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PR: COLECO to release Chameleon, console that focuses on new cartridge games

Even a Saturn is better than a Jaguar. At least the Saturn has lewd games for it.

I own an original Jaguar. Bought it for $180 with Tempest 2K and an extra controller back in the day.

I can't really recommend the system to most retro gamers at all. It has really nice RGB output, that's about it. It perplexes me how hot of an item it has become, and that the homebrew scene is so active for it.

Anyhow, I highly recommend a PSTV with TxK to anybody thinking about buying a Jag for Tempest 2K. TxK is fantastic and serves as a better looking, smoother substitute that looks amazing on modern display devices and is of course written by the same developer. And you can get a PSTV and TxK for under $40 ($60 with controller), easily.

Regarding the RetroPi, it's hard for me to get too excited over very mediocre emulation and high latency. But if that's what you want, just check Craigslist. Easy to buy these for like $150 here, with controller, PSU, and HDMI cable.

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Umm... wut? $150 for a Pi setup?? I don't even own a Pi but I know $150 is a complete ripoff for a $35 micro computer running free software. Even the SNES30 is only about $30 on top of that.

Also I haven't heard complaints about major latency problems on Pi based setups, you might be thinking of Android boxes which are notorious for that.

And what do you mean PSU? You can just use the micro USB port. You know, the port that is labeled "PWR IN" ??

I'm sorry to say this but your post reeks of misinformation.
 
Umm... wut? $150 for a Pi setup?? I don't even own a Pi but I know $150 is a complete ripoff for a $35 micro computer running free software. Even the SNES30 is only about $30 on top of that.

Also I haven't heard complaints about major latency problems on Pi based setups, you might be thinking of Android boxes which are notorious for that.

And what do you mean PSU? You can just use the micro USB port. You know, the port that is labeled "PWR IN" ??

I'm sorry to say this but your post reeks of misinformation.

I'm not advocating it, Pi is a shit retro gaming platform to me. I would never, ever own one.

The point is people are advocating $150 Pi based turnkey systems in a Jag shell. My response is why wait? If you want to buy a turnkey system you can do it now. Obviously if you want to make your own you can as well.

Stop being so rude.
 
If you use some other USB device as opposed to a psu, the Pi may not get enough power to perform certain tasks. A dedicated psu is recommended but not absolutely necessary.
 

btrboyev

Member
I'm not advocating it, Pi is a shit retro gaming platform to me. I would never, ever own one.

The point is people are advocating $150 Pi based turnkey systems in a Jag shell. My response is why wait? If you want to buy a turnkey system you can do it now. Obviously if you want to make your own you can as well.

Stop being so rude.

Why is the Pi a shit retro platform again? Because it's just doing emulation? What else is it supposed to do?
 

Fnord

Member
I own an original Jaguar. Bought it for $180 with Tempest 2K and an extra controller back in the day.

I can't really recommend the system to most retro gamers at all. It has really nice RGB output, that's about it. It perplexes me how hot of an item it has become, and that the homebrew scene is so active for it.

Wait,,, the Jaguar has become a "hot" item? As in there's a market for old Jaguars? If that's the case, I should probably sell mine (complete with toilet bowl CD-ROM drive).
 
Umm... wut? $150 for a Pi setup?? I don't even own a Pi but I know $150 is a complete ripoff for a $35 micro computer running free software. Even the SNES30 is only about $30 on top of that.

Also I haven't heard complaints about major latency problems on Pi based setups, you might be thinking of Android boxes which are notorious for that.

And what do you mean PSU? You can just use the micro USB port. You know, the port that is labeled "PWR IN" ??

I'm sorry to say this but your post reeks of misinformation.
Android as an OS has notoriously poor audio lag. Getting in sync with video and input can lead to terrible delays.
 

Gruso

Member
I don't even own a Pi
This is clear.

The Pi is a $35 motherboard. Add everything you need to make it functional (SD card, cables & peripherals, case, and yes a PSU is often needed) and the cost can easily blow out to three figures. If someone is selling pre-configured RetroPis like the one pictured, they also need to factor in their time and a bit of profit margin.

Calling out Beer Monkey like that was unnecessary. There was nothing wrong with his post.
 
There was nothing wrong with his post.

What was wrong with mine?

You're reading into his post (up the point where you're even factoring in "profit margin" to inflate the total cost) but completely ignoring the information I provided. I'm sure if we consulted a Pi community they wouldn't quote $150 for a RetroPi setup.

There are untold ways to get screwed over in the gaming community, so why would anyone choose give this as consumer advice here? You're also ignoring that he himself is calling out the Pi community by giving this inflated cost and claiming "very mediocre emulation and high latency."
 

Gruso

Member
What was wrong with mine?

You're reading into his post (up the point where you're even factoring in "profit margin" to inflate the total cost) but completely ignoring the information I provided. I'm sure if we consulted a Pi community they wouldn't quote $150 for a RetroPi setup.

There are untold ways to get screwed over in the gaming community, so why would anyone choose give this as consumer advice here? You're also ignoring that he himself is calling out the Pi community by giving this inflated cost and claiming "very mediocre emulation and high latency."
My problem with your post is that he provided accurate information (note: I didn't say great product recommendation, I said accurate information) and you accused him of spreading misinformation, based on your zero experience of owning a Pi.
 
You're also ignoring that he himself is calling out the Pi community by giving this inflated cost and claiming "very mediocre emulation and high latency."

I have plenty of respect for the Pi community, but even the version 3 device isn't capable of properly running the more cycle-accurate emulators like BSNES. That's just a fact. Likewise the HDMI display devices these days that can best simulate CRT (late model plasmas and OLED screens, given proper filters and scanlines) have high latency.

I'm in the midst of building a SFF factor PC for emulation with analog RGB output to drive a BDM CRT, myself. That stomps a Pi

Though that box is just to hold me over until the FPGA revolution really does come (It won't be $150, ha). Cycle accurate multiplatform solutions are really going to happen.

There was no misinformation in my post. You were rude and wrong.
 

Khaz

Member
I'm in the midst of building a SFF factor PC for emulation with analog RGB output to drive a BDM CRT, myself. That stomps a Pi

You're comparing apples and oranges here, there is nothing wrong with people wanting to build a cheap emulation box to play their games. You can't expect everybody to care as much as you do. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

The thread reeks of negativity all around. Is it the ghost of Mike Kennedy? I would suggest to lock this thread and everybody go back to their favourite communities. We're pretty friendly in
Upscalers, CRTs, PVMs & RGB: Retro gaming done right!
Retro-GAF unite!
Raspberry Pi Gaming thread - DIY Retro Gaming for the price of a meal
and all the dedicated console threads.

Peace.
 

Krejlooc

Banned
Wait,,, the Jaguar has become a "hot" item? As in there's a market for old Jaguars? If that's the case, I should probably sell mine (complete with toilet bowl CD-ROM drive).

Your Jag + CD is worth quite a bit to the right collectors, particularly if you still have the boxes.
 
Did you at least try the lan mode in Battlesphere?

Yes, at a couple of meets back around 2000. Great stuff given the limitations of the platform. I'd love to see an update with modern hardware, analog control, internet play. Star Raiders was my favorite game in the 80s so getting Battlesphere at launch was a no-brainer.
 
Mike Kennedy has finally come out of hiding and posted his right now on the AtariAge thread:

Hello Everyone,

I hate to light this thread up any more but at this time I have made the decision that my reputation is worth protecting and wanted to come in here and break my silence and fill in some holes and answer some questions about the hardware “team” (term used loosely) behind the Coleco Chameleon.
This long winded response will explain:
There were only (4) engineers (or people) EVER working on this project with Steve Woita and myself ( and in the beginning there were two working together) despite what Scott Schreiber has been spewing. And none were EVER working simultaneously on the project. And Scott had nothing to do with much of anything and was never considered to be “working” on this project. Has he ever produced and shown anything he was working on? Nope!
It will for the first time reveal who the hardware person was that took over after the “John Carlsen” era. And it will show that I paid him considerable amounts of money for what was essentially two fake prototypes. One that I saw (Toy Fair unit) and one that I never saw in person (clear PC card unit). I was not building that crap in my garage.
It will also reveal the shady background of said hardware person so that he can be stopped and hopefully save anyone here from dealing with this guy in the future.
And as a side note, Carl Williams IS NOT taking over RETRO Magazine nor has he ever talked with me about it. And I am not selling it or giving it to ANYONE! Carl? Explanation?
To understand how this ended, I want to direct your attention back to the early times of this venture, early to middle 2014. At this time, my first choice to design the system, Curt Vendel (who Scott Schreiber helped introduce me to thus ending his minimal involvement in the venture) decided he wouldn’t have the time to devote to this venture and opted out soon and never got started. At this time I researched others that could step in and bring this product to fruition and that lead me to Clay Cowgill. Clay really took this project under his wing from Nov 2014 to January 2015 and helped us (me and Steve Woita) define the hardware and its capabilities – this is when we were considering, at Clay’s recommendation, architecting something in-line with the Beaglebone Black.

It was also at this time, that another person entered into the mix, Sean “LEE” Robinson. Sean was a “acquaintance or colleague” of Clay’s and it just so happened that he had moved from Washington (state) back to Southern California. He had heard that I was working with Clay on this project and offered to help. Since he and Clay were colleagues, and the fact he was local and very close to me, it seemed like a good idea to have them partner up on the project, which they did to some extent. Supposedly, Sean had a working prototype ( that I NEVER saw) playing Neo Geo games in Jan 2015. This prototype was later used again when he rejoined the project explaining how we supposedly had a prototype so fast AFTER Carlsen left. Read further . . . . .

In late January 2015, Clay alerted us that he was contracted by SONY and that he would be leaving the project. At this time, Sean also decided to leave as well. Enter in the John Carlsen/Steve Woita FPGA “era”. Now I am not going to go into this part of the timeline because we know how all this worked out. Fast forward to John Carlsen leaving the failed RETRO VGS project.

At the time of John’s leaving in September 2015, Sean “LEE” Robinson re-entered the picture and reached out to Steve and I. He indicated he wanted to help us get this project back on track, but his condition was that he remained “behind the curtain” (his words) due to the mess he was inheriting from Carlsen. At this time I agreed to that condition and also agreed to let him and Steve work together on this without my interference. While I thought I had a competent hardware “team” working on this, and was being told early on by Sean we had games running on our hardware/software prototype and that our costs had dropped considerably, I felt confident to go ahead and continue building this venture, bringing a “go-to-market” team together and making the decision to launch this under the Coleco brand. Things seemed to be coming together. Chris from Coleco invited us to demonstrate a prototype at Toy Fair. This did pose a challenge to Sean as it expedited the process a bit to try and make the show deadline.

This is where things started to take a big bad turn. In mid-January, I had a lunch meeting with Sean and point blank asked him what he needs from me to spend the next 30 days working on the prototype full-time to get it prepared for the Toy Fair. We agreed on $4,000, which I quickly got to him via a check that he cashed with me at my bank. It was then a day before I was traveling to the show that he came over to my house with the Toy Fair “Prototype”, with his instructions to NOT SHOW the back of the unit no matter what. But without any specific information as to why I shouldn’t show it, other than it used an aftermarket connector that was composite-out and that was used because he didn’t have the HD stable enough to get us through the show. I believed him and went to the show with that unit. My biggest concern at the time was getting this conglomeration through the TSA and on the plane.

During the show we were accused of not having that system even plugged in so I made the decision to take a photo of the back of the unit showing it was clearly plugged in. If that was true about using the composite connector, I really felt people would understand why it was used and decided to show the pics. I didn’t feel we had anything to hide. Then all hell broke loose and it was identified that SNES mini parts or the whole PCB from an SNES mini was inside the console shell. I was left in a terrible spot at this point and I had a decision to make that evening at the hotel. Do I take this thing apart and see what was in it and quit the show or continue on with the show, demoing the games that were going to be on the system, and then address this issue with Sean when we got back from New York. Right or wrong, I continued on with Toy Fair and it continued to impress people and the games were very favorably liked (Thanks Eli! For stepping in with his SNES multicart in place of Sean’s glitching out SD card driven demo cartridge). When I returned back home, I met Sean again and gave him the “prototype” back and he was still swearing that despite the SNES “parts” he used, the games were still running on the SNES FPGA software that he had constructed in a few short months. Again, I believed him and we moved forward. And he told me that during the Toy Fair he was preparing the next “prototype” board so I gave him the clear shells with explicit instructions from me to show “our” PCB inside the shell. This was going to be used to show the “real” prototype.

Then in a move to extract more money from me he indicated that for $3,000 paid now (2/29/16), and $3,000 paid in 60 days he could wrap this up and have a production ready prototype completed. So, again, I wrote him out a check he promptly cashed with me at my bank. Soon after this he emailed me the images of the clear unit with the PC DVR capture card in it. But, when he first emailed me the images, he indicated this was our prototype 100%. I made a comment that it looked great (in the photos) and he responded by saying something like “this is what we can do when given the proper time.” Keep in mind, these pictures were to combat the criticism of the “fake” Toy Fair prototype and were given to me by him to post on Facebook to show people the real “prototype”. Sean even joked about how people online were trying to identify the board in our shell, laughing and telling me they won’t find it because it’s our original work. He even made these comments through my car Blue Tooth speaker with my wife in the car and she heard everything. Again, I believed him.

Let’s discuss the Kickstarter for a moment. So, believing I was going to have a working prototype for Toy Fair, I told Sean and Steve I was going to move forward with the Kickstarter campaign and use Toy Fair as a launching point for the campaign. A date was set. Now to Sean’s credit, he played that this was not a good idea and didn’t agree with me scheduling the Kickstarter to begin during the campaign was a good idea. But, at this point, I thought I had a real prototype playing games and was assured by Sean many times that our costs were now hovering around $100, so figured, let’s not wait any longer. After it was learned that we essentially had a SNES duck taped in my console shell I decided to delay the Kickstarter because it was always my intention to show off the prototype completely in the campaign video, open it up and show it running and playing games from at least two different systems. Then once I saw the clear unit was also a “fake” I made the decision to withdraw from a Kickstarter campaign altogether and reevaluate this venture.
Back to the clear shell prototype. Since this all fell apart I have been trying to get Sean to explain to me why he would point blank lie to my face about that being “our board” and passing that two-bit PC board off as our prototype and he can’t give me an explanation that makes any sense, in fact I get no explanation other than that there was more going on in there than people can see. He mentioned we had chips located underneath the board even and assured me that the cartridge was also plugged into our cartridge connector. Something was just not adding up to me and I continued to lose sleep at night wondering how this all could have happened. First, he never showed me anything in person, that he was working on. I never went to his house, nor was ever given an address where he lives or works. He subscribes to my magazine so I looked at the address the magazine is sent to – a UPS store PO Box. I have paid this guy $7,000 and have nothing to show for it. Oh, I also bought two FPGA cores from a “friend” of his (whom I never met in person) whose wife was having medical issues and needed to sell some things and just so happened his friend had made an Intellivision and Amiga FPGA core. Sean told me his friend would sell them to me for $2,500 which I, again agreed to, and wrote Sean out another check which he promptly cashed at my bank and was going to give the cash to his “friend”. Did I ever get any software cores? NOPE! So, in total, with a couple other smaller checks I wrote to him, paid him nearly $10K in January and February 2016. Nothing to show for it except two fake prototypes and NO FPGA CORES! And, he swindled out my Crystal Castles Commodore 64 prototype cartridge as part of a payment as well!!!!!!!

So, trying to make more sense of all this, I started Googling Sean and this is where things get super crazy. I will just post the links that are online for all to see and you can all take it from there. There is even more stuff you can uncover if you want to all look:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.games.video.arcade/bs4zJtfa4oY
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.video.arcade/almightyarcade
http://www.megalextoria.com/forum2/index.php?t=msg&goto=297838&
http://compgroups.net/comp.sys.cbm/sean-robinson-founder-of-commodorecomputerclub.c/3039131

In addition, I have confirmed with the Riverside County (CA) Assistant DA, Sean was charged a few years ago for 7 counts of Felony Grand-Theft and served part of a one-year sentence in jail and then got out on probation which he evidently complied with and then he made a plea to have the prior conviction AND his admittance of guilt overturned. A loophole that the DA mentioned drives prosecutors crazy.

At this point I can only hope to recover any of my money paid to him, and can no longer live by my word to keep him “behind the curtain” while his deceit led to my defamation of character and demise of the company and opportunity and also I feel I was intentionally setup to take a fall. Because why else would he give me the clear shell “prototype” photos to hang myself? Seems strange as we both knew these photos would be scrutinized like crazy based on the last “fake” SNES prototype he gave me.

I also hope that you will also wonder why I would go to all this trouble surrounding this venture with guys like Ben Herman (he was a Rockstar at Toy Fair, and had tons of legit retailer interest in this thing) and Phil Adam, Paul Wylie and eventually Steven Rosenbaum. Why would I go out and bring Coleco on board as a licensing partner? All done and then just try and pass off fake prototypes? This is just something that I would not intentionally or knowingly do. I have way more integrity and respect for this hobby to pull that shit. I did remain silent the past few weeks though while I put the pieces of this train wreck together and worked with my attorney to define my moves. And I apologize for the delay. Timed with the release of this statement here on AtariAge I have also emailed Sean a demand letter asking him to make arrangements to pay me back the money he scammed from me as well as a heads up I am going public with his participation in this deceit. But at the same time, I wonder who he might have to take advantage of to get the money to pay me back. That is the shitty part. And I am still working with my attorney and local authorities to find out what my options are.

I want to apologize to all of you for the past few months. The John Carlsen era was an honest to goodness list of I mistakes. But there was never any intention to deceive or pull the wool over any of your eyes. These past few months with these fake prototypes was inexcusable and I hope you can all understand a bit more about how this all happened and why I have remained silent the past few weeks. It is not in my nature to trick people into anything. My end game has always been to give back to this hobby that I love and respect and to make and do things that people will enjoy. I’ve never taken one penny from anyone that wasn’t genuinely earned!

You will all be glad to hear that I am officially tabling the console venture for good. I have negotiated with Albert (AtariAge) to take over the Jaguar tooling so we can all be assured it’s in good hands and won’t get destroyed or lost to time. And I am sure Albert will do some very cool things with the console and cartridge shells.

I want to ask you all for some level of forgiveness and I hope you all understand that I would have never gone to Kickstarter with a blatant rip-off of a prototype. That was never my intention. And please, don’t let this mess carry over to the magazine. I have a great team of people working on it. We are pouring a lot of heart and soul and sweat equity into keeping the magazine going and it’s only getting better.

And, I want to thank those on AtariAge (and other public forums) for opening my eyes to the craziness of all this happening right under my eyes. The fact that Sean indicated he wrote this SNES FPGA software in such a short time was questioned here and that opened my eyes. Of course, the uncovering of the fake prototypes has opened my eyes. You guys really go above and beyond to protect the hobby and it wasn’t until I have had the time to reflect back on this fiasco that I saw how you all came together and your alerts spread like wildfire across the internet. Again it was never the intention of myself or those legitimate guys on my team to deceive or potentially defraud anyone. In the end, I am the only one that has lost anything, money, potential opportunity and my reputation in this hobby.
Mike

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/page-315#entry3484040
 

Glowsquid

Member
I'm lost. So to save face is he saying he's super-incompentent and that he didn't vet his main hardware engineer at all and continued to give him big bucks despite producing no working hardware for an extended period of time?????????

And, I want to thank those on AtariAge (and other public forums) for opening my eyes to the craziness of all this happening right under my eyes. The fact that Sean indicated he wrote this SNES FPGA software in such a short time was questioned here and that opened my eyes. Of course, the uncovering of the fake prototypes has opened my eyes.

Then why did you censor the facebook page until the bitter end-my brain hurt.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Huh. Incompetence over indecency. Interesting take.
 

theRizzle

Member
tl;dr Mike Kennedy has no idea what he is doing, doesn't bother to do even the bare minimum of due diligence on the people or project that he is entering into and sees himself as a victim.

what did I just read
 

Flink

Member
So he does some Google searches on the dude AFTER handing him thousands of dollars.

Makes sense. Story checks out.
 

LewieP

Member
tl;dr Mike Kennedy has no idea what he is doing, doesn't bother to do even the bare minimum of due diligence on the people or project that he is entering into and sees himself as a victim.

what did I just read
Yep. Far from exonerating him, that post just proves he was utterly clueless in what he was doing and saying all along, and that he repeatedly made promises that he was incapable of understanding, never mind delivering on.
 
He is so full of shit it's coming out his ears. And to think it took him a month to make up that story. If this thing had actually been funded, imagine what he would be telling his backers!

You are not a victim when you go into hiding for a month while everyone else who involved themselves with you takes the heat.
 

ultrazilla

Member
Sorry Mike.

You're a grown man and should have stayed on top of things much better then merely writing checks and taking "their word" on helping you out with the system.

You clearly had NO IDEA what it took to get a company up and running with reliable, trustworthy people that you could KEEP IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH instead of blindly writing thousands of dollars in checks and hoping for the best.

I can't help but think that you knew in your heart things were very wrong from the get go. However, you were so blinded by the excitement of getting this campaign out the door that you were basically willing to go down with the ship.

As a matter of fact, your explanation above sounds exactly like something you would have wrote after a successful indiegogo campaign that failed to deliver the goods.

I'm pissed because I really wanted to see a system like this. I ended up just going out and buying a Retron 5 and being done with worrying about who's going to produce what or the teasing of pet projects they've been dabbling in for years.

You're either being dishonest or your kindness was taken as weakness and you were played like a fool. I tend to think you were too kind and looking at this with rose tinted glasses.

I do give you credit for coming forward and finally addressing this situation.

Good luck on trying to recover your money-I'm glad it was your money and not ours.
 

Chuck

Still without luck
I feel kind of bad for Mike because his incompetency is so harmful to himself. If what he claims is true, I sure hope he has it in writing.
 

tebunker

Banned
I try to never assume malice when ignorance will duly suffice.

He is probably as naive as he seems, you guys don't get it, people get roped every day and usually for worse. A county controller in my home town was roped by a Nigerian email scheme for a huge chunk of the county's pension. Good people can be really dumb more often than you realize.

Second, he's even stupider for playing the I got duped card like it excuses everything.

Frankly, a simple," I got duped, I didn't a good job managing this, I messed up a lot in the community and I am sorry." Then a note on the end, if you want more details about how I was duped read .....
 
Mike is a very trusting person. When I've sold him games, he always gave me a fair price. I see him usually twice a year at events and he's one of the fairest guys I've met. I've said that time and time again. This behavior never made sense from him. He's never ripped me or anyone off in the years I've known him. I sat nearby and eavesdropped while he and Keith Robinson of Intellivision talked about their Kickstarter plans and how to get their products funded early last year. Nothing was out of the ordinary.

If he promised to keep Sean behind the curtain, that's exactly what he did, holding up his end of the bargain to the point of stupidity. He's a fanatic that gets very excited about video games and it's quite easy for him to get caught up in the moment and believe someone, especially after they seem to have credentials AND you've already given them money.

Going into silence after this makes sense if he's going the legal route. It's the same reason that Jim Sterling isn't mocking Digital Homicide right now while he works it out with his lawyers and figures out what he can and can't say.

In terms of censoring comments, you'd do the same thing if you believed you had a real prototype and people were mocking you otherwise. Imagine the full time job SeaWorld has deleting Facebook posts that would shit up their wall.

He was never the engineer behind it, just the face and investor.

Should he have shut this shit down earlier? Fucking hell, yes. Did he ever take anybody's money? Ultimately, no. The IndieGogo and Kickstarters never got off the ground.

More than anything else, I'd like more of an explanation about his behavior shooting the promotional commercial that never happened.
 
I try to never assume malice when ignorance will duly suffice.

He is probably as naive as he seems, you guys don't get it, people get roped every day and usually for worse

And that's exactly how he hoped to fund his campaign.

The funniest part (and most damning) is that his whole mind revolves around scamming.

He said:
But at the same time, I wonder who he might have to take advantage of to get the money to pay me back.

What? So Mike hired a guy who scams 24/7?? How does that guy make a living? Does he twirl his evil mustache all day?!

Mike's mind operates like this now: need money? Then it's time to scam.

He's now projecting his own thought process onto his "engineer." His sob story is all bullshit but amusing as hell.
 

LewieP

Member
I try to never assume malice when ignorance will duly suffice.

He is probably as naive as he seems, you guys don't get it, people get roped every day and usually for worse. A county controller in my home town was roped by a Nigerian email scheme for a huge chunk of the county's pension. Good people can be really dumb more often than you realize.

Second, he's even stupider for playing the I got duped card like it excuses everything.

Frankly, a simple," I got duped, I didn't a good job managing this, I messed up a lot in the community and I am sorry." Then a note on the end, if you want more details about how I was duped read .....

Worth noting that it was his intention to take $2 million of customer's money back when he launched the indiegogo campaign. Looking back at the page now, it was full of untruths that the most generous explanation for is that he didn't verify anything before repeating it to paying customers.
 

Mega

Banned
Not buying any of this. Mike's rep is in tatters so he took a month to concoct a bullshit convoluted story that he wasn't the scammer but was actually the one being scammed. And he attempts to give it validity by seeking out an apparently real but little known scammer. I bet he even reached out to the guy and offerend to pay him some cash to go along with the story, say his nickname really is "LEE" (originally a fake person). Basically a hired patsy to just BS along in case a resourceful Atari Ager manages to get in touch with him.

There are too many people attached to this with concrete proof that Mike was being shady and making scummy moves behind the scenes. Look at the guy who was going to do the Chameleon promo videos for example. That was extremely damning. The entire series of events simply doesn't mesh with this poor, innocent, naive, hoodwinked Mike Kennedy story.
 
Do we know for a fact that this Sean guy was involved with the project prior to this? Because it really doesn't cost Mike anything to look up some known scammer on Google and blame him for everything after the fact.

There's simply no chance that he gets a venture off the ground and then proceeds to not vet the guy at all. How is it that he realizes that he doesn't even know his address until after he gave him thousands of dollars? If Sean's is Clay's acquaintance, where is Clay in all of this? Because according to this story it was Clay who knew him, but how does Clay know someone who is apparently so unscrupulous and runs shitty scams for a living? And how is this someone that Clay can actually recommend for this project?

And how is it that Mike didn't think of even Googling this Sean guy until this whole thing went down?
 
Honestly, I feel for Mike. He seems like a guy who loves gaming but doesn't really understand the tech behind it. I don't believe he even I tended to trick people, but he didn't have the understanding of what it would take to create a new platform.
 
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