Memory amount does not actually impact performance, unless you are testing a scenario where 4 GB would be too little, then you'd just get a slideshow, regardless of how powerful the card is.
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[rumour] AMD R9 390X, Nvidia GTX 980 Ti and Titan X Benchmarks Leaked
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Memory amount does not actually impact performance, unless you are testing a scenario where 4 GB would be too little, then you'd just get a slideshow, regardless of how powerful the card is.
Mad Season
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nvidia drivers still prevail
thunder_snail
Member
I'm not sure about games. I think game engines are designed with the bandwidth limit in mind. But when it comes to compute stuff, memory management is a big issue, and bandwidth is always limiting.
publicpwnerer
Member
I agree with this. But at what point / cost does the hardware outweigh that? 390X just looks too good of a deal, moreso than previous card comparisons.
Same drivers that took away overclocking and STILL have not been fixed?
You can keep them!
I thought 2016 was the next time I we'd see some new Nvidia GPUs?
Dictator93
Member
Are you referencing the removal of GPU overclocking from laptops? If so, what does that have to do with the quality of single GPU drivers in the desktop sphere?
Haven't AMD drivers been pretty damn good the last year or so?
Hope they price it accordingly (much more cheaper than Titan X and just a little bit higher than the 980), I'm not going to purchase it, but to stir up the marketplace and create good competition, thus forcing Nvidia to step up their game and lower their prices.
I'm staying with Nvidia however, got a 970 and will get a second one rather sooner than later, due to their superior support and drivers.
I'm staying with Nvidia however, got a 970 and will get a second one rather sooner than later, due to their superior support and drivers.
Dictator93
Member
It depends, haven't they not released drivers for quite some time now? Including important drivers for games like FC4?
ashecitism
Member
Of course there wasn't any statement, lol
A 1080 might arrive months after the Titan, like last time.
New architecture, yes. But refreshes and Big Maxwell will happen this year.
Better, but they still suck on OpenGL front, which is critical for things like Dolphin Emulator.
I'll wait for confirmation on powet consumption and noise levels, things AMD had trouble with in recent times.
I'm just pointing out how terribad the driver argument is. I want to scream every time I see "bad AMD drivers".
This 2004 is a long time ago.
CouchMaster
Member
Ah, makes sense. Omega actually did wonders with performance of newer games so I hope they don't break anything with v15 again.
They did, their driver updates for new games are usually a day or two behind Nvidia if not on same day. Crossfire support is whole another story however.
when there weren't any released, hoq could they have been bad?
and here:
looking forward to the 390.
Dictator93
Member
They arent necessarily horrible (unless you are talking about Open GL gaming), but there are certain key editable features in Nvidia drivers which make my life much more enjoyable. (SGSSAA, HBAO, Adaptive Sync).
Well as a multi-GPU user, I consider that a bid deal. How does editing profiles and compatibility bits work in CFX? Is that possible?
Pardon my naïvety, but does "4GB/8GB Stacked HBM" equal 8gigs Vram...?
At the rumored price of $549, but I would be seriously interested if it does.
(I want to get back into heavily-modded Skyrim, but the game chews through my 4gigs Vram with ENBoost, and the game unfortunately does not handle crossfire / SLI well.)
Coulomb_Barrier
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For most current applications, and especially gaming, it doesn't make much of a difference, but there are scenarios obviously where 8gb will be an improvement over 4.
But point is, the average consumer may not know this and even if they do, 12gb is likely to be subconciously more alluring.
Probably just 4 or 8 GB configurations.
KillaKalz347
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The 4GB/8GB stacked is just a placeholder because theres some rumors of an 8GB variant as well.
What the heck is this graph even testing. 19 what? Screw Chiphell and screw WCCFTech.
edit: multiple sources are telling me that nVidia doesn't give a fuck and will probably price the Titan X at over $1000 anyways. I know my next card will be an AMD with HBM memory. nVidia can stick their ludicrous premiums where the sun don't shine
This just in: people still don't understand what Titans are for.
I guess you can't really blame people for it considering the marketing. It's brilliant by Nvidia, really.
Also, how the hell does that chart even work? They tested 19 games but only did one graph? Is it an average? What's the unit? FPS? In what kind of games does a 980 average 110 FPS att 2560*1600? This whole thing is a mess, and people should probably take it with a grain of salt.
Nintendojitsu
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Legitimate shock
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
8.2TFlOPS is a nice marketing point to counter smaller memory amounts compared to Nvidia. And then some.
I really wish there were more information about the mid-range cards. I'm tempted to buy a 970, but it seems like a bad idea since AMD is so close to announcing their R9 3XX cards. I'm hoping the current leaks aren't true for the lower-end cards, because I can't see buying a new AMD GPU when they come out only for HBM and new fab process to trump it in the near future.
They're not too bad on Windows. Linux, on the other hand, is still a horrible nightmare from what I can tell. I used it on my desktop for about a year or so and simple games like TF2 would have several seconds of input delay, random graphical glitches, around 1/3rd of Windows perf, etc. I still run Linux on my e450-based laptop, which released all the way back in 2011, yet it still has a plethora of day one issues such as not being able to adjust backlight brightness and power management problems. I know it's probably not the case for a lot of people, but if you have any interest in Linux at all it's best to avoid AMD in my opinion.
They're not too bad on Windows. Linux, on the other hand, is still a horrible nightmare from what I can tell. I used it on my desktop for about a year or so and simple games like TF2 would have several seconds of input delay, random graphical glitches, around 1/3rd of Windows perf, etc. I still run Linux on my e450-based laptop, which released all the way back in 2011, yet it still has a plethora of day one issues such as not being able to adjust backlight brightness and power management problems. I know it's probably not the case for a lot of people, but if you have any interest in Linux at all it's best to avoid AMD in my opinion.
CouchMaster
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I wouldn't know, because I wouldn't dare use more than one high end AMD card in my system. I would describe a guy with 2x 290x as someone who likes to live on the edge lol.
Chiphell isn't even the source. They were justing reposting someone else's benchmarks and added their watermarks. Here is where these benchmarks came from.
A random poster on Baidu. Yeah that's really reliable.
TheLegendOfMart
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Probably average FPS of all games combined.
Good on AMD , just means competitive pricing yay. (Or not since nvidia is still gonna charge a lot for their cards...smh)
If AMD had something like their own version of shadowplay (Do they??) i would jump over to amd for my next card
last amd card i had was a...4870 i think , its been quite a while!
If AMD had something like their own version of shadowplay (Do they??) i would jump over to amd for my next card
last amd card i had was a...4870 i think , its been quite a while!
Loool the same site that literally reports on anything and everything if if it sounds stupid as hell. [RUMOR]Microsoft Xbox One Could Possibly Feature a Powerful Discrete GPU Core Stacked Inside the APU
Flying Toaster
Member
Ok, I am not saying this is not true. But I will not jump on any hype trains till I see other sources that I follow coming to the same conclusions.
If this is true though, a price war between AMD/NVIDIA is just what is needed for an amazing entry into the PC gaming hobby for new enthusiasts coming to the fold.
If this is true though, a price war between AMD/NVIDIA is just what is needed for an amazing entry into the PC gaming hobby for new enthusiasts coming to the fold.
They have it. Called AMD Gaming Evolved software.
Those are some really old games then. Not many modern games where a 980 averages over 110 FPS at 2056*1600. Not exactly what I'd call a reliable comparison.
ashecitism
Member
Still 28nm. There won't be 20nm this year, but 16nm is expected for next year.
People seem to forget that coming DX12 and Vulkan, drivers will be almost nonexistent.
Times when Nvidia could force replace half of the badly written game from drivers, or use GameWorks to hide game code from AMD is coming to and end.
It's on the game now, and only on the game.
Then I guess 390x TDP is indeed 300w and water cooled as rumors suggest. I'll wait for 16nm since my 280x is already bordering on too hot for my case.
Technosteve
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what's stopping AMD from charging $1000
KojiKnight
Member
Trying to regain marketshare.
Don't forget about the engine / developper as well. DX12 is a real test of skill compared to DX11.
Cow Mengde
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Hopefully, this will bring more interesting chips for the mid-range sector as well. It's been what... 3 years and the 7850/7870 are still can't be beat.
aygomyownroad
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What about driver issues though?
When I built my pc I used a ati card and it had a fault that it couldn't run 3d games. I have no idea why but it just shut down on games like borderlands.
Ended up getting the same level of power in a visual and it ran crysis and borderlands at max with no problems.
Would be weary to go back to amd for the graphics cards but their prices are always so tempting
When I built my pc I used a ati card and it had a fault that it couldn't run 3d games. I have no idea why but it just shut down on games like borderlands.
Ended up getting the same level of power in a visual and it ran crysis and borderlands at max with no problems.
Would be weary to go back to amd for the graphics cards but their prices are always so tempting
TyphoonStruggle
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LOL. I literally hear this every year, like it's a new thing.
I'm sorry. What? Drivers are always pertinent (for PC gaming).