My 60GB PS3 sounded like a Hoover. Watching movies with it wasn't what I'd call a pleasant experience.

IIRC, I read somewhere over here, that the PS4 wasn't as good BR/DVD player as the PS3, but it's been a while and I don't remember the exact reasons for it.

The PS4 did suffer from sometimes going out of sync, audio wise which was very annoying. I don’t think I have seen it recently so im not sure if that issue has been fixed.

 

[Melchiah]

Could've been back when the PS4 didn't play 3D Blu-Rays, which it does do now.

The PS4 did suffer from sometimes going out of sync, audio wise which was very annoying. I don’t think I have seen it recently so im not sure if that issue has been fixed.

Well, I don't have a 3D TV, so that doesn't concern me unlike the audio issue, which sounds like a bigger problem if it isn't fixed yet.

Mine doesn't work right for this. I did, however, already give Sony $25

Spoiler

literally, as I bought it at a Sony store

for a Bluetooth media remote that should have no problem connecting to the PS4's hardware if it weren't for software limitations.

Seems like something they should've patched in by now.

EDIT: As stated by someone above, my Harmony remote also doesn't work, which is disappointing.

A dedicated Bluetooth remote would be welcomed, as the TV remote doesn't have the same features.