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Report claims Nintendo management scheming to get rid of Iwata
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What the hell??
Iwata's approval rating among investors is 80%, up from last year:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=847130&highlight=iwata
I don't think investors would take kindly to this, even though the company isn't perform very well right now.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=847130&highlight=iwata
I don't think investors would take kindly to this, even though the company isn't perform very well right now.
Maybe he had a change of heart.
No, a meeting with Yamauchi from the afterlife would be far more terrifying than that. It'd be more like the equivalent scene with Ganon and Zant:
Zombie James
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Good. Nintendo needs leadership that doesn't have it's head stuck in the sand.
Putting Nintendo franchises on smartphones actually makes a lot of sense in Japan. That doesn't mean you put the best and greatest titles on there. But you have a lot of classic games to put on there or you can create a ton of free-to-play models to generate a lot of money. You can still have a traditional handheld market, but half of the money made on games in Japan are made on smartphones.
Haha wow. Here's the original source if anyone wants to do an accurate translation.
http://biz-journal.jp/i/2014/08/post_5585.html
Godzilla's Left Toe
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Who ever wrote the article is clearly clueless
Nintendo could make money off their vault of games at leat 10+ years and older. I'm sure the revenue for the first SMB on a smartphone would be huge compared to what they are making on that game today. Same could be said for the first Zelda. Plus, with the strong smartphone support in Japan, that's essentially money left on the table that could help pay for new games for the Wii U.
They should sell these classic games that people are constantly emulation. People will buy them for the right price.
Shikamaru Ninja
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There is no way that management wants to get rid of Iwata. Investors yes, but no way would the executive directors be calling for his head. They are all FRIENDS.
Maybe the auditors.. or something. But they don't have adequate power.
Maybe the auditors.. or something. But they don't have adequate power.
Ehhh I disagree. Who's to say EAD wouldn't want to work on a mobile game? They all own smartphones, some of them probably even play a game here and there on said phones.
They could just be a 3rd party publisher/developer. Nintendo games sell, it's just their hardware that's a though sell. However Nintendo would be idiotic to ignore mobile (if they went full 3rd party), because part of their strength is in handheld devices.
Finale Fireworker
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I stand with Iwata. I think he's very important for Nintendo's image. And investors might have the bigger vote in this case.
Aquamarine
Member
He worked at Nintendo...I think in the planning department...but he decided to fly under the radar.
No. can you imagine playing a precision heavy game such as SMB 1 or 3 using a goddamn touchscreen? Actually, don't imagine. Get an emulator and see for yourself. It amazingly turns the game into a pile of frustrating, tedious shit.
Nintendo are absolutely right to keep them on consoles where they belong. A far better suggestion than smartphones would be PC and Steam.
TheRealTalker
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using the term scheming just gives me a vivid image of Nintendo nobles plotting to overthrow a king
RurouniZel
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Tell that to SNK.
The moment Iwata is gone, is the moment the Nintendo whe knew will change. Maybe that's good for the business but not good for the gamers. At this point I've come to peace with Nintendo eventually stopping to be what they are now; the current position is unsustainable and the leaders don't know what to do regarding the situtation.
I for one would absolutely hate Nintendo games in smartphones... it would be a big kick in the nuts, but for a business sense it does make sense. Handheld gaming, Nintendo's cornerstone, is falling apart. I barely see kids with a 3DS these days, most kids just play in tablets or their smartphones. Its the reality and its a shift I see many hardcore gamers not wanting to understand. Yes, the games are generally atrocious and I can't play for shit in a touch screen, but the current generation of young gamers are moving there for handheld gaming. That's the truth. That's where the business will be. Unless Nintendo comes up with a whole new kind of handheld I doubt that's happening.
As for consoles.. well, I love the WiiU but most gamers are not embracing it. They cannot sustain the console division for too long. There are a LOT of things they can do to fix this one though, and I'd gladly take a new Nintendo console and smartphone gaming or perhaps a smartphone/handheld mix, or whatever.
Yes, you can read this as a Nintendo is doomed post, but this is how business and reality is. It sucks... it really fucking sucks but Nintendo cornered itself.
I for one would absolutely hate Nintendo games in smartphones... it would be a big kick in the nuts, but for a business sense it does make sense. Handheld gaming, Nintendo's cornerstone, is falling apart. I barely see kids with a 3DS these days, most kids just play in tablets or their smartphones. Its the reality and its a shift I see many hardcore gamers not wanting to understand. Yes, the games are generally atrocious and I can't play for shit in a touch screen, but the current generation of young gamers are moving there for handheld gaming. That's the truth. That's where the business will be. Unless Nintendo comes up with a whole new kind of handheld I doubt that's happening.
As for consoles.. well, I love the WiiU but most gamers are not embracing it. They cannot sustain the console division for too long. There are a LOT of things they can do to fix this one though, and I'd gladly take a new Nintendo console and smartphone gaming or perhaps a smartphone/handheld mix, or whatever.
Yes, you can read this as a Nintendo is doomed post, but this is how business and reality is. It sucks... it really fucking sucks but Nintendo cornered itself.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Nintendo's management, so not shareholders but guys like Miyamoto and the other top Nintendo devs?
Sir_Crocodile
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article sounds like tales from my arse.
if this was true, we wouldn't hear about it anyway, and if these are long time nintendo vets, they should know enough about the industry to know what a long-term killer going into the smartphone industry would be. If this was shareholders which could be focused on short term gain, it would be more credible, but management?
if this was true, we wouldn't hear about it anyway, and if these are long time nintendo vets, they should know enough about the industry to know what a long-term killer going into the smartphone industry would be. If this was shareholders which could be focused on short term gain, it would be more credible, but management?
sakipon
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"Native" Nintendo executives disliking someone who came from outside and now they want Yamauchi's son instead... that sounds like a terrible insider clique. I don't know anything about his son but the children of great leaders are not always great leaders themselves. That's why we have democracy and/or elected ministers.
Yeah. I mean this is just anecdotal and perhaps representative of my age group but 90% of the time I see someone with say a jailbroken iphone or the like... they're using it for stuff like emulators. I could see Nintendo doing quite well with focusing their traditional gaming elements in traditional consoles and handhelds, but moving their virtual console service to a mobile platform as well.
I'm pretty sure the bulk of Nintendo's money comes from hardware, not software. If they start putting their games on other systems, people will just get into a habit of port begging every time they have exclusives instead of buying Nintendo consoles, because they expect Nintendo to put their games on other things. Plus this is stuff like Mario and Zelda we're talking about. Most people have played at least one and know what they're about.
Chinpoko_Master
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He should've been gone last year after the failure of the Wii U.
was gonna say lol it sounds like people not involved in the manner are trying to oust which doesn't make sense
TheRealTalker
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heh an invasion of the new worlds will begin soon
For some people that's good enough. I'm with you, but we wouldn't be the Target audience for those games. If porting old Nintendo games to mobile translates to profit, why the hell not do it?
Zeyphersan
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Literally nothing about this "report" makes sense
Pretty much.
If he was a company based in any other nation on the planet he would have lost his job a long time ago.
Arakawa chose the easy money running the Tetris company until he retired recently in March 2013. He's also 67 and I doubt he would want to come run a company as large as Nintendo just to be a caretaker of the company for the next person.
Anyway, the article reminds me a lot of how Sony's execs were looking to stab each other in the back, especially during the Howard Stringer era, and we know that was a toxic environment to work in. I can't see how Nintendo's executive climate can be similar to how Sony's turned out during one of its worst periods.
EdwardTeach
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Putting their iP on smartphones would be the death knell of Nintendo.
I hope iwata stays.
I hope iwata stays.
It'll stop people buying Nintendo's hardware. People won't bother if they can buy Mario or Zelda on their phones.
Also, someone break out that infographic showing how bad mobile platforms actually are for making money, unless you're in the 1%
Aquamarine
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Yeah if Iwata worked at an American corporation he would have been fired last year.
Ah, got my ancient punishments mixed up. Nokogiribiki was the one where passersby sawed off the head of a person. Sorry, my fault.
Because it would be shit. The games fall apart without a controller. Nintendo take huge pride in presenting the games as they were in terms of controls - why fuck up classics with ass-tier control setups?
Why do games like Angry Birds and Flappy Bird perform so well? Because they're damn simple to play. SMB on a touch screen is absolutely not.
I would not be opposed to Nintendo making little side-projects using their characters that are purely catering for mobile devices. Stuff like a new Pikmin or Wario Ware. That would work. Their legacy titles though? Not a chance in hell. Ever.
Sounds like you'd fit in with Nintendo shareholders just fine.
Linkstrikesback
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The moment you can get the new pokemon and Mario on mobile platforms is the day nintendos time in the hardware business ends.
And then it's only a matter of time until they become another Sega.
postcyberpunk
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It's already the beginning of the end for Nintendo as the company currently stands: they hold on to the current model and become irrelevant as a hardware maker, they make their games for smartphones or other systems and become irrelevant as a hardware maker but see some uptick as a software company. Irrelevant is probably too strong, but the record profits and midshare of the Wii has gone.
I wouldn't go that far.
outunderthestars
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I really don't see why Nintendo IP has to be connected to Nintendo hardware. They continue to make amazing games and then leave them locked to terrible hardware.