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Super "NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread" II TURBO
- Thread starter MarkMan
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Nice I've been looking for the PS4 version as I'd like to use my Switch Pro Controller on PS4 but it seems you can't buy it anywhere.
Keep debating with myself between an Obsidian and Panthera, for use on PC.
Obsidian is apparently a monster and weighs a lot, which may be an issue since I use it on my lap. But I can change the art easily. The Panthera is supposedly harder to mod.
Anyone have tried either/both and have an opinion?
Currently using an 8-9 year old Madcatz TE Round 2.
Obsidian is apparently a monster and weighs a lot, which may be an issue since I use it on my lap. But I can change the art easily. The Panthera is supposedly harder to mod.
Anyone have tried either/both and have an opinion?
Currently using an 8-9 year old Madcatz TE Round 2.
What's the Seimitsu equivalent of the Sanwa JLF on the TE2?
My new sanwa jlf seems to have a couple issues so I'm wondering if I should just try another one. One of the microswitches squeaks (this is the second sanwa stick I've gotten that's had this issue), and the stick feels like it drags or gets caught when pressing certain directions. I've tried looking at it from the bottom while I move it, and it seems like the rubber part of the the stick is sticking to/getting caught on some circular metal ring/plate that it makes contact with. I'm guessing there's an issue with the amount of lube they used and that it might be drying out or something?
My new sanwa jlf seems to have a couple issues so I'm wondering if I should just try another one. One of the microswitches squeaks (this is the second sanwa stick I've gotten that's had this issue), and the stick feels like it drags or gets caught when pressing certain directions. I've tried looking at it from the bottom while I move it, and it seems like the rubber part of the the stick is sticking to/getting caught on some circular metal ring/plate that it makes contact with. I'm guessing there's an issue with the amount of lube they used and that it might be drying out or something?
catpurrcat
Member
I cancelled my order (in Canada, only amazon has it, says 2-5 months, which is backordered,and importing from a smaller store is extremely expensive risking duties). Frustrating, as I'm already weeks deep into Tekken so wait time for a new stick is not an option.
Ended up sanwa modding my venom stick and also imported a RAP4 Kai Hayabusa for the same cost as the RAP N on its own.
As far as I'm concerned the HRAP N never existed to begin with.
Newegg allegedly has the HRAP N in stock, gonna put in an order there and see what happens.
EDIT: Son of a gun, they revised the shipping estimate to Monday, only after I had put in an order at Newegg instead. Oh well, canceled the Amazon order and the Newegg one is packaging and about to ship. What a mess.
EDIT: Son of a gun, they revised the shipping estimate to Monday, only after I had put in an order at Newegg instead. Oh well, canceled the Amazon order and the Newegg one is packaging and about to ship. What a mess.
katsubento
Member
If anyone was interested, the SFV Razer Panthera is available on Razer's site. First time I've seen it actually in stock.
Now if only they would discount the damn thing.
katsubento
Member
You can get $20 off coupon if you sign up for their newsletter. Was only $179 w/free shipping after. Not bad at all. Only $10 more than a Hori RAP N.
catpurrcat
Member
The RAP4 Kai I just received says Kuro buttons and no PC mention on box. Inside, stick has PC switch and Hayabusa buttons. Weird, nice surprise, but weird.
It's €240 out here and I don't see any coupons. If it were €200 including shipping I would buy one.
katsubento
Member
I got a brand new Madcatz Street Fighter IV Tournament Edition fight stick off eBay.
Ordered it on release in 2009, but the website I ordered from kept delaying it and never shipped so I cancelled the order and ended up with something else (I think just a cheap Tekken 5 stick).
Now finally getting​ what I actually wanted. Might post some pics next week once it arrives.
Ordered it on release in 2009, but the website I ordered from kept delaying it and never shipped so I cancelled the order and ended up with something else (I think just a cheap Tekken 5 stick).
Now finally getting​ what I actually wanted. Might post some pics next week once it arrives.
Now that is the type of workplace I would expect to see in a movie!
Cool stuff all over.
MrMephistoX
Member
Got the Hori Hayabusa for Xbone Im anticipation of getting my XBOX. In the meantime Im pairing it up with my PS4 version on my fightcade/man cave setup. Is there an active Fightcade GAF group?
Also have SANWA buttons to match my PS4 stick, Octogate abd balltops on order so the color scheme matches
Upgrading my PC soon so I can actually do SFV with mods.
P.S if anyone is in SoCal the Hacienda Heights Frys has two of the Viewlix replica Hori sticks...so tempting but couldnt justify the $299 pricetag.
Also have SANWA buttons to match my PS4 stick, Octogate abd balltops on order so the color scheme matches
Upgrading my PC soon so I can actually do SFV with mods.
P.S if anyone is in SoCal the Hacienda Heights Frys has two of the Viewlix replica Hori sticks...so tempting but couldnt justify the $299 pricetag.
katsubento
Member
My Panthera came in early! Like it so far...it has good weight and feels solid. The artwork is really nice. Tried the bat top for a bit to see if I could ever go back to that feel.
After a couple hours...put the ball top back on lol.
After a couple hours...put the ball top back on lol.
GinoFelino
Member
After a bajillion years, my country finally got the damn Hori Tekken 7 stick
It's great! Hefty, huge, and those new Hori components feel a lot better than the Rap 4 series
It's great! Hefty, huge, and those new Hori components feel a lot better than the Rap 4 series
What do you mean by "equivalent"? None of the Seimitsu really feel anything like a JLF.
This is all recalled from back when I was researching joysticks, correct me if I'm wrong.
The LS-40 is probably the closest in tension, but its short throw and actuation make it really precise.
LS-32 is slightly less precise and slightly more tense, but suffers from a "jumping" issue when you hit the gate hard.
LS-56 is the tightest and most precise Seimitsu stick available.
These are the three big ones anyway.
And yeah you can also try getting some joystick lube for your current stick.
I just meant what would fit/look most similar to the JLF. Pretty sure the LS-40 is what I'd want.
Also, I figured out that the issue with the stick was too much grease/lube around the actuator, so I wiped it off thoroughly and it's been better.
Looking at that battop makes me really want to find a solid enclosure for the IL EuroJoystick.
I don't think any of the existing designs are tall enough for it (other than the unappealing x-arcade).
I like that lever a lot butI feel like I'm going to need to find a way to build en entire arcade stick by hand just to fit it in something.
hikarutilmitt
Member
I really don't know if I'd say the LS-40 is around the same tension as the JLF. To me the JLF feels REALLY loose and the LS-40 is rather tight and you have to mean to actually hit it in a direction. I feel like an LS-58 is a bit closer than anything else.
That being said, the LS-40 is a dream.
I never said it was around the same tension, just that it was probably the closest lol. Nearly everything Seimitsu makes has more tension than a JLF, though I haven't tried the LS-58.
And yeah the LS-40 is great.
katsubento
Member
So..my new Panther has a squeaky JLF too. Seems like every new one is squeaky.
This seems to be insanely common. If it really bothers you, you can open it up pretty easily and clean the microswitches, but in my experience the squeak will always come back, and not always for the same direction.
My solution is just to play with headphones/the volume up loud.
katsubento
Member
I know how to clean it etc, it just seems like I never had the issue before this gen. Seems like all the sticks now do this much more.
minor effort
Banned
Yeah, Amazon did that to me last week, gave me a four-month window and then shipped it a few days later. I got mine this past Monday.
katsubento
Member
Fries are good.
sixteen-bit
Member
brook the best!
katsubento
Member
Looking to try the newer silent Sanwa JLF. It's so pricey though.
From experience I can tell you it's still not worth the asking price :T
hairypeckpeck
Member
3rd gen silent stick?
I installed one last week and I like it a lot. Super quiet and I honestly can't feel any of clicks from switches.
katsubento
Member
I just ordered a Hori Tekken 7 stick plus a silent Sanwa joystick and dampwning foam for my sanwa push buttons.
Trying to revitalize my fighting game collection as pretty much the time I have to game is when the family is asleep. I really think minimizing sound from the stick plus headphones will remedy that!
Does anyone know a good place to order custom art for that stick?
Trying to revitalize my fighting game collection as pretty much the time I have to game is when the family is asleep. I really think minimizing sound from the stick plus headphones will remedy that!
Does anyone know a good place to order custom art for that stick?
GinoFelino
Member
Want to know this too, even though I'm really enjoying the artwork on the black one
LOVE the new stock Hori buttons and stick btw
Really responsive
VolticArchangel
Member
Any idea when Razer will restock the SFV edition Pantheras or are they done?
Isn't the native TE2+ PCB the best when it comes to input lag? It's got lesser lag than even the DS4. IIRC the brooks PCB comes at third or fourth with the Dualshock 4 and the RZR Panthera preceding it, though not noticeable in links or high enough to destroy a matchup.
A great multiplatform PCB nonetheless and a worthy replacement of the AkiPS360.
Isn't the native TE2+ PCB the best when it comes to input lag? It's got lesser lag than even the DS4. IIRC the brooks PCB comes at third or fourth with the Dualshock 4 and the RZR Panthera preceding it, though not noticeable in links or high enough to destroy a matchup.
A great multiplatform PCB nonetheless and a worthy replacement of the AkiPS360.
Latency doesn't matter when that shit doesn't work. The TE2+ board is so faulty it might as well be criminal that they didn't just recall the whole lot of them.
It's still hard to feel when a switch activates despite the better switches. If you're somebody used to that type of feedback, the 3rd gen still isn't good enough.
Worth a shot to check Tek Innovations. If they don't have I'm sure you can find a template and then email the site owner about getting a print done.
Thanks! I checked that site the other day for plexi for my HRAP4 stick but ended up buying a new stick instead
Can't believe I just forgot that they print custom art and provide templates too (I think).
I haven't posted this anywhere yet, but may as well start with GAF.
Arcade stick I designed and 3D printed and then painted. (Paint job could be better)
Siemitsu LS56
Seimitsu screw in buttons
Arduino for the LED controller
LEDs with designed Mounts for screw in buttons
Lasercut Acrylic and Aluminium control panel
steel rods to provide support within the printed parts
Brooks UFB
Venom artwork
https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/745088/676f67d5ff/arcade-stick-case-3d-model-stl-dwg.jpg
https://img1.cgtrader.com/items/745088/eb6200f70f/arcade-stick-case-3d-model-stl-dwg.jpg
https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/745088/ef41fa6f53/arcade-stick-case-3d-model-stl-dwg.jpg
https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/745088/f3fdb368a1/arcade-stick-case-3d-model-stl-dwg.jpg
Arcade stick I designed and 3D printed and then painted. (Paint job could be better)
Siemitsu LS56
Seimitsu screw in buttons
Arduino for the LED controller
LEDs with designed Mounts for screw in buttons
Lasercut Acrylic and Aluminium control panel
steel rods to provide support within the printed parts
Brooks UFB
Venom artwork
https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/745088/676f67d5ff/arcade-stick-case-3d-model-stl-dwg.jpg
https://img1.cgtrader.com/items/745088/eb6200f70f/arcade-stick-case-3d-model-stl-dwg.jpg
https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/745088/ef41fa6f53/arcade-stick-case-3d-model-stl-dwg.jpg
https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/745088/f3fdb368a1/arcade-stick-case-3d-model-stl-dwg.jpg
hairypeckpeck
Member
I'll echo this statement. There is little to no feedback as to when you switch. The best way I can describe how the stick feels is if you take out the switches the of JLF and add a slightly more tense spring; that's basically what it sounds and feels like. All you really feel and hear is the shaft hitting the gate.
katsubento
Member
Anne said:
Thanks, Guess I'll save $50.
Very nice!
So you 3D printed the whole case? In smaller bits that you put together or just one big chunk?
Arcade sticks seem really good candidates for 3D printing to me.
Would you mind telling me how the process went? Any issues?