ROUGE_BLOCK
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So most likely Sony will be doubling down on PSVR for the press conference?
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Sony confirms PS4 Neo, [Cites smartphone cycle, waiting until enough games post E3]
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you think upping the ram is same as changing cpu/upping gpu clockspeed ?
im almost 100% sure a box the size of ps4 cant contain a full clock r480 there is no way.
Sony literally had to tear open PS4s about to be shipped and shove more RAM in there. that's how last second it was
There is little more frustrating than taking the time to rebut multiple arguments only to then be dismissed with "thats not my real argument this is" and then get the exact same response on the rebuttal to the aforementioned "real argument." what an infuriatingly aimless debate tactic.
Altered Juice
Member
smart move by Sony if it is a 2017 release. Rather see games tbh.
Ah, the ol "talking shit but if you respond you'll look a dumbass!" card. lol Gotta start using this more often.
Ah, the ol "talking shit but if you respond you'll look a dumbass!" card. lol Gotta start using this more often.
LurkFish17
Member
Still can't disregard the possibility of a hardware up clock. To get the full 6tf out of the rumored hardware.
So every E3 without Shenmue 3, FFVII:R and TLG was boring and disappointing to you? Sorry man. Maybe you have to choose a different hobby then.
Guess what: Maybe there will be new AAA 1st Party games, new IPs, new 3rd Party AAA games, new innovative indie games, etc. What about that? Interesting? Or do games bore you and you play with hardware only?
GHG
Member
He's clearly trolling, just ignore him. You're better than this Rex.
Obliterator
Member
You know that's not how it works right? Development kits change specs all the time. Now this could end up the exact same spec we've heard but it also could change it has happened many times in the past even with dev kits in the wild
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
E3 ruined.
That said, I'm glad it's confirmed. And I can't wait to buy it.
That said, I'm glad it's confirmed. And I can't wait to buy it.
What do you think MS would show of Scorpio? We've received no word of dev kits being out and the rumor is it's a fall 2017 release.
Maybe join your local speech and debate club if you are that desperate to argue with people.
pixellated_man
Member
Yes. It was the right move for Sony. This e3 will be focused on great games - no need to spoil it by showing a new system that half the internet doesn't seem to want.
TetraGenesis
Member
Did you even read my post? It was completely measured and reasonable. I'm sorry that you are too combative to see that.
I was trying to be cool and help your account survive the season, but it seems defending your ego is more important. You're a lost cause, man.
The Last One
Member
If this thing keeping selling way less than the base model I can see only Sony supporting eventually.
MisterCTwo
Member
We all know core gamers are going to be all over this because they'll want the best version of their games, the best graphics, frame rates, etc. The Neo will be my second PS4 day one. I just think the idea of saying this new PS4 is *the* PS4 for hardcore gamers creates an unnecessary dichotomy with the current system which is supposed to be the "best place to play." To me saying "it will take the PS4 gaming experience to a new level" or something similar would create the want for the new system without fostering the PSPoor idea.
Never say never but seems unlike to me. I don't think they will change the apu or something like that. We'll see.
No I'm asking you to actually state your actual arguement as apparently I have wasted my time replying to arguments that aren't your arguement multiple times. If your going to tell somebody repeatedly "that's not my arguement" then you should damn well tell them what the hell it is.
GameAddict411
Member
Alongside the current PS4? What's the purpose of this machine exactly? They have to be clear about this because it might actually fail otherwise.
Yes, I think so. Sony needs to unveil this thing quickly and release sometime this year. Also, they are killing the momentum of the PS VR release.
lol dont twist my words i never said they cant change specs. i said they cant change them in any meaningful way
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It truly does not matter. It is the new chipset they have in AMD's roadmap, since the old fab is being phased out in foundries. Plays the same software, etc.. The OG PS4 will eventually be phased out more than likely when prices come down enough to lower the new machine in the same range.
Or if they stick with the lesser SKU, it will use chips that have bad CU's disabled and can't pass for use in the 4K model.
If they are profiting from day one, as expected, then this just continues to be PS4 ecosystem sales effectively.
PSA: You know, I just came off a ban for being 'passive aggressive', just an FYI, junior bans are permanent.
Thanks for the advice!
pixellated_man
Member
Why is that a question at all? The ps4 that blew people away with Uncharted 4 is the system that will demo games obviously.
Obliterator
Member
There is zero e-peen and you are all over reacting to my discussion because you guys are emotional and have worked yourselves up in this thread.
I'm simply saying you never know there could be hardware tweaks on the way on non finalized hardware. That isn't even remotely controversial and if you guys would calm down would be aware of that.
Ps4 will continue to sell like hotcakes. NEO will provide a good boost.
alright then tell us what kind of change you expect
boredandlazy
Member
The one who's game gets denied certification.
Right ok so whenever you take the time respond to a post I hope they say "that's not really my arguement though" and never actually explain what their argument is. You repeatedly wasted my time and refuse to actually explain yourself.
qa_engineer
Member
seriously. keep pressing all the buttons and you'll find the eject button eventually.
Sony aren't killing the momentum of anything
I don't think that's what his quote relates to.
Doing flawless 100% BC is nearly impossible, even when the new machine contains the hardware of the old one inside of it ala PS2. There will always be the rare exception where a game is not BC and so making a statement like 'all' is not possible.
TetraGenesis
Member
I have to ask: If you don't care about posting on this forum, why are you? Do you live to fight? If you don't care then try not caring.
Obliterator
Member
I don't expect any. It's called wondering out loud. Like I said in my original statement I'm just curious if Sony is going to tweak some things. Maybe try to put a bigger clock increase on the CPU side or adjust the APU in some way. Maybe they will maybe they won't. It'll just be an interesting thing to keep an eye on over the next several months
Right that makes sense yh it definitely will be interesting to see how they market it.
PS4 owners not hardcore enough confirmed.
they wont risk fucking up ps4 compatibility by changing the apu
KinofChaos
Banned
I don't think he knows what his argument is, he is just arguing and flip flopping over the place, and throwing around Sonygaf accusations, best to ignore like I have, it's clear what his intent is.
Gotta disagree here. The sales of the Neo do matter, how important the Neo is to Sony's overall strategy for this generation is the object of speculation. The Neo is a risky move that presents a number of possible outcomes, it's worth discussing how its sales may impact or play into Sony's plans.
qa_engineer
Member
if the programming language, api, sdks and system architecture are the same then it should be easier than a PC to Console port. In this case its still an AMD x86 part with GCN using PSSL/GNM/GNMX. Should be relatively straightforward. Obviously I am oversimplifying as it will require dev work, qa etc. but nowhere near the LOE as going from exotic cell architecture to x86
mrmickfran
Member
Just fucking show it so I can buy a PS4 already.
I just find it hard to believe there aren't some annoyed people who pre-ordered the PS VR back when they thought their current PS4 will offer the optimum experience. There probably are going to be VR games that run like shit on the current PS4 when compared to the NEO. Sony could've done a better job in unveiling these two pieces of hardware. Either unveil them together or the NEO before the PS VR.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
So far this generation Sony has pretty much out-witted the competition by doing things first. Launch first, launch more powerful, introduced VR, etc. Microsoft has been the reactive one trying to catch up. Why would Sony go back to PS3 mode and see what the competition is doing before acting?
Obliterator
Member
The APU in the PS4k is already very very different than the one in the PS4.
That said again who knows what they plan on doing. This may be the exact specifications we've heard. It is odd though the atmosphere in this thread so I may be bouncing out. It's hostile as hell in here
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