The Praiseworthy
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PS4 vs PS1/PS2/PS3 in sales so far
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Salvor.Hardin
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By this reasoning, shouldn't the PS3 destroy the PS2 in terms of sales?
For those who want it in graph form:
Excellent, thank you. We just need a bit more PS3 data in there to cover the last 12 months.
Would be nice if the thread could be updated when they announce new numbers but I realise that over the years it's going to get forgotten.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, if someone throws me some more numbers, I'll put them in there.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
1/10. Too accurate
It's true. Over time, the Playstation brand just gets more pussy.
ScottSullivan
Member
A lot of this speaks to the efficiency and capacity of industrial manufacturing these days.
Those factories in China can sure make a lot of stuff. To be able to put out that many boxes in so many territories at once is crazy. The numbers are a bit skewed from the ps2 days because of that though
Those factories in China can sure make a lot of stuff. To be able to put out that many boxes in so many territories at once is crazy. The numbers are a bit skewed from the ps2 days because of that though
Noble Neckbeard
Banned
As a big fan of consoles... me gusta. 
A world in which console gaming no longer exists is a world in which I no longer game.
A world in which console gaming no longer exists is a world in which I no longer game.
dynamitejim
Member
Makes me wish they would have targeted a more powerful $500 machine. Specs bring hype, no doubt about it. Just look at the reaction to the 8GB GDDR5 announcement. Imagine if it were 2.5TFlops and 200+ GB/s of bandwidth on top of that. It would make the XB1 look even less appealing.
Noble Neckbeard
Banned
I don't think they would have reached this amount of sales yet with a $100 higher price tag. That value point is a huge deal. Of course, it doesn't hurt that the console is still pretty powerful.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Nobody would have given a shit.
It had a very slow start before the heavy hitters came around in 97-98. I remember someone posting an article about the N64 outselling it in the US and how it looked like the N64 would win the console war.
I think it will do quite well, but it's too early to tell how well it will do.
What.
They are selling every unit they can produce. Especially in the US.
If they made 10million PS4's by the end of January, you'll be seeing 10million sold to consumers pretty soon.
Pay to play online
No backwards compatibility
No custom game soundtracks
No Japanese representation
No way to organize the home screen
Controller has a light on it that you cannot turn off for literally no reason
All data from here
https://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html
PS3 launches in November, so the first Q (Q3) covers 2 months.
5 months = 3.5 - End of FY 2006 March 31st
8 months = 4.2 June 30th
11 months = 5.5 September 30th
14 months = 10.4 December 31st
17 months = 12.6 End of FY 2007 March 31st
20 months = 14.2 June 30th
23 months = 16.6 September 30th
26 months = 21.1 December 31st
29 months = 22.7 End of FY 2008 March 31st
dynamitejim
Member
An extra $100 wouldn't have mattered. There's too much pent up demand from the last gen dragging on for too long. The only reason they might not have reached this many sales is because a more powerful system might be harder to produce.
jackissocool
Member
The only one of those that's a real issue is the pay for online and it's negated by the fact that everyone should have PS+ for the games anyways.
Edit: Ok Japan rep is a problem but it's not Sony's fault so much as the Japanese industry's fault.
Suzushiiro
Banned
The quote isn't implying that they did everything right, just that they did a lot of things right. A hell of a lot more than they did with the PS3, and (more importantly) a lot more than XBone did.
I dont like the way everything is setup on Ps4 compared to Ps3 either. The Ps3 setup was pretty slick. Easy to find everything. now its all loaded down with huge space sucking pictures and things that make it look like a social website. Which is probably what they were looking for but Im not keen on it.
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
Going by those numbers the PS3 should completely overshadow the PS2 userbase in the next 22 months!!!!!
pretty done
Member
Only the weak consoles are dying. Ain't nobody got time for 720p.
So they are selling everything they can make and that's not good enough? Suggest where they can go from here and how they can make that number more impressive
Sublyminal
Neo Member
So them selling out every single unit they have managed to produce is grim? whut?
I remember 2001. It was a tough year for anyone in sales cats or sales cat peripherals.
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well deserved.
Not really a surprise. The third movie of a trilogy always brings in the most money. Also, everyone was thirsty for next gen. Though it is kind of sad that there are so many units out there but no games. I hope it turns into a ps2 situation where we get BLOODY ROAR and other awesome games. Where is the Bloody Roar announcement, where is the Soul Calibur announcement? Where is MK? Nothing is announced and it's killing me.
A lot of your negatives in your negative list there does not mean much to the "Majority" of gamers ...just saying. Also some of your list will be fixed with firmware updates...for sure.
Suzushiiro
Banned
Yeah, the power difference would arguably matter less if PS4 was stronger but matched XBone's price tag. The big reason why it matters now is that PS4 is giving you more for less.
They're currently at the sweet spot where they're stronger enough to be noticeable to the people who care, but cheap enough (both relative to the 'bone and in an absolute sense) for those who don't.
Host Samurai
Member
Im so down for another PS2 era. If this console takes off in Japan than its very possible. One of the reasons why I think the home console market shrunk in Japan was due to the rough PS3 struggles and Japan just didn't care about the Xbox. Now in the last few years we have been seeing a good amount of Japanese PS3 support. Hopefully with the Japan line up things will go well since its a very Japanese friendly launch imo.
Two super obvious observations going off the graph.
The PS4's launch is way ahead of prior generations, to a degree I did not anticipate. We can attirbute the global nature of modern console launches, as compared to prior generations, to part of that. But certainly not all.
It also highlights how early in the generation we are. We'll be able to see when this pace flattens out pretty quickly.
The PS4's launch is way ahead of prior generations, to a degree I did not anticipate. We can attirbute the global nature of modern console launches, as compared to prior generations, to part of that. But certainly not all.
It also highlights how early in the generation we are. We'll be able to see when this pace flattens out pretty quickly.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
I love my PS4, but let's not forget that there are more gamers now than ever before. And with the console priced at $400, that's cheaper than the launch price of the PS3 (also the PS2? I forget), and that's not even accounting for inflation.
It seems a ton of gamers were so ready to move onto next gen and i can understand why being such a long strung out last generation..it was painful for a lot of us..especially us PC gamers that love console gaming just as much. I mean i would rarely play console games the last 2 years because i simply couldn't take it anymore..i just mostly gamed on PC for the most part..outside of a few PS3 exclusives that were marvels to behold.
Now that the new hardware is out...its just a bit of waiting until next gen heats up with spectacular looking/playing games. Great thing for me is that i have both my gaming PC and PS4 connected to my 55 inch plasma...it's a awesome combo for any gamer but getting back to my point..a lof of the people i know i could tell they were no longer being impressed with last gen games the last few years besides a few here, there, etc
enanogrande
Member
I wanna see this 10 months out. Also, I'd like for someone to do an amalgamation of first years PS2 sales using all the territories the PS4 is available in - comparing first year PS2 in only japan to first year PS4 worldwide is a little unfair, especially if you see the huge jump PS2 got in it's second year (after wide release).
CosmicQueso
Member
What it really says is that Sony (and MS) ramped up early production significantly versus prior launches.
1st Course
Member
Wii U had a really good start, but then completely collapsed.
Going by Jan NPD report and the fact that they are nearly 1m X1 console still on shelves, I expect the X1 to follow a similar path.
The Albatross
Member
I think the most important thing about that graph is that, despite the PS3's horrible launch, and the perception that the PS2 was such a killer console at launch, that the gaming industry grew enough in those years that the PS3 actually outpaced the PS2 in early growth.
Also, Sony's shortage during the PS2 era was prolific. Took me a like 6 months on a waiting list to get a PS2.
Also, Sony's shortage during the PS2 era was prolific. Took me a like 6 months on a waiting list to get a PS2.
KillerMan91
Member
It had good start because Nintendo flooded the market with consoles (those are shipped numbers for WiiU). In retail it hasn't never done that well. Decent start in US and Japan and horrible in Europe.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
But consoles are dying, poetic. They're on life support as we speak!
..yes along with instant social media/interaction like twitter, facebook, reddit,etc,etc with a huge rise in smartphone for instant info anywhere.. this time around unlike last gen launch has more people that are much more informed than ever before..so much more than last gen launch...so i truly believe a lot of "casual" gamers and consumers which make up the majority of console sales are so much more informed on power difference of the two consoles, plus and minus of each console,etc...
The economy is still pretty stagnated as well...the dollar is weak as hell so price really does matter...especially like you said..more for less being a HUGE factor.