I thought with recent estimates that we have, XB1 is tracking behind 360 sales launches aligned, no?
I mean itd be nice to get a breakdown of the SKUs for the PS4 family, but it's a PS4.
Do we have a breakdown?
The PS4 Pro is an incriminantal hardware upgrade.Fanboys have no idea how to process these incremental hardware upgrades.
this post rules
edit: aw man, I got linked to the thread and had to +1 how fantastic that post was, I didn't want to bump some inactive thread
Dear lord, what the fuck did I just read?!
I mean itd be nice to get a breakdown of the SKUs for the PS4 family, but it's a PS4.
Do we have a breakdown?
I wasnt following the thread, any numbers yet?
Only the number of members banned in the last three pages of this thread.
9 members
I wasnt following the thread, any numbers yet?
*crying*
Do you think Statham is proud or ashamed of the meme he created?
I can accept everything, but I need the split to do that. Ok?
What mental Gymnastics. How many people would have got a slim if Pro was not an option? How many Xbox Slim buyers are Xbox Phat buyers? What Bundles/Promos would sony have had the Pro not been released? Sony already said a big portion of PRO owners never owned a PS4. PS4 has been outselling X1 for years, Pro or No Pro, the split tells you nothing.
You're thinking of Quantum Break, Sirronoh!
I think Sony only bundles the first party games that they think will align well with the US market. So, basically, all the big, first party titles from western studios - UC4, Horizon, God of War, etc...
Sony has stated that it is on the success of their bigger titles that they can afford to venture into the smaller titles and the loss they may bring. So, I think Sony is just trying to maximize what they know will work in US while the rest of the world carries the other stuff.
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Mmm, I see what you're saying. I think there is potential in something like Persona 5, for example, and it would be nice for them to at least look at the potential of specific titles if they are not going to do it for everything.Thank you! And yes, I agree. Certainly looks like Sony is trying to focus on what has been traditionally defined as US-centric brands. Still, it could be an interesting experiment for their analytics team to mix things up every once in a while to see if the market has changed. Instead of just Uncharted or The Last of Us (they still haven't committed to Horizon btw), they could've tried the Last Guardian. Perhaps try Persona 5. I dunno but sometimes you just don't know until you try (within reason of course) and times change.
Mmm, I see what you're saying. I think there is potential in something like Persona 5, for example, and it would be nice for them to at least look at the potential of specific titles if they are not going to do it for everything.
Oh, and why do you think Sony has committed to Horizon yet? I do think they need to step up marketing but I think that will come soon.
Mmm, I see what you're saying. I think there is potential in something like Persona 5, for example, and it would be nice for them to at least look at the potential of specific titles if they are not going to do it for everything.
Oh, and why do you think Sony has committed to Horizon yet? I do think they need to step up marketing but I think that will come soon.
That's a good question. In regards to Horizon, I find this somewhat baffling to be honest. Sony is on record stating they see this as their next big franchise. They've done a lot of press events and the game is getting a lot of coverage as a result of that. There's lots of videos out in the wild plus print and digital advertisements. It feels like the only thing they haven't done is give Horizon a bundle.
I think what it comes down to though, is that Sony's marketing team is just not as aggressive as Microsoft's marketing team in the States. I want to be careful saying that because I'm not suggesting Sony in general is conservative because they certainly take a lot of risks, particularly on the diversity of games they offer. But when it comes to marketing in the States, even though they're #1 right now in terms of market share, they don't feel the need to go for complete domination like they tried to do back in the PS2 days. (There's a famous E3 photo going around show Kaz trashing Nintendo and Microsoft during some on stage presentation.)
Seems like Sony is content to focus on (a) Sony and (b) profitability. Microsoft on the other hand seems to very much be focused on (a) profitability and (b) bridging the gap between Xbox and PlayStation in the States. It's why they can't stop talking about Sony. Even when they find some statistic they can use to highlight themselves (MAUs, YoY growth, etc.), they find a way, directly or indirectly, to bring up Sony to try and play the momentum card.
I can dive deeper into why I think Microsoft is doing this but my point is that Sony is doing amazing worldwide so they're not going out of their way in the States if they don't absolutely feel like they need to. PS4 sales in the second half of 2016 have indeed been down in the States compared to 2015 but besides having great new games available and the usual holiday price cut (and now February price cut), they haven't done much else to address that particular issue. And maybe that's OK once we step back and look at the larger picture.
They recently announced the white PS4 slim available everywhere except for the States. It wasn't until just the other day that they announced the white slim would come to the States and even then, it's exclusive to Walmart of all places. Why not have a white Horizon bundle available at all retailers to sit alongside the Uncharted 4, Call of Duty, and Pro consoles?
The examples that I mentioned above coupled with how aggressive Microsoft has been end up making Sony look not as aggressive. Some of that is simply because of what Microsoft is doing but some of that is simply on Sony. And it's not a bad thing -- Sony should do whatever they feel is necessary for their business. All three hardware manufacturers have different strategies after all. As some random guy on salesgaf though, I just find Sony's marketing approach with their bundles interesting because from the outside looking in, I think Sony has a lot of potential that maybe they aren't taking advantage of.
This is a hits driven industry and every game has potential to be a deciding factor to bring new customers into an ecosystem. Uncharted wasn't always Uncharted after all; it had to start somewhere.
They have TV, Theatre ads already running, it is already getting a big push from Sony.
I think you are living in a bubble...Horizon is being pushed nearly as hard as an established franchise UC4.
It feels like the only thing they haven't done is give Horizon a bundle.
I think the Horizon bundle will come. I think Sony is just trying to give the UC4 bundle its last push before it is phased out.*post*
Yeah, I just started seeing more of a push on TV. I've seen quite a few ads for Horizon now.They have TV, Theatre ads already running, it is already getting a big push from Sony.