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[benicillin]

I don't forsee myself buying a Freesync compatible TV or monitor for a few years since I just bought a KS8000. Cool feature though.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

I just bought a 144hz monitor with FreeSync, this certainly has my attention. Really happy to see a console manufacturer paying attention to this. Now give me my FreeSync enabled low input lag 4K OLED TV, please.

 

[onQ123]

This is big news

 

[nubbe]

The second cumming

 

[digitalrelic]

Holy shit! Yeah, this is big news. More than anything I'm excited about what it means for future consoles & televisions.

 

[Crazymoogle]

are TV's going to get support for this?

You need a TV supporting HDMI 2.1 (which includes Game Mode VRR), so 2018 is when to expect the first crop. In theory some existing TVs could be updated via firmware for some HDMI 2.1 features but I would chalk that up to wishful thinking. A "gamer" TV would be a great idea but nobody seems interested in marketing that yet.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Are there any TV's out there that support this?

 

[Vincent Alexander]

All right, Microsoft...I'm listening. I'm getting lubed up for E3---all I need are some games, the main holdup with Xbox One. Don't let me down. My body is ready.

 

[Samurai G0SU]

There we go! The whole story now. Pretty awesome, right?

That is awesome. So, no more news about scorpio? is this the last punch in the combo?

 

[sangreal]

Are there any TV's out there that support this?

Not yet, but it is coming w/ HDMI 2.1

 

[TakeItSlowDude]

Needed confirmation on HDMI specs, is all, but now everything is clear.

Can you say if the Scorpio is able to do the full 48Gbps of HDMI 2.1 or does the spec allow lower bandwidth as long as the HDMI switch is feature complete?

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

You need a TV supporting HDMI 2.1 (which includes Game Mode VRR), so 2018 is when to expect the first crop. In theory some existing TVs could be updated via firmware for some HDMI 2.1 features but I would chalk that up to wishful thinking. A "gamer" TV would be a great idea but nobody seems interested in marketing that yet.

Basically this. It's not going to be a very common occurrence on TVs, at least possibly, not for a good while. So if you wanted a more guaranteed way to take advantage of FreeSync, it's best to play on a PC monitor that has it.

 

[dancrane212]

And on top of that, it works across all Xbox content that runs on the new console - Xbox 360 back-compat titles and Xbox One games.

Wonderful.

 

[Havik]

whats the biggest monitor that currently supports freesync?

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Are there any TV's out there that support this?

TV's will probably adopt this by end of year or next year sets. Tho, I'm thinking the latter since most tv lineups were revealed during CES earlier this year (this was also when HDMI 2.1 spec was revealed).

So I think, people who game on monitors will reap the benefits first and people who purchase TVs next year will be set.

Not sure if any upcoming 2017 TV's will be able to have it upgraded via a firmware update.

 

[mdzapeer]

THIS is what I expected from a PS4 Pro, if Scorpio adds greater than 60 hz supports...GG.

 

[madjoki]

Hopefully this means Nvidia is forced to support Freesync too by TV/monitor manufactures choosing freesync over Gsync.

 

[dark10x]

Can you say if the Scorpio is able to do the full 48Gbps of HDMI 2.1 or does the spec allow lower bandwidth as long as the HDMI switch is feature complete?

Ah, that's a good question. I'll ask about it as I'm not certain myself.

 

[derFeef]

whats the biggest monitor that currently supports freesync?

Maybe one of those?
http://aoc-europe.com/en/products/ag352qcx

 

[Zombie James]

This is the biggest Scorpio news so far. Bring on HDMI 2.1 TVs.

 

[Hoo-doo]

TV's will probably adopt this by end of year or next year sets. Tho, I'm thinking the latter since most tv lineups were revealed during CES earlier this year (this was also when HDMI 2.1 spec was revealed).

So I think, people who game on monitors will reap the benefits first and people who purchase TVs next year will be set.

Not sure if any upcoming 2017 TV's will be able to have it upgraded via a firmware update.

Yeah, that's what I thought. HDMI 2.1 in TV's likely won't be a thing until 2018 at the earliest.

And I don't think there's a huge audience out there with 4K + Freesync monitors that don't use it for a proper PC.
Still, it's good to see them futureproof this thing.

Maybe one of those?
http://aoc-europe.com/en/products/ag352qcx

That's a 2560x1080 display though. I don't think the Scorpio will be able to support that resolution properly, but I might be wrong.

Worst case, you end up with black bars on the side and a 1920x1080p image.

 

[Okami Haundo]

Well this is definitely interesting! I'm glad to see that DF still has information to dole out, and this will make put me back to the drawing board in terms of what my next TV will be. I've got a good two to three years left before I plan to upgrade, so I'm hoping this is fairly widespread by then.

Scorpio looks better every gosh darn day,.

 

[McHuj]

THIS is what I expected from a PS4 Pro, if Scorpio adds greater than 60 hz supports...GG.

Me too. I thought Sony would try this and announce TV's that support this as well.

 

[boneyjangles]

Must be one of the first HDMI 2.1 devices then? 4K 120hz output an option if the game chosoes to offer it?

 

[op_ivy]

4k gaming monitor it is then

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Scorpio will be mine.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Very cool. A Freesync2/VRR over HDMI 4K HDR television is now in my future. Wish it was this year, though.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

This complicates my TV purchasing decisions. Probably won't be anything with 2.1 available until next year.

 

[Ushay]

Wow was not expecting this, could have sworn some posters here said it had Hdmi 2.0, also freesync sounds amazing!

My TV would be a KS8000, does it support this?

 

[membran]

This is very good news indeed. When are HDMI 2.1 TVs expected to drop?

 

[supernormal]

Game Changer.

 

[2blackcats]

That's what I was thinking, which means I'll probably wait til the year after.

 

[sangreal]

Wow was not expecting this, could have sworn some posters here said it had Hdmi 2.0, also freesync sounds amazing!

I'm fairly certain the original eurogamer article said HDMI 2.0

I guess because 2.1 isn't ratified yet or because it doesn't support all 2.1 features

 

[HeliosT10]

There we go! The whole story now. Pretty awesome, right?

Dark10x and Rich with that beautiful Columbo moment

 

[popsicle_sundays]

Wow, did not expect that....

Currently running 4k LG FreeSync Monitors so this syncs up...

 

[Trago]

This complicates my TV purchasing decisions. Probably won't be anything with 2.1 available until next year.

I know right?

Gimme OLED, HDMI 2.1, and variable refresh at 65 inches or give me death!

 

[Ricky_R]

Scorpio's on a roll.

 

[Zombie James]

THIS is what I expected from a PS4 Pro, if Scorpio adds greater than 60 hz supports...GG.

Me too. I thought Sony would try this and announce TV's that support this as well.

The Pro launched on November 2016 while the HDMI 2.1 spec was announced in January 2017 and hasn't even been ratified yet. Talk about unrealistic expectations.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Off-topic, but do we have anymore Scorpio deeps dives coming up or is that pretty much it?

 

[Inuhanyou]

Unfortunately, by the time any measure of TV's fully take advantage of this(or take advantage of it to begin with) the gen will almost be over :/

I wish TV manufacturers would get with the friggen times. Even HDR standards are not anywhere near simple or unified enough to be supported for consumers.

We've been on the HDMI 1.0 standard for so long you'd have thought these technologies would have been planned by companies to be supported in advance

 

[Zaph]

This is the biggest news from Scorpio imo

I can't ever go back from Gsync, so I'm glad a major player has started the race to get similar tech into the living room.

 

[Kayant]

Weird this was just not just said in the beginning instead of someone from MS saying it was HDMI 2.0

On the display output, of course, HDMI 2.0 - we need that for the additional frame-rate for 4K and also HDR and the wide colour gamut

Still awesome to this on console.

 

[link2021]

MS better get in bed with samsung and make a xbox tv to have at least one tv compatible for this year

 

[Theorry]

They really went full out with this thing it almost feels like a new gen.
If this is gonna be $399 that would be crazy.

 

[nynt9]

To my knowledge there are no TVs with current or planned freesync support, so if you want to utilize this you have to get s monitor.

They really went full out with this thing it almost feels like a new gen.
If this is gonna be $399 that would be crazy.

I think this is a bit of an overstatement, but whatever.

 

[Kaako]

Hands down, this is easily THE most exciting/worthwhile Scorpio news and am glad you went back and confirmed with MS, John.
The inclusion of HDMI 2.1 and FreeSync is fucking fantastic! Xbox enthusiasts should be ecstatic cause this is a godsend for jittering/screen tearing.

 

[Datschge]

Adaptive sync support in a home console is a real game changer if there ever was one.

 

[Okami Haundo]

Unfortunately, by the time any measure of TV's fully take advantage of this the gen will almost be over :/

I wish TV manufacturers would get with the friggen times. Even HDR standards are not anywhere near simple enough to be supported for consumers

Personally, I think this helps paint the picture that Microsoft considers Scorpio to be a half-step towards next gen.

 

[mocoworm]

The Pro launched on November 2016 while the HDMI 2.1 spec was announced in January 2017 and hasn't even been ratified yet. Talk about unrealistic expectations.

It could have supported GSync though, no?

 

[Crazymoogle]

This complicates my TV purchasing decisions. Probably won't be anything with 2.1 available until next year.

This is very good news indeed. When are HDMI 2.1 TVs expected to drop?

2018. So best case expect some product announcements later this year and then 2018 for purchaseable sets. I'd say the big danger with the 2018 line is that it's possible only the higher end ($$$) sets have 2.1. Ideally, you want the midrange to support it too, stuff like typical LCD as opposed to just OLED/QLED. It's really just a matter of how much is it going to cost the manufacturers to use HDMI 2.1 chipsets and be able to drive their displays properly for Game Mode VRR.

For example, one thing I think could happen (hopefully not) is maybe a set supports VRR but not HDR at the same time. Or latency is utter trash if both are on. As usual it's going to take reviews to find out what sets are best.

whats the biggest monitor that currently supports freesync?

The problem is you need Freesync over HDMI, not just any existing Freesync (which typically uses DisplayPort). So you'd have to look very carefully at existing Freesync monitors to find a supporting model.

It could have supported GSync though, no?

GSync requires a custom chipset provided by Nvidia themselves, and (probably) an Nvidia graphics card. And not HDMI. So no.