Mihael Mello Keehl
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OH MY GOD 10K KEEP TURNING THAT WHEEL!!!
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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development
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Ah okay, good stuff.
Do would a 'screen controller' allow for backwards compatibility? Would also explain why Mario Maker/Splatoon would get NX Ports due to their usage of the gamepad.
Ocarina_117
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With my desire for NX knowledge satiated; I shall sleep. Thanks 10k; I'm loving the NX hype train - really REALLY excited for Nintendo!
reelbigtink
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Don't care if this turns out to be false. Hopping on board the 10k train. At the very least he's entertained me during a pretty bleak time.
digoutyoursoul
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Still can't get hyped
Would love Nintendo to surprise me in a good way though
Would love Nintendo to surprise me in a good way though
Huh? It's called references.
James Scott
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Hope you're right, 10k, I was fine believing it was between X1 and PS4 now you're promising quite a lot of more even if I don't fully understand it.
I think I know who's the source for the last one about the NX output being greater than the Wii U's rather quickly.
Splatoon's success should show that more new IPs will probably happen.
I think I know who's the source for the last one about the NX output being greater than the Wii U's rather quickly.
Splatoon's success should show that more new IPs will probably happen.
SirPenguin
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Yeah, that was my first thought as well
I'm actually now wondering how much of this is an echo chamber - is it basically Neal. Emily, Liam and now 10k just bouncing rumors off each other?
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Thanks for posting 10K, but I already have a couple of thoughts (just having read the first thing on the controllers so far).
-Does the Wii U controller have built-in processing hardware? And could that be the reason why it's so expensive to the point Nintendo decided not to sell it individually? B/c if the NX controller is a continuation of that, I would have to assume the built-in processing hardware would be the main thing axed. If not and NX's controller is essentially the same as Wii U's build-wise, how are they going to keep it reasonably priced and provide it for individual sale? Or was that whole bit from Nintendo BS?
-The hotspot USB adapters is a good idea, but those already exist for a pretty reasonable price. I don't see the point in Nintendo making their own rather than just building in the infrastructure for 3rd party devices that do the same thing to work on NX. Unless it's for security purposes or something.
-Does the Wii U controller have built-in processing hardware? And could that be the reason why it's so expensive to the point Nintendo decided not to sell it individually? B/c if the NX controller is a continuation of that, I would have to assume the built-in processing hardware would be the main thing axed. If not and NX's controller is essentially the same as Wii U's build-wise, how are they going to keep it reasonably priced and provide it for individual sale? Or was that whole bit from Nintendo BS?
-The hotspot USB adapters is a good idea, but those already exist for a pretty reasonable price. I don't see the point in Nintendo making their own rather than just building in the infrastructure for 3rd party devices that do the same thing to work on NX. Unless it's for security purposes or something.
But how would Nintendo manage to keep up that large of an NX portfolio as far as games go without uniting everything under one platform? And would the controller being able to be taken anywhere come at the cost of Nintendo's dedicated handhelds (I doubt it, but I could see some interpreting your news as such)?
Dark Cloud
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I said Luigis Mansion 3 would be great for launch. I said Next Level Games was making LM3 for Wii U, but it got pushed to NX due to Wii U failing. There was the rumor last year prior to E3 NLG was making a Wii U game. This makes total sense and makes me soooo happy!
Francokid1
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That description of the screen controller sounds like it's just the Wii U gamepad... or am I missing something?
Thanks 10k
Thoughts:
1) I really can't believe Nintendo saw the lack of success of the Wii U and really thought Off TV Play should again be the gimmick, especially if the NX really is Western focused. They are again completely misreading the market. If true, hopefully it is optional.
2) These two seem like contradictory statements:' It is "marginally better than the PS4" and theoretically could be "2x the power of PS4 GPU".' Unless they mean 2x is marginally better.
Thoughts:
1) I really can't believe Nintendo saw the lack of success of the Wii U and really thought Off TV Play should again be the gimmick, especially if the NX really is Western focused. They are again completely misreading the market. If true, hopefully it is optional.
2) These two seem like contradictory statements:' It is "marginally better than the PS4" and theoretically could be "2x the power of PS4 GPU".' Unless they mean 2x is marginally better.
Spyder_Monkey
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With all that being said, I expect a proper 3DS successor to be a thing.
I agree, or at least more unique ghosts in general. Got disappointed with the large number of generic ghosts.
LordOfChaos
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Aww yeah, 14nm Polaris. Now THERE are the details many of us were yearning for, even if it's T1. Now the question is, how big i.e shaders, ROPs, TMUs, etc.
Wouldn't the dedicated handheld be able to to stream as well (like the Vita) an so much more?
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I stil not rolling the usb
I believe the Wii U gamepad actually has 2 CPUs that allow for it to do some functions on its own such as the TV remote, the notifications thing and the quick start menu (and uncompress the stream from the console, but that's a given).
For number 2 I think they meant the CPU was marginally better and the GPU was much better. I might be reading it wrong, though.
It's literally the best part about the system. Like no joke. I have trouble going back sometimes. It's a straight up killer app that's been expounded by tons of reviewers, professionals, and and every day men alike.
James Scott
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Unifying development or ditching the handheld is one way of doing it. If the remote play is good enough it could make it a handheld replacement, though I'm not sure they'll ditch the handheld entirely.
Making the systems "like brothers" as Iwata said implies they're two of them
I think we keep a main thread, but, we should update the orig post with all of the 10k leaks so far.
i think this is the leadup to that. maybe they're doing this now and then next year they'll give people the option to buy the screen controller without needing a console to work with it, and they're just waiting for tech to improve/become cost-effective enough for them to do it.
I'm of the same belief, but recent events have people doubting that we'll even get a handheld under the NX Platform.
People say the Wii was a marginal improvement over the GC.
Off-TV play is definitely a good feature but I feel like it's hard to see the value in it until after you've bought the system. I'm not sure they could market that as its major USP.
Basically an amped up gamepad :/
Gamepad that can be used anywhere instead of within 20 feet. Gamepad that hopefully has a better touch screen.
It should really be optional to drive system costs down. Bundle it with mario maker or something.
Optional peripheral usually means the peripheral will die, but Wii U gave it 4 years to prove itself, and it only succeeded a small handful of times. If that's all it's got, make it optional.
I mean, even the most pessimistic source has put it above stock PS4, and Sony and pubs won't abaondon that install base, so NX even being weaker than PS4k by a lot wouldn't make it outdated out the door.
...Referenced for supposed secret information? Wat? If he has references than why would we assume said reference aren't the actual source? His sources happened to only tell him information on existing Reddit/GAF rumors and speculation?
Feel free to believe but I'm putting it in the "Free College Tuition" bin of silliness.
This is how I feel about it too so it's great news for me personally if true. That said price is a concern and the Wii U stigma is real.
MatrixMan.EXE
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2x the GPU power is marginally better, aye. It's about the same region as whatever PS4K is supposed to be. Honestly, I expect NX, PS4K and XB1.5 to be roughly the same.
MrSaturn99
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On the basis this is true, I'm actually kinda torn. A LM set-up would be more fitting for a home console, but LM2 was such a superior experience imo.
James Scott
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Gamepad 2.0 being mandatory on an expensive system sounds like a bad idea. Offering remote play and second screen elite controller would work out better
KillerMan91
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Another screen controller and decent amount of more power than PS4. Sounds pretty expensive (if true).
Screen was rumored to be 540p and the gamepad did have some incredible streaming tech.
Dark Cloud
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Why are some of you complaing about having a better Gamepad?
10K even said he doesn't know if it's the standard controller. For all we know it's optional. And second the Gamepad has to be close to the Wii U. This can be taken anywhere! I love this idea.
Wasn't there another rumor mentioning maybe the gimmick of the NX would be optional? I don't think Nintendo wants to drive the price up of the NX console.
10K even said he doesn't know if it's the standard controller. For all we know it's optional. And second the Gamepad has to be close to the Wii U. This can be taken anywhere! I love this idea.
Wasn't there another rumor mentioning maybe the gimmick of the NX would be optional? I don't think Nintendo wants to drive the price up of the NX console.
I am just saying that he is showing that this stuff is not impossible and not just putting it out of his rear.
If they double down on it as an "off screen play" experience in the marketing as opposed to the difficult to understand asymmetrical play aspect I think it could be done. In fact it might be good to make be good to make it a de-facto standard across all games to support off-screen play.
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