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Polygon: No Man's Sky- the developers built space probes to explore it for them
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BigTnaples
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This is amazing to me.
Pumped for this game.
Pumped for this game.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
What do you think fixed means and what were you wanting instead?
Icyflamez96
Member
Nah it would ruin a lot of the surprise and wonder.
Planets full of life are going to be pretty rare. Not as rare as in real life - but in like 10 hours of gameplay I'm going to assume you'll come across maybe one full on garden planet like in the reveal trailer. It's not like you are going to be seeing enough planets with "giraffes" to get burned out on giraffe variations.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Are they going to release those gifs?
Feel like they have to, otherwise why bother even announcing this?
Feel like they have to, otherwise why bother even announcing this?
Veritigo_X
Member
It was announced at GDC for a developer audience.
Can't imagine it would be fun to play through 10 hours and only encounter one garden planet.
Therefore, I can't see that happening.
Gameplay rather than realism innit.
This isn't an "announcement"? Nor is it new information.
PdotMichael
Banned
Maybe you should read the article and several posts in this thread again.
Icyflamez96
Member
Yeah I doubt it'll be THAT rare to come across.
I'd read up on the game more. They aren't following the 10 percent rule, but garden planets are going to be pretty rare. I can't remember exactly where that was discussed, maybe in one of the dev videos?
Handy Fake
Member
Like the GoogleMaps van. Get yourself photographed doing something silly.
jediyoshi
Member
They're not 'announcing' anything, it's literally a means of development for them so they're talking about it at a developer's conference.
Yeah, that might be a stretch but I agree with his point. With fleets and escort missions and space stations and asteroid fields there looks to be plenty of other things to do in between finding planets with life.
Here's the main video that covered a decent amount of this info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-kifCYToAU
There's also an extended one from about the same time here, but I cannot remember if it includes all of the stuff from the video above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4zKTNLz0kQ
Veritigo_X
Member
I've done all that and still don't know what you're getting at.
What do you mean by "fixed universe"? It's a simple question that you're refusing to answer for some reason.
schaft0620
Member
Good lord will this game PLEASE get a release date.
Yeah, I remember when Sean said he'd be terribly disappointed if it wasn't out around e3... I don't think that's happening
If a game is not ready to show in a playable form, then don't hype people for something we can't verify to be true. Id figure that in 2015 developers would learn to not overhype their game without backing it up by letting people play it.
Pestilence11
Member
Maybe a probe will tell me what I'm supposed to do.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
LOL and here I was trying to be nice and give you an opportunity to clarify what you mean.
There will be more planets with LIFE than that. Just not fully developed garden planets like in the reveal trailer.
PdotMichael
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IceDoesntHelp
Banned
When will we get a release date?
Even if it was something as simple as saying we are aiming for Q3 of 2015 would be acceptable, I don't need a solid date, just an idea of a date.
Even if it was something as simple as saying we are aiming for Q3 of 2015 would be acceptable, I don't need a solid date, just an idea of a date.
ThatStupidLion
Member
tired of reading about how "big" and procedural this game is.
just show it off and discuss at E3
just show it off and discuss at E3
Veritigo_X
Member
Tweak the algorithm that creates the planets, not individual planets. The way the game is designed makes it impossible to go in an tweak individual things like you are suggesting.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
The developers made a huge mistake hyping this game. I guarantee it will not live up to any of the shit you're imagining in your head right now.
You are embarrassing yourself.
They are tweaking the algorithms, not billions of fucking planets.
True, I didn't think it was all or nothing. There will be degrees of life, some complex, some more simple, and varying amounts depending on the planet. The type of planet and it's resources also drive the type and differences of a planet's particular flora and fauna.
I know Hello Games is purposefully holding back so their is truly a sense of wonder and exploration but I'm still anxious to see the game and get some semblance of a release date.
Seriously. After the order, halo, drive club, assassins creed unity, etc., I figured people would stop listening to anything developers/publishers said about their game until there was a playable version or user impression.
This has to do with launch versions of the games. I understand drive club is fixed now.
Pestilence11
Member
I think it would be cool if they included some Easter egg type stuff that people couldn't really direct others to find. Or maybe directing would be fine because it would take forever to travel to anyways.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/1/5856718/no-mans-sky-preview
Again, I think Sean Murray specifically stated that they had tweaked the percentages to be more game-friendly... but the goal is to make garden planets be something super impactful. They won't be super impactful if you come across one every few hours.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
So you are against them trying to make sure the procedural generation doesn't result into to many samey planets, creatures and such? It sounds like they have an algorithm that they are constantly tweaking based on these probes and once they have a final algorithm then the will seed actual universe and hit go.
It sounds like you want them to take Billions of years expanding universe and evolution and replicate it in the game.
They've been emphasizing the scale of the game, and they've successfully demonstrated in their presentations that yes, it's a really big game. I don't think they've made any grand promises beyond that. They certainly haven't been making any Molyneux-esque promises about anything, and they've been backing up what they've set out to do.
If there's an article suggesting that each planet looks like its own unique version of a Yes album cover, then have at it.
Handy Fake
Member
Haunted
Member
I love shit like this.
Awe-inspiring stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Well, this one is based on a GDC talk, so there's an actual reason for its existence.
But yeah, No Man's Sky is the kind of game that inspires people, that spurs the imagination and makes people want to write about it.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I was just thinking, doesn't this take place in a single galaxy? (Of course if my is wrong I am totally off base lol but anyways...)
If so, then I am thinking they made a mistake. For example. The Milky Way has about 100 billion stars, lets assume that each and everyone of them has 10 planets. That's "only" 1 trillion (1^12) planets, no where near the 18 quintillion (18*1^18) in this game.
Sure, there are lots of much much large galaxies but I doubt that they are on the size required but I could be wrong. If there really was a galaxy that was that densely populated it would have destroyed itself long ago wouldn't it have?
If so, then I am thinking they made a mistake. For example. The Milky Way has about 100 billion stars, lets assume that each and everyone of them has 10 planets. That's "only" 1 trillion (1^12) planets, no where near the 18 quintillion (18*1^18) in this game.
Sure, there are lots of much much large galaxies but I doubt that they are on the size required but I could be wrong. If there really was a galaxy that was that densely populated it would have destroyed itself long ago wouldn't it have?
PdotMichael
Banned
"sounds like" it's not what is stated in the article. They are manually fixing (tweaking) planets and areas if the results aren't like that what they want.
Please don't come into a thread about one topic and ask for it to be about another topic.
Veritigo_X
Member
You're ignoring every other post telling you this isn't the case.
Haunted
Member
I just saw the model and movie linked to from the Hello Games' website.
It doesn't surprise me at all that the game appeals to the creative sorts out there and has already inspired this kind of stuff even though the game's not out yet. Cool stuff!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cauh5ArdIoM
It doesn't surprise me at all that the game appeals to the creative sorts out there and has already inspired this kind of stuff even though the game's not out yet. Cool stuff!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cauh5ArdIoM
Are you just completely abandoning logic?
Tell us all, how are they supposed to tweak billions, trillions of planets? Do you have a notion of the human resources it would take to do that?
Suppose that it only takes one second to "tweak" each planet, and that the game has only 1 trillion planets.
It would then take 31,688 man-years to tweak every planet. Which means that, if all of the game industry got together to work on this game and it only took each person ONE SECOND to tweak each planet, it would still take a year to finish the game. Working 24/7.
What sounds exaggerated?
Yep. It's just a way to sample from their random generator.
Palette Swap
Member
LOL, it's pretty obvious they're using that probe to sample a number of planets, check they aren't too repetitive and tweak the generation procedure accordingly.
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