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PlayStation Exec Says First Party Game Lineup Was “Not As Strong” in 2015

My baby Aloy better be confirmed for 2016 or else I'm going to kill a fly.
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I'm skeptical about this being a 2016 release(moreso than The Last Guardian), but I would rather have it delayed than rushed to meet some arbitrary deadline. PS4 will be fine in 2016 regardless. Sony is in a position now where games don't need to be rushed to market.
 

RK128

Member
Didn't they say this for 2014 too :l?

I get it takes a long while to make video games and rushing them is NEVER a good idea. But still, they could of did a bit more these past two years.

Considering Santa Monica's game was likely a 2015 title before it was canned and Uncharted 4 was originally coming out this year, they had a big game plain for 2015, it was just that plans fell flat (Uncharted 4 needing more time) or projects completely being thrown out the window (Santa Monica's new IP dying...RIP :().

2016 will be an amazing year for PS, as a lot is coming out.

First Party:
-Ratchet & Clank
-Uncharted 4
-Gravity Rush 2
-Last Guardian
-Horizon Zero Dawn
-Dreams
-(Likely)- Crash Bandicoot
-(Maybe)- Sony Bends New IP

Plus other exclusives/remasters:
-World of Final Fantasy
-Nier 2
-Persona 5 (PS3 Version coming too)
-Kingdom Hearts 2.8 HD
-Dragon Quest XI (JP)
-Dragon Quest Heroes 2 (JP & Likely NA/EU)
-Dragon Quest Builders (JP & Maybe NA/EU)
-Gravity Rush Remastered
-Street Fighter V (PC Version coming)
-No Mans Sky
-Rime
-Wild
 

Illucio

Banned
Well at least next year it will be the greatest line up in history.

That's what we said last year....

I'm skeptical about this being a 2016 release(moreso than The Last Guardian), but I would rather have it delayed than rushed to meat some arbitrary deadline. PS4 will be fine in 2016 regardless. Sony is in a position now where games don't need to be rushed to market.

I thought that as well, but the game was being worked on 2-3 years before it's announcement. So I have more reason to believe it's going to be released on time.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
2016's looking strong, even just in the first half. If they can get at least TLG, GT, or Horizon out in the later half (I doubt all three will hit) it'll be quite a bit heavier than this year. At this point, I'd rather they just focus on letting their teams really polish the games up and have them be high quality.
 

RK128

Member
My baby Aloy better be confirmed for 2016 or else I'm going to kill a fly.
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Considering the Killzone Team has been working on this ever since Shadow Fall released has me hoping a Fall 2016 happens.

But due to the fact Square is giving a lot of great stuff on PS systems next fall (Nier 2, FFXV, Dragon Quest Heroes 2, ect) and Persona 5 is coming as well, waiting a few months for Horizon won't be too bad.
 
It was a very weak year for Sony's first party. Did they have anything besides The Order 1866 and Until Dawn? Bloodborne was a third party exclusive

Bloodborne is first party. It´s fully owned and published by Sony. Same with the Order, and UD. All 3 are made by third parties by the games are considered first party since Sony owns and publish them.
 
I've found XB1's exclusives more to my liking this genration, but I did get a PS4 for friends and the third party versions anyway.

2016 looks better, but funny how a little goodwill from the audience and a few good, key decisions let them carry momentum over into a third Christmas. This generation really was over at the 'Bone reveal.
 
It was lacking in 2013 (for PS4, that is. Though it was understandable).
It was lacking in 2014.
It was lacking in 2015.

2016 better be incredible.
 
VR development making Sony's traditional PS4 games lineup look anemic. Hopefully their strategy bears more fruit in 2016, because there are a lot of Sony studios that haven't shown their full hand yet.

Nah delays did that but next year look very strong if everything comes out .
 
If people are not counting Bloodborne because of FROM, you have to remember that Sony doesn't own Ready at Dawn (The Order) or Supermassive (Until Dawn) either.
 
That's what we said last year....



I thought that as well, but the game was being worked on 2-3 years before it's announcement. So I have more reason to believe it's going to be released on time.

I definitely believe it could be ready in Fall 2016. I'm just saying if it needs more time like Uncharted 4 did I'm OK with that.

A huge open world RPG is no small task, especially for a studio that has never made one before.
 

zsynqx

Member
It hasn't been amazing but I don't think it was terrible. Bloodborne was pretty great (not Das1 great) and Until Dawn was brilliant. I think 2014 was much worse.

I just need Uncharted 4.

It was a very weak year for Sony's first party. Did they have anything besides The Order 1866 and Until Dawn? Bloodborne was a third party exclusive

What if I told you that Until Dawn and the Order were not made by Sony studios either. Would your head explode?
 
Their first party line up has been poor since launch.

It's as almost as they rushed the release of the console.

This year Bloodborne was all I remember and last year it was Driveclub in terms of non remastered games.

They suffered the same problem with the PS3, and I thought they would have learned from that but they haven't.
Dont get me wrong they have had a solid third party line up and have the upper hand with performance over the Xbox one but I expected more from Sony this generation

just means that like the PS3 the second half of the generation is better
 

jjonez18

Member
Stating the obvious. What else was there from WWS besides MLB? Guns Up?

The exclusive content and 3rd party collaborations were on point though. They should be patting themselves on the back for that at least. Until Dawn and Bloodborne are premiere games. Securing partnerships with huge publishers like Warner Bros, Activision, and EA doesn't hurt either.
 
I'm skeptical about this being a 2016 release(moreso than The Last Guardian), but I would rather have it delayed than rushed to meat some arbitrary deadline. PS4 will be fine in 2016 regardless. Sony is in a position now where games don't need to be rushed to market.

Still, if it gets delayed to 2017...
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Sony did extremely well this year despite the thin first party lineup.

The first half of 2016 is already jam packed with titles, and they only need 2 games (Last Guardian and GT Sport) for the next Holiday. Horizon: Zero Dawn would work perfectly fine as a February 2017 release. Other unannounced projects can stay in the oven until next year as well. This will ensure that they have a steady stream of high quality games.

With the vast amount of third party multiplats and exclusives, it's not like Sony or gamers have anything to worry about.
 
Everytime MS releases some ridiculous PR-statement about how everything they're doing is the greatest ever, people reply with "well, what are they supposed to say? It's just PR".

Well, something like this would be great.
 
Still, if it gets delayed to 2017...
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Yes it would definitely suck, but I have already prepped myself for the delay. When all they had to show at Gamescom was the demo shown behind closed doors at E3(which is almost exactly the same as the public E3 reveal) I became very skeptical of a 2016 release.

They have had very little to show for what should be a 30 plus hour game.

I will be disappointed if NieR Automata gets delayed too though. I need one of those RPGs in 2016.
 

Withnail

Member
It was a very weak year for Sony's first party. Did they have anything besides The Order 1866 and Until Dawn? Bloodborne was a third party exclusive

Jeez, not this again. It's a first party game by a third party developer. It's made with Sony money = first party. (Some people use the term second party to refer to this type of arrangement.)

A third party exclusive is something like Rise of the Tomb Raider or Nier Automata.
 
I hope Sony continue their strategy and do what the opposite of Microsoft do.

Which is release most of your games in the early part of the year rather than the stupid shit MS do so they can add a tag line to their commercials.

Realistically I know people are disappointed no exclusives during this period. But most games they would have released would have ended up dying in this period.

I feel console exclusives are better suited to the earlier part of the year where they can get more exposure.
 

OnADock

Banned
Jeez, not this again. It's a first party game by a third party developer. It's made with Sony money = first party. (Some people use the term second party to refer to this type of arrangement.)
I think the term "second party exclusive" is very imporntant here. It's an important because it seperates the game from Sony produced first party titles. Another bloodborne could not possibly be made properly without From and Miyazaki. Unless you think Sony could produce a decent Bloodborn 2 by themselves.
 

AmuroChan

Member
Considering the Killzone Team has been working on this ever since Shadow Fall released has me hoping a Fall 2016 happens.

The Shadowfall team isn't working on Horizon. Horizon has been in development since KZ3. Mathijs de Jonge's team is working on it.
 

Iced Arcade

Member
They took a page out of the 360's play book and put more focused on 3rd party marketing deals. which appears to have worked just like the 360's
 

TheYanger

Member
Everytime MS releases some ridiculous PR-statement about how everything they're doing is the greatest ever, people reply with "well, what are they supposed to say? It's just PR".

Well, something like this would be great.

Why would MS say soemthing like this? Their lineup killed it this year.
 
I think the term "second party exclusive" is very imporntant here. It's an important because it seperates the game from Sony produced first party titles. Another bloodborne could not possibly be made properly without From and Miyazaki. Unless you think Sony could produce a decent Bloodborn 2 by themselves.

You're saying two different things here.

The first is that it's "second party exclusive" and that that's very important because it separates it from "Sony produced first party titles." Why it's important to separate them, I have no idea because you never back that up. In reality, second party is a made up term and it really isn't important at all. Bloodborne is officially a first party game.

Your second thing is that Sony can't produce a good Bloodborne sequel without From and Miyazaki. That has nothing to do with it being first or second party, you could say the exact same thing about internal IPs like Uncharted.

Why would MS say soemthing like this? Their lineup killed it this year.

It did?
 

CamHostage

Member
It was lacking in 2013 (for PS4, that is. Though it was understandable).
It was lacking in 2014.
It was lacking in 2015.

2016 better be incredible.

It is crazy what we were prepared for in 2015 at PSX and E3, Sony seemed to have the killer library (and all these other games by the rest of their internal studios to follow them up in the years to come,) but then nearly everything stalled out. No Uncharted, no Ratchet, no Drawn to Death, no No Man's Sky, no Rime, no Tomorrow Children, no Silent Hills of course (*not all of those are 1st or 2nd party, and not all were officially scheduled for 2016, I'm just going by stuff at Sony's showcases that had us looking forward to 2015.) Until Dawn was a pleasant surprise and Bloodborne started things off right, but overall 2015 saw PS4 never getting that whole that the Uncharted delay left behind.

Things have GOT to pick up sometime. They've got so many danged studios, surely one of these years will see fruit on those branches. Not only all the games officially scheduled in 2016 or sometime in the future, but also Santa Monica has its project, Bend has its project, Sony Japan must have more than Gravity Rush 2 and Last Guardian since it's been rebuilding under Becker and is no longer giving time to portables anymore, and all this VR stuff that London and partner studios are experimenting with... It can't be lacking again, right?
 

Oersted

Member
You're saying two different things here.

The first is that it's "second party exclusive" and that that's very important because it separates it from "Sony produced first party titles." Why it's important to separate them, I have no idea because you never back that up. In reality, second party is a made up term and it really isn't important at all. Bloodborne is officially a first party game.

Your second thing is that Sony can't produce a good Bloodborne sequel without From and Miyazaki. That has nothing to do with it being first or second party, you could say the exact same thing about internal IPs like Uncharted.



It did?

When referring to first party titles most have of course have in mind games made by Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft for their own plattforms. But of course, how do you define a game like Smash Bros, which was mostly developed outside Nintendo or Bloodborne, developed by From and Sony? Shit is muddy. I for example would not count Street Fighter 5 or Bayonetta 2 as first parties, but they are exclusives to varying degrees and wouldn't be possible without the plattform holders.

We probably need more labels for all of these inbetween cases.
 
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