Muskieratboi
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How did we get to this?
Just.. The sheer metafictional coincidence! This is Game Theory level shit, dude..
Just.. The sheer metafictional coincidence! This is Game Theory level shit, dude..
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Square Enix announces new cloud gaming service Shinra Technologies, led by Wada
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TheGreatDirector
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Looks a little bit like Black Materia to me...
Conspiracy theory aside, I don't see cloud gaming right now as a very competitive option for most gamers although I do admit I don't know much about it. Personally I like having physical copies of games so moving to Steam and digital gaming was a very strange move. I feel like cloud gaming would only dissuade gamers like me.
Here's also the official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yd83iCvLKY&feature=youtu.be
Aarglefarg
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This link (intentionally broken in quote in case there is an issue) gave me an 'untrusted' warning in Firefox.
Muskieratboi
Member
Oh my god I just noticed that joke, this is hilarious!
Aarglefarg
Member
Not to be all negative, as i think these are necessary steps in what seems like an inevitable direction. But...
I don't know man, I'm really skeptical about what these cloud services claim to make possible. Not that the technology isn't getting there, but no one talks about how they intend to service potentially millions of users if this these alternatives actually gain traction.
It's great that they can boast about having "unlimited processing power" and having "thousands of CPUs and GPUs" to handle processing. It's nice that Timmy's game is being processed remotely by multiple CPUs/GPUs, but what happens when a million customers need access to the service for various demanding games? Suddenly, those "thousands" of processors don't sound like much at all, and the notion of not being "shackled by technology" is slapped by the cold reality that such a service will either be very limited(in terms of how demanding the games can be, and/or number of users they can service), or cost a ton of money to maintain.
I don't know man, I'm really skeptical about what these cloud services claim to make possible. Not that the technology isn't getting there, but no one talks about how they intend to service potentially millions of users if this these alternatives actually gain traction.
It's great that they can boast about having "unlimited processing power" and having "thousands of CPUs and GPUs" to handle processing. It's nice that Timmy's game is being processed remotely by multiple CPUs/GPUs, but what happens when a million customers need access to the service for various demanding games? Suddenly, those "thousands" of processors don't sound like much at all, and the notion of not being "shackled by technology" is slapped by the cold reality that such a service will either be very limited(in terms of how demanding the games can be, and/or number of users they can service), or cost a ton of money to maintain.
Seriously! When did latency suddenly become a non-issue?
outunderthestars
Banned
Looking through their site I am convinced that this is the start of a viral marketing ARG for a FF7 remake.
A FFVII Remake with multiplayer/streaming elements to justify the cost of their new cloud-based experiment.
I mean....it's not the craziest theory in the world. They've said forever how expensive remaking FFVII would be. Make it a part of this thing and they can call it a business experiment (that they will likely profit the hell out of).
This made me lol
Ultimadrago
Member
ponpo please lead us into a new age of cloud.
DangerMouse
Member
"And that's what we're doing at Shinra."
and I lost it.
ROFL
It's happening, Shinra just became real.
There we go.
Dios mio.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I dislike the H and P R in that logo.
Caffeine
Member
jesus christ i had to check calendar to make sure it wasnt april first.
this is too much for me lol especially with wada at the helm.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Like.... did SE just discover the internet and self deprecating wit? This is so weird. They've been so on the ball this past month. It's creeping me the fuck out.
It`s funny how angry everyone become when Microsoft talked about cloud handling physics and stuff. Not that I like idea, but wouldn`t this only make sense for multiplayer games?
The goal is to offer games from many developers, including Square Enix.
http://venturebeat.com/2014/09/18/f...evelop-revolutionary-cloud-gaming-technology/
"By setting up a separate entity, Square Enix will make it easier for Shinra to develop its technology and partner with external game companies. Eventually, it could also evaluate at a later time whether to spin the subsidiary off as a separate company with its own external funding."
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
/dead
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
This guy are sick.
Yeah, America ain't Korea. I'm reminded of that one Microsoft guy who got fired for the "why would I live there comment" or whatever it was.
And just think, with net neutrality campaigning starting again!
T_T
Aiming for PC and STB to start.
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Deleted member 20920
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The cloud is more like a catchall term describing computing that's done on servers. I'm not an expert but I supposed one cloud is not like another. It all depends on the company's tech?
I think companies are doing this to prepare for the inevitable shift towards a console-less future. At best we could change the way we game in a huge way, at worse companies can gain more customers who choose to stream games to whatever devices they have in lieu of purchasing existing consoles. It sounds like a way to expand your customer base without relying on them havibg to purchase additional devices while still catering to your more hardcore crowd.
Maybe, but I still think it`s to early. Xbox One and Playstation 4 are both selling really well, so im really hoping for atleast one more console generation along with physical discs.
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Deleted member 20920
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It's goos to start early. Sony is with Playstation Now. Starting early helped Netflix become what it is and being late made the rest of the companies go out of business.
This sounds more like Playstation Now than MS's cloud though. They're already using similar tech for Dragon Quest X in Japan on smartphones and the 3DS. To varying degrees of success.
From the video it sounded like they wanted to offload operations to servers. Either way, I'm not looking forward to PSNow either. I'm just not a believer in cloud gaming and I think it's gonna be a big fail for the companies trying to make this succeed. But we'll see I guess.
KojiKnight
Member
God I want to make a joke, but all the best/easy ones were taken.
No this (Shinra) is nothing like PS Now. S-E is also launching something like PS Now, and it's called DiveIn. DQX is also a good example. Shinra is much more R&D driven and not something that is anything close to an actual consumer service or product anytime soon. They're basically trying to create a cloud based platform which developers will develop for exclusively, which can then be offered onto any other hardware device.
They really try to make it sound ~exciting~ here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yd83iCvLKY
I still don`t believe that services like PS Now can overtake local rendering. I also don`t believe that physical media will die anytime soon. The best way to sell the biggest amount of games will always be to combine physical and digital.
But that is just my opinion.
DXB-KNIGHT
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Square seems dedicated to remove their dependence on Hardware manufacturers.
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Deleted member 20920
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No this (Shinra) is nothing like PS Now. S-E is also launching something like PS Now, and it's called DiveIn. DQX is also a good example. Shinra is much more R&D driven and not something that is anything close to an actual consumer service or product anytime soon. They're basically trying to create a cloud based platform which developers will develop for exclusively, which can then be offered onto any other hardware device.
They really try to make it sound ~exciting~ here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yd83iCvLKY
Ah. I see. Didn't get the part where they want people to use them exclusively as a separate platform. That's actually even more interesting and perhaps an even more farsighted plan than just offering a service like DiveIn.
It won't be long before their datacenter tales over the world and Earth becomes property of Shinra Inc. and everyone on it an employee.
Seriously though, what the hell are they thinking at Square Enix? I heard about a similar project of theirs in Japan, but I can understand that: one country, infrastructure in place, tons of mobile devices, but outside of it as well? With PSNow in the game, I don't understand why they didn't just use that instead of investing into their own service. This won't go well.
FFXIII-2 as well. We live in a closed loop spacetime where the events of FF7 and FFX will happen, be forgotten, turned into games, happen again, be forgotten, turned into games, so on and so forth, for ever and ever.
Seriously though, what the hell are they thinking at Square Enix? I heard about a similar project of theirs in Japan, but I can understand that: one country, infrastructure in place, tons of mobile devices, but outside of it as well? With PSNow in the game, I don't understand why they didn't just use that instead of investing into their own service. This won't go well.
FFXIII-2 as well. We live in a closed loop spacetime where the events of FF7 and FFX will happen, be forgotten, turned into games, happen again, be forgotten, turned into games, so on and so forth, for ever and ever.
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
This has got to be some kind of elaborate viral marketing thing right?
Cloud, Avalanche, Shinra... I mean, it's just too suspect. Unless ofc, Squeenix make developer choices based purely on how well as company's name fits a theme. Actually that wouldn't really surprised me
Cloud, Avalanche, Shinra... I mean, it's just too suspect. Unless ofc, Squeenix make developer choices based purely on how well as company's name fits a theme. Actually that wouldn't really surprised me
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Jotamide
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The video was actually pretty cool.
SliceSabre
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Reading Shinra Technologies made me instantly distrust and dislike this company because of FFVII.
That said I'm curious to see where SE goes with this. Interesting that they've based in it the States instead of Japan.
That said I'm curious to see where SE goes with this. Interesting that they've based in it the States instead of Japan.
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